Are Most Deaf In the USA On SSI? I don't think that is true.

Just a FYI -
I tried this bitching on a hearing guy who was an exec of a company. We were in a bar, and he got all pissed off, dragged me across the bar, took a napkin and wrote on it.

This is what he said:

If you wanted a job in higher ups in management, and they dont give you a job - go through the EEOC and sue for the job itself. Agree on a 3 month probation, and if they like you, they will keep you! After all, higher up management is mostly emails these days! It's business not personal. Don't give me shit about being deaf and all.

I STFU after that. So, I suggest you guys to do the same.
 
I can see where these executive stand. They aren't the ones that doing hiring. It is hiring people that does the dirty work, and executives may not be aware of it. I wouldn't point any of my fingers to executives, they do not have time for hiring people and blaming games.

posts from hell said:
Just a FYI -
I tried this bitching on a hearing guy who was an exec of a company. We were in a bar, and he got all pissed off, dragged me across the bar, took a napkin and wrote on it.

This is what he said:

If you wanted a job in higher ups in management, and they dont give you a job - go through the EEOC and sue for the job itself. Agree on a 3 month probation, and if they like you, they will keep you! After all, higher up management is mostly emails these days! It's business not personal. Don't give me shit about being deaf and all.

I STFU after that. So, I suggest you guys to do the same.
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diehardbiker said:
NTID has about 1,500 Deaf students, so doing algebra, meaning there is only 15,000 Rochesterians livng in Rochester area, isn't that number way too low?

add note: I just re-calculate, interesting, 1,500 Deaf students at NTID divided by 768,000 residents in Monroe County, NY which gives .19% That's one-fifth percent Where is 9.81% Deafies are from?

So pointing at NTID is moot point!

I am in Rochester and know around Rochester, seen enough, and nope, it is not true that most Deaf graduates head back home, I have seen them moving out of Rochester only to move back in here.
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Well you have NTID, Buffalo school for the deaf and you have RSD. Anyone of legal age is counted for... I am not saying that you are wrong or right, but I am saying that the percentage is a bit crooked. Also, many teenagers are on SSI while they are in highschool due to parents. My mom had me on SSI when I was little and once you have it you cannot lose it unless you have a job or your parents make more than enough alone. My mom and Dad never married so according to the law she never made enough alone to have me taken off of it. Once I reached 18 years old, I signed off of it before I went to college.

I was on it since 4 years old. I got off of it at 18.. So do not forget to count them as well.
 
posts from hell said:
I disagree with Obamacare. It wont solve the cycle. :(

Think about it - you make minimum wage - and you *have* to pay for insurance, or get fined. You may still can't afford it, but who cares, you're gonna get fined.
The people who are really happy is the doctors who benefit from this.
The European approach is much better - The law is the government is required to provide insurance to you instead of you are required to get your own insurance.
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What?? The Dr. do not benefit from the Obamacare. Where have you been? Insurance companies are pissed. They don't want the Obamacare plan because they will make less. If they make less, then Dr. will make less; however, in a sense they may make more, but not benefit from it. With everyone able to afford health care then there will be more patients; therefore, dr in some way will make more, but they have to work more as well. They will be followed very closely on how they manage. They have to docoment more than they use to. This is a whole lot more work for them now. They are not happy about it either, but they know the system has got to change. This has pissed insurance companies off even more. They do not want the Government to watch how they do things. This will prevent the insurance companies from being bad boys.

The system we have now is awful. People in the United States have a higher chance at dying at 60 or 70 than people in other countries. This is bad not good. People in other countries live pass those ages. Because of our stupid health care plan right now we die at those ages. They deny as they see fit, but in the new Obamacare plan they are not allowed to do that.

They have to care for them no matter what..... I got a question for ya. Which would you perfer? to be eligible for full coverage in health care at the age of 65 or at 40?

Which do you perfer? to spend billions more every year for what is owed on our yearly dues for our health care plan now? Or save a billion in the obamacare plan?
 
That is true that my teachers in high school did tell us deafies about SSI and we can apply for it.

I did think about it, but I have never tried, and I always prefer working instead of SSI!
 
Yup, thats true

even worse, every year health insurance cost increase more than 10% (Sometimes even 20%), while overall cost of living increase averaged only 3%, been like that since 1970's this shows clearly abusive practice after Nixon deregulate the Health insurance regulations.

