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well what i can tell you that this person can write about anything. She doing this according to the First Amendment which it is regarding to Freedom of Speech. She the one wrote and posted in the forum. The court already over and Bobby is rotting away in jail for 2 years. FBI still working on the case to bring more charges against him after he gets out of jail. This person was also a victim she going to write a book about him. She not going to mention any names in the book, she going to use fictional name and she not going to have media going after the victims if the name was fictional. I dont see why you had to do that taking away her right of speech which it regarding to First Amendment? Why are you victims of Bobby Berry are going against this person who is also a victim of Bobby Berry. She trying to help deaf people to be aware that people are out there taking advantage of them cuz of their disability. This doesnt make sense having a victim going against another victim. I thought those people are working together in this making Bobby in jail as in a team. You should be happy to hear he is in jail now. If I hear he was in jail, i was jumping for joy that he not going to be on the street and victimizing another deaf woman. so this person did the post herself with her name on it, now she got upset and left AllDeaf requesting to have the post removed because of those victims went against her who is a victim herself. Shame on you for trying take away her freedom of rights.
Actually, Kalista, there's nothing you can do about it.
AllDeaf is an open forum, which means anyone can read what you type in here, and none of the subject matter is copyrighted. If the woman wants to use the thread as a basis or foundation for her book, she can do so. Nothing you say or do will have any effect, even if you do sue. The courts will say that because the material came from an open forum, easily accessed by the public, she can use it for her book.
That is why, you have never seen me do anything like that... be totally OPEN like that - unlike some of you flamers, (no, not you, Kalista) who would bash on other people in an open forum where other people can read and USE it for their own personal gain.
Once you type it, it's open the floodgates, wide open territory for the taking, fodder for those who would pillage, loot and burn, and $$$ for those who has nothing to lose and plenty to gain.
I know. I've had people email me, IM me, PM me talking about those who would bash me big time...and bash those who bashed me. I mean it...Ive heard from people that I never knew before, people who knows those people, and they do really spill the beans...jayzuz. I could write a book on the steamy lives I know more than I want to know!
Kalista, my condolences to you. I know it is hard - hard to believe that someone could just come in and access the thread you created, and use it in a book that will be published. Im sure she knows what she's doing - using fictional names, places, and tweaking some events around to protect the victims.
However, Freedom Of Speech is just that. You can use it, demand it, pound on the fact that you have the right to have freedom of speech, but it will all come back later to take a huge chunk out of your ass (Again, not directed at you, Kalista).
Eh.
Have a good day...go ahead and bash on me, I might just go ahead and write the Great American Novel and make a mint. There are people out waiting to spill their secrets out to me.
Again, Kalista, Im sorry for your anguish.
AllDeaf is an open forum, which means anyone can read what you type in here, and none of the subject matter is copyrighted. If the woman wants to use the thread as a basis or foundation for her book, she can do so. Nothing you say or do will have any effect, even if you do sue. The courts will say that because the material came from an open forum, easily accessed by the public, she can use it for her book.
That is why, you have never seen me do anything like that... be totally OPEN like that - unlike some of you flamers, (no, not you, Kalista) who would bash on other people in an open forum where other people can read and USE it for their own personal gain.
Once you type it, it's open the floodgates, wide open territory for the taking, fodder for those who would pillage, loot and burn, and $$$ for those who has nothing to lose and plenty to gain.
I know. I've had people email me, IM me, PM me talking about those who would bash me big time...and bash those who bashed me. I mean it...Ive heard from people that I never knew before, people who knows those people, and they do really spill the beans...jayzuz. I could write a book on the steamy lives I know more than I want to know!
Kalista, my condolences to you. I know it is hard - hard to believe that someone could just come in and access the thread you created, and use it in a book that will be published. Im sure she knows what she's doing - using fictional names, places, and tweaking some events around to protect the victims.
However, Freedom Of Speech is just that. You can use it, demand it, pound on the fact that you have the right to have freedom of speech, but it will all come back later to take a huge chunk out of your ass (Again, not directed at you, Kalista).
Eh.
Have a good day...go ahead and bash on me, I might just go ahead and write the Great American Novel and make a mint. There are people out waiting to spill their secrets out to me.
Again, Kalista, Im sorry for your anguish.
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Kalista-
I am sorry to hear this- but maybe you should talk with that lady who gonna write a book, tell her to stop before she go too far, and if she don't then, I guess you will need to talk with mods.
Just be careful what you wish for- it goes same as for typing in what you or anyone are saying in this forum since its public forum and anyone can see what people are saying. I know you went through too much of hell, but I am happy that you have better life with new hubby, two sons who moved on, even the other family members. Next time if media contact you, you can say no comment or say not interested in talking with them. I hope that my advice help you.
I am sorry to hear this- but maybe you should talk with that lady who gonna write a book, tell her to stop before she go too far, and if she don't then, I guess you will need to talk with mods.
