Assisted Suicide

Toonces said:
It is pretty scary when the doctors are allowed to make decisions to "euthanatize" sick patients without checking to see if there are really and truly no hope of recovery for them... it reminds me of some news not too long ago about doctors in Holland who admitted they were quietly putting a number of terminally ill newborn babies to death. Here's the link: Pope's plea as doctors admit killing sick babies

There's already some cases in USA where some impatient doctors pressure the parents to let their small sick children die (and as a matter of fact the doctors even take them to court when the parents refuse) and the parents are fighting and saying "No, not yet! Not while there's still a chance!"

Something like that. So it's not a good idea to let the doctors have too much authority over life and death. 0_o

I agree. It's never a good idea to let doctors have too much authority. But, I'm coming at this from the other direction. I've seen (and, actually been apart of) situations where doctors have been too agressive in trying to save the life of someone. I'm gonna keep my personal involvement in this to myself, but lets just say, I am passionate about a person's right to die with dignity.

Enough said.
 
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If Doctors said I got cancer or whatever...
I will not take chemo or allow them to put all those tubes
and things on me...

If they want to remove breasts or remove tumors
or repair my hearts and stuff, then I will let them,
but if doctors can't do anything else for me.

THEN

I will go ahead and die naturally. No Assist Suicide.

I will go ahead and enjoy life and still go on vacation and take
many aspirin and stuff like that.

I ain't gonna sit at home and lay in bed and wait to die.
 
I personally believe suicide is wrong no matter if the person is on the life support machine or whatsoever, it should be up to God when the time comes for this person to die, it not up to the doctors, court, judge or their loves ones....

I rather to die when my time comes, not to cut my life short just cause I have some kind of illness or on any type of machines that is keeping myself alive....

It's ok if others rather to do it the other way around, but to me its wrong period!

I have nothing more to say on this thread and rather not to debate either....;)
 
The only instance where I would request the plug be pulled is if I were in extreme and unable-to-alleviate pain, and that there was nothing at all that could medically be done for me.

Then, I'd leave it for the doctors to determine. :)
 
i do believe that the terminally ill persons who have exhausted all avenues possible can be euthanasized as long as all the family members are clear on this -- same applies to our beloved furbabies -- when we find out our furbabies are so sick we actually put them down with dignity -- i think us humans should be given the same basic right to be able to die with dignity cuz i sure as hell would rather have my dignity intact at the time of my death
 
Fly Free said:
i do believe that the terminally ill persons who have exhausted all avenues possible can be euthanasized as long as all the family members are clear on this -- same applies to our beloved furbabies -- when we find out our furbabies are so sick we actually put them down with dignity -- i think us humans should be given the same basic right to be able to die with dignity cuz i sure as hell would rather have my dignity intact at the time of my death
:gpost:
 
Miss*Pinocchio said:
If Doctors said I got cancer or whatever...
I will not take chemo or allow them to put all those tubes
and things on me...

If they want to remove breasts or remove tumors
or repair my hearts and stuff, then I will let them,
but if doctors can't do anything else for me.

THEN

I will go ahead and die naturally. No Assist Suicide.

I will go ahead and enjoy life and still go on vacation and take
many aspirin and stuff like that.

I ain't gonna sit at home and lay in bed and wait to die.


Why you think Chemo is not good ?
 
Banjo said:
Personally, I believe suicide is wrong and an awful thing to do because you don't just hurt yourself, you also hurt the surrounding loved ones.

Now, about assisting a person's suicide... I find the concept to be highly disturbing. One person could take advantage of the term when the person actully had committed murder rather than helping the person die.

Think about it, it's like a loophole that can be taken advantage of. If a man murders his wife in the bed, he may try to take advantage of that term, assisted suicide as in saying he helped his wife kill herself. There's just too much to discuss on the matter.

Good point, Banjo!


Assisted Suicide is legal in Germany but the doctors are only one who can do that not spouses.

