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Asthma Inhalers To Be Taken Off Shelves - Health News Story - WJXT Jacksonville


JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- Primatene Mist, an over-the-counter medicine sold for the relief of bronchial asthma, has been on the market since the 1960s.
Those who use the medicine may want to stock up now or find another alternative, because come Jan. 1, the inhalers won't be on store shelves anymore.
The reason the Primatene Mist inhaler is being pulled has nothing to do with the medicine itself. Instead, it's because the makers can't defend what it's doing to the environment.
"This is kind of the last one out there that could cause problems with the environment," pharmacist Gary Roberts, owner of Roberts' South Bank Pharmacy, said of the asthma medicine.
Just $16 to $20 gets users 260 puffs, according to product's website. The problem is that the inhaler has chlorofluorocarbons that propel the medicine. CFCs also deplete the ozone and are being phased out.
"I don't think it probably should be used much longer. It's lived out its life," Roberts said.
While the environmental impact is what's forcing Primatene Mist off store shelves, Roberts said he never thought an over-the-counter inhaler was a good idea.
"I think most people seek help from their physician, and there are much better drugs out there," Roberts said. "This is probably a drug of convenience, I think, and it probably served a purpose many years ago."
As of now, there's no over-the-counter alternative available.
It's unclear whether the makers of Primatene Mist will come up with another product by the deadline. If they do, it will need Food and Drug Administration approval before it can hit store shelves.
"It takes a new drug application, and that takes a process," Roberts said. "And for a drug that's been around that long, I don't know if there's a cost benefit for that company."
In the meantime, Roberts suggests users talk with their doctor or pharmacist now about another option, because getting caught without an inhaler could be fatal.
"When the bronchioles make it hard to breathe, you need to relieve that because it can progress in a hurry," Roberts said.
Prescription inhalers are covered by most insurance policies, but for those who don't have insurance, the inhalers can cost anywhere from $40 to $50, more than twice the amount for Primatene Mist.


I thought inhailers that contains CFC (chlorofluorocarbon) already been banned and replaced with HFA (hydrofluoroalkane) in 2009. :hmm:
 
They were speaking for over the counter inhaler, which is going to phase out and there is no one that is willing to replace it. The RX version of Inhaler now has HFA so it is not an issue at this point.
The problem can be serious because there are people out there can't afford insurance, can't afford seeing doctor to get RX version of HFA, over the counter inhaler known as Pristine (SP) is alot cheaper for those who can't afford. Now that it is being phase out. Scary for them.

Asthma Inhalers To Be Taken Off Shelves - Health News Story - WJXT Jacksonville





I thought inhailers that contains CFC (chlorofluorocarbon) already been banned and replaced with HFA (hydrofluoroalkane) in 2009. :hmm:
 
They were speaking for over the counter inhaler, which is going to phase out and there is no one that is willing to replace it. The RX version of Inhaler now has HFA so it is not an issue at this point.
The problem can be serious because there are people out there can't afford insurance, can't afford seeing doctor to get RX version of HFA, over the counter inhaler known as Pristine (SP) is alot cheaper for those who can't afford. Now that it is being phase out. Scary for them.

Yeah, stupid legislators isn't thinking things through and as soon as people w/ no insurance starts dying. When the body counts starts piling, then the legislators will have an emergency session to reverse it. But not w/o the consequences of dealing with lawsuits thereafter.

Isn't there any lawsuit in the works to put a stop to this new law banning over the counter inhalers??

Yiz
 
I do not think they should even have it Over The Counter I have seen people that were not even Dxed with asthma buy them. Some people even abuse them to get this High feeling. It is an epinephrine inhaler and a stimulant.

I knew the Rx version of MDI were CFC free. I just assumed all of them were. :)
 
It is not stupidity the issue. The issue is purely Liablity. It is not cheap, and most of the time the word "Liablity" is what scares them away.

Just think this way, there are some poor people out there that would do anyting to sue to get money. If new product that is free of CFL, and cause health issue, there will be lawsuits lined up and bankrupt the makers.

have you notice less and less people want to study to become baby doctor, have you wondering why? Its all simple, its liablity. More and more doctors are moving away from practice to avoid any lawsuits. Here is perfect example, now that Doctors wants to work at prison, know why? It is state funded meaning that if dr make mistake, states is the one who takes the hit on lawsuit from prisoner not doctors.

Again, it is all about liablity.

Yeah, stupid legislators isn't thinking things through and as soon as people w/ no insurance starts dying. When the body counts starts piling, then the legislators will have an emergency session to reverse it. But not w/o the consequences of dealing with lawsuits thereafter.

Isn't there any lawsuit in the works to put a stop to this new law banning over the counter inhalers??

Yiz
 
Yeah, RX version is all taken care. I know because I am the one who use them.

I do not think they should even have it Over The Counter I have seen people that were not even Dxed with asthma buy them. Some people even abuse them to get this High feeling. It is an epinephrine inhaler and a stimulant.

I knew the Rx version of MDI were CFC free. I just assumed all of them were. :)
 
Yeah, RX version is all taken care. I know because I am the one who use them.

So have you noticed the difference in the HFA MDI when they changed it? I was reading online some say it was not as effective as the CFC.