Just be careful what you wish for- it goes same as for typing in what you or anyone are saying in this forum since its public forum and anyone can see what people are saying. I know you went through too much of hell, but I am happy that you have better life with new hubby, two sons who moved on, even the other family members. Next time if media contact you, you can say no comment or say not interested in talking with them. I hope that my advice help you.
I agree, Tous, and I don't see what the big deal is.
In fact, I have a friend who is a college professor and she hands out some printed threads in her class for amusement. And yeah, you guessed it, that class is Abnormal Psychology.
In fact, I have a friend who is a college professor and she hands out some printed threads in her class for amusement. And yeah, you guessed it, that class is Abnormal Psychology.
I read Redwolf's post and I see that this victim is writing a book about Bobby Berry, I see nothing wrong with that, because those stories did happened to each victims, and it haunted them for the rest of their lives, seeing what she is doing is sharing the real life stories that happened to those women, it's just like watching true stories movies on Lifetime. What happened to them can happened to you. I think it's a good idea about writing a book on their experience, so that if someone else gone through the same thing themselves they would know what to do and how to protect themselves from con artists and scams. 
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Kal..sorry ....
Kal,
I am sorry you had to go through that. I know that I don't understand your pain but I can imagine that you wouldn't want to go thru nightmares again.
I can understand that you don't want wisdomlady to write a story about you, your children and your family. That is pretty understandable.
About wisdomlady is doing it without your permission, I think that is wrong. I am not how the system works about the lawsuit. But....
Maybe you should go on a research about invading your life and see if she is doing it wrong. Such as listening those people in AD may not be effective, maybe the lawyers are the people you may want to talk to. (sorry no offense you guys)
I would be in your shoes that I would be upset that my life is going to be public. I know it is wrong to do that. Hopefully wisdomlady will understand how you feel.
I wish you the best of luck!
Kal,
I am sorry you had to go through that. I know that I don't understand your pain but I can imagine that you wouldn't want to go thru nightmares again.
I can understand that you don't want wisdomlady to write a story about you, your children and your family. That is pretty understandable.
About wisdomlady is doing it without your permission, I think that is wrong. I am not how the system works about the lawsuit. But....
Maybe you should go on a research about invading your life and see if she is doing it wrong. Such as listening those people in AD may not be effective, maybe the lawyers are the people you may want to talk to. (sorry no offense you guys)
I would be in your shoes that I would be upset that my life is going to be public. I know it is wrong to do that. Hopefully wisdomlady will understand how you feel.
I wish you the best of luck!
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It is simple and easy to copyright anything you say in this forum going forward, and that can provide a legal impediment to anyone wanting to use the text of an actual thread without your permission.
Simply put a copyright notice in your signature - then anything you say will effectively be copyrighted. You do not have to pay money to any agency, and you do not have to register.
The nice thing about copyrights is you do not have to state you have a copyright for the laws to be in effect. Your intellectual property is assumed to be your property regardless - as long as you begin to assert your copyright as soon as you recognize the need for it.
Yes, this is a public forum for all to READ - and it could conceivably be used in a court of law, but by posting your original writings on the internet, you are not giving permission for others to use them in a published work.
Simply put a copyright notice in your signature - then anything you say will effectively be copyrighted. You do not have to pay money to any agency, and you do not have to register.
The nice thing about copyrights is you do not have to state you have a copyright for the laws to be in effect. Your intellectual property is assumed to be your property regardless - as long as you begin to assert your copyright as soon as you recognize the need for it.
Yes, this is a public forum for all to READ - and it could conceivably be used in a court of law, but by posting your original writings on the internet, you are not giving permission for others to use them in a published work.
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Kalista -- That person should discuss about this with you first before goin' too far. If, she writes a book about this - she should give you & the victims some royalties for addin' their pains without their consent. The victims are entitled to sue that person for violatin' their privacy. I am sorry to hear about all this, Kalista.
Yeah, I know you were doin' it against Berry and landed him in jail. This was all for the detectives to take care of him. All this were for the detectives via courts, not the publisher.
CyberRed said:
That person should discuss about this with you first before goin' too far. If, she writes a book about this - she should give you & the victims some royalties for addin' their pains without their consent. The victims are entitled to sue that person for violatin' their privacy. I am sorry to hear about all this, Kalista.
Yeah, I know you were doin' it against Berry and landed him in jail. This was all for the detectives to take care of him. All this were for the detectives via courts, not the publisher.
she not going to violate their privacy....she going to use the made up name by using different name. She not going to reveal real person's name. She doing that to protect the victim's name by not revealing their real name. I dont see why those victims get all upset if their name was a made up anyway?
^Angel^ said:That's great to hear!!, beside if they didn't want to tell their stories, why post it in here the first place knowing anyone could have copied it etc ?
Yes, it is a new lesson for everyone to learn, at first they never thought of it in first place.
Think twice!
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