I support that the doctor should do with assisted suicide, not relatives. I would demand my family to agree to get doctor do it for me because I dont want to suffer after what I saw everything what my mother-in-law suffer cancer.... Terrible..... Horrible.... She screamed and screamed when the cancer pain come. You would feel pain when you see one of your relatives sufer like this. No Way....
 
Liebling:-))) said:
Good point, Banjo!


Assisted Suicide is legal in Germany but the doctors are only one who can do that not spouses.

I support that the doctor should do with assisted suicide, not relatives. I would demand my family to agree to get doctor do it for me because I dont want to suffer after what I saw everything what my mother-in-law suffer cancer.... Terrible..... Horrible.... She screamed and screamed when the cancer pain come. You would feel pain when you see one of your relatives sufer like this. No Way....


This is what Oregon is trying to do. Have DOCTORS do it. It didnt say anything about spouses or other relatives.

Im not to say that doctors are to have that much authority but it is everyone's responsiblity to have their wishes written down in their wills or medical forms that they wish to have assisted suicide if ever comes to that point.
 
Well, if the doctor said that I have cancer then I would of take chemo therapy STRAIGHT WAY to fight to remain my life. I know that chemo therapy cure up to 80% only but it´s worth to save the life. I remember what I saw my mother-in-law suffer thru chemo therapy after remove cancer from her left breast. It works on her well then 5 years later after that that she got tumor in her brain and was told that chemo would not help her because of 20% chance to save her risk life.

Get operation but it´s only 20% chance to be alive.. .Perhap die on operation table or palazyed??? Without operation up to one year remain alive. All what I saw her suffer REAL pain and scream and scream..... then got pain killer injection like drug.... again again..... so it end her life peaceful within 2 month later after that.

I know what it alike when I saw her....

I would discuss with my children over assisted suicide and get them to respect my wish to let doctor to put me die peaceful only if they cant do anything to save my life. Why should I suffer all the months or years and living in the machine which I know it is incurable ill.

I´m glad that German support it as legal.
 
Meg said:
This is what Oregon is trying to do. Have DOCTORS do it. It didnt say anything about spouses or other relatives.

Im not to say that doctors are to have that much authority but it is everyone's responsiblity to have their wishes written down in their wills or medical forms that they wish to have assisted suicide if ever comes to that point.


Yes, it´s correct!

I support Assisted Suicide.
 
I agree with Banjo, Toonces and ^Angel^


I understand that there are people out there who are terminally ill and in pains and would want to commit suicide, But to me suicide is always the meaning of murder, ending life does not make it better, it makes it worst even the love ones that are suffering in their hearts.


For assisting suicide do you think a person who is mental disorder can make a judgment? Deciding death is better than life? I don't believe a person who is mental disorder would be in a stable postion to rethink about this, because a person like that would only feel the pains that he/she is suffering instead of seeing the whole picture of ending her/his life when it's not his/her time to die. I believe that sometimes miracle do happen, something comes up and can be treated whatever issues they might have. But, suicide is not the answer for medical treatment, It would just make it worst everyone will know that person end their life without a fight, It's like giving up hope, their dreams, hurting their love ones, and people around them. :(
 
Oceanbreeze said:
Don't mind her. She doesn't have a clue.

Oh I have to agree with you..

cuz my son is recovery with brain tumor he had gone thru Surgery, Radiation, and Chemo!

Wendy
 
Miss*Pinocchio said:
If Doctors said I got cancer or whatever...
I will not take chemo or allow them to put all those tubes
and things on me...

If they want to remove breasts or remove tumors
or repair my hearts and stuff, then I will let them,
but if doctors can't do anything else for me.

THEN

I will go ahead and die naturally. No Assist Suicide.

I will go ahead and enjoy life and still go on vacation and take
many aspirin and stuff like that.

I ain't gonna sit at home and lay in bed and wait to die.


Yes, That is the same way with my son's grandma she passed away couple years ago when I think Markus was 3 years old or so, She had cancer and she did not want to go through chemo, radiation and etc. She said cancer might meant it for her so if that's her time to die, let it be. I was surprised she did not fight. Was very sad to see her passed on too. She was one remarkable woman. :(
 
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