I do not use inhalers. I am just curious.
 
To be honest, I prefer older version better. I noticed that my body responded with CFC better than HFA but still works anyway.

At least there is Advair which is a champ! Cheap? Nope :(

So have you noticed the difference in the HFA MDI when they changed it? I was reading online some say it was not as effective as the CFC.

I do not use inhalers. I am just curious.
 
Yeah, stupid legislators isn't thinking things through and as soon as people w/ no insurance starts dying. When the body counts starts piling, then the legislators will have an emergency session to reverse it. But not w/o the consequences of dealing with lawsuits thereafter.

Isn't there any lawsuit in the works to put a stop to this new law banning over the counter inhalers??

Yiz

What the hell are you talking about? You are preaching Liberal, Obamacare values, here.:laugh2:
 
So have you noticed the difference in the HFA MDI when they changed it? I was reading online some say it was not as effective as the CFC.

I do not use inhalers. I am just curious.

My neice used an inhaler both before and after. There have been no changes in the effectiveness of the one she uses now as compared to before the ban.
 
Not all of the patient will see difference. To some yes, to others no. But for me, yes I do see difference just little less effective than newer one.

My neice used an inhaler both before and after. There have been no changes in the effectiveness of the one she uses now as compared to before the ban.
 
Not all of the patient will see difference. To some yes, to others no. But for me, yes I do see difference just little less effective than newer one.

You are right. Depends on the patient and the medication.
 
So have you noticed the difference in the HFA MDI when they changed it? I was reading online some say it was not as effective as the CFC.

I do not use inhalers. I am just curious.

I have BB- A LOT. My albuterol MDI which I've taken my whole life basically; I noticed a significat difference in effectiveness. Feels like not the right dose sometimes or not able to get deep into my airway and I often feel I use it more by puffing more times too :(
 
I have BB- A LOT. My albuterol MDI which I've taken my whole life basically; I noticed a significat difference in effectiveness. Feels like not the right dose sometimes or not able to get deep into my airway and I often feel I use it more by puffing more times too :(

Do you use a nebulator to supplement?
 
Yeah, Guess it varies. :)

Perhaps they will find something newer and better to help people with respiratory diseases.
 
I do not think they should even have it Over The Counter I have seen people that were not even Dxed with asthma buy them. Some people even abuse them to get this High feeling. It is an epinephrine inhaler and a stimulant.

I knew the Rx version of MDI were CFC free. I just assumed all of them were. :)

Well, ok. I can see where you're coming from and didn't realize what sort of abuse can be prevalent on the use of inhalers.

So how about this, instead of an outright ban, why not sell as a semi-controlled environment, like behind the counter sales?

A while back our state banned over the counter sales of Amphetamine because it's part of the Methamphetamine ingredients. Stores now keep them behind the counter and log books are also kept. For every sale, they record the buyer's driver's licenses.

The Police Officers makes copies of the logs and compare the logs from other stores as a way to track who's buy what, where and how many in quantities.

Then they pursue an investigation to determine whether or not Methamphetamine is being made by that individual buying Amphetamine.

The same can be done for inhalers and a note from their doctor on file while the sales of inhalers can still be sold as retail (cheaply) rather than pharmaceutical.

I just think this is coming from a Pharmaceutical influence that wants to control the sales of inhalers and profit from it by a large margin than the margins coming from retail. Control of inhaler sales reaps more money than retail, IMO.

Yiz
 
Well, ok. I can see where you're coming from and didn't realize what sort of abuse can be prevalent on the use of inhalers.

So how about this, instead of an outright ban, why not sell as a semi-controlled environment, like behind the counter sales?

A while back our state banned over the counter sales of Amphetamine because it's part of the Methamphetamine ingredients. Stores now keep them behind the counter and log books are also kept. For every sale, they record the buyer's driver's licenses.

The Police Officers makes copies of the logs and compare the logs from other stores as a way to track who's buy what, where and how many in quantities.

Then they pursue an investigation to determine whether or not Methamphetamine is being made by that individual buying Amphetamine.

The same can be done for inhalers and a note from their doctor on file while the sales of inhalers can still be sold as retail (cheaply) rather than pharmaceutical.

I just think this is coming from a Pharmaceutical influence that wants to control the sales of inhalers and profit from it by a large margin than the margins coming from retail. Control of inhaler sales reaps more money than retail, IMO.

Yiz

Uhhh...it has never been legal to sell amphetamines over the counter. What you are referring to is ephedrine...a decongestant like Sudafed.

If they can get a note from their doctor to purchase an OTC, they can get a Rx to purchase a prescription med.
 
Ohhhhh, I just remembered something, something that I've put in the back of my mind and forgot about.

I'm told that some people who are prone to asthma attacks can feel better after having had a cup of coffee or two. What's in the coffee that helps them??

Yiz
 
Uhhh...it has never been legal to sell amphetamines over the counter. What you are referring to is ephedrine...a decongestant like Sudafed.

If they can get a note from their doctor to purchase an OTC, they can get a Rx to purchase a prescription med.

Sorry, I stand corrected, it's Ephedrine. Sorry, I got the two confused. I never use that stuff myself anyway, coffee works for me. :giggle:

Yiz
 
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