Topgun said:
What?? The Dr. do not benefit from the Obamacare. Where have you been? Insurance companies are pissed. They don't want the Obamacare plan because they will make less. If they make less, then Dr. will make less; however, in a sense they may make more, but not benefit from it. With everyone able to afford health care then there will be more patients; therefore, dr in some way will make more, but they have to work more as well. They will be followed very closely on how they manage. They have to docoment more than they use to. This is a whole lot more work for them now. They are not happy about it either, but they know the system has got to change. This has pissed insurance companies off even more. They do not want the Government to watch how they do things. This will prevent the insurance companies from being bad boys.

The system we have now is awful. People in the United States have a higher chance at dying at 60 or 70 than people in other countries. This is bad not good. People in other countries live pass those ages. Because of our stupid health care plan right now we die at those ages. They deny as they see fit, but in the new Obamacare plan they are not allowed to do that.

They have to care for them no matter what..... I got a question for ya. Which would you perfer? to be eligible for full coverage in health care at the age of 65 or at 40?

Which do you perfer? to spend billions more every year for what is owed on our yearly dues for our health care plan now? Or save a billion in the obamacare plan?
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You know how dumb our government are....they are WASTING tax money on SSI with too many deaf people not working, means more tax wasted on that. If government encouraged deaf people to go work by providing better services for them to get employment, like free interpreting for example. It would save a lot on the taxpayers cost to SSI on millions of the deaf population. They would get MORE tax revenue from deaf people actually working paycheck to paycheck. I think government paying for interpreting is cheaper than paying deaf people SSI or whatever.
 
sequoias said:
You know how dumb our government are....they are WASTING tax money on SSI with too many deaf people not working, means more tax wasted on that. If government encouraged deaf people to go work by providing better services for them to get employment, like free interpreting for example. It would save a lot on the taxpayers cost to SSI on millions of the deaf population. They would get MORE tax revenue from deaf people actually working paycheck to paycheck. I think government paying for interpreting is cheaper than paying deaf people SSI or whatever.
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Lol, when has the government EVER been efficient in spending money?
 
Topgun said:
What?? The Dr. do not benefit from the Obamacare. Where have you been? Insurance companies are pissed. They don't want the Obamacare plan because they will make less. If they make less, then Dr. will make less; however, in a sense they may make more, but not benefit from it. With everyone able to afford health care then there will be more patients; therefore, dr in some way will make more, but they have to work more as well. They will be followed very closely on how they manage. They have to docoment more than they use to. This is a whole lot more work for them now. They are not happy about it either, but they know the system has got to change. This has pissed insurance companies off even more. They do not want the Government to watch how they do things. This will prevent the insurance companies from being bad boys.

The system we have now is awful. People in the United States have a higher chance at dying at 60 or 70 than people in other countries. This is bad not good. People in other countries live pass those ages. Because of our stupid health care plan right now we die at those ages. They deny as they see fit, but in the new Obamacare plan they are not allowed to do that.

They have to care for them no matter what..... I got a question for ya. Which would you perfer? to be eligible for full coverage in health care at the age of 65 or at 40?

Which do you perfer? to spend billions more every year for what is owed on our yearly dues for our health care plan now? Or save a billion in the obamacare plan?
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You think I don't know that our system in place currently is awful? Look at my thread titled "Are you sick of the USA."

What I want is: The law to simply say this - The government is required to give you insurance, not the other way around.
 
posts from hell said:
You think I don't know that our system in place currently is awful? Look at my thread titled "Are you sick of the USA."

What I want is: The law to simply say this - The government is required to give you insurance, not the other way around.
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Well the Obamacare plan nearly provides that. You cannot be denied even if you cannot afford it.

Get it?
 
Topgun said:
Well the Obamacare plan nearly provides that. You cannot be denied even if you cannot afford it.

Get it?
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If I don't get it, I get fined.
Get it?

You see - I do not want negative reinforcements in this country. That's what my beef is about.
Take a look at the prisons in Norway, please. =D
 
No that is not what they mean, what they mean is IF you were offered a free health coverage and you decline that, you get fine, also if you REALLY can afford it, like your earning 500,000 a year and won't pay for health care, you get fine. Obamacare is trying to expand offer free health coverage to middle class. It is NO excuse for declining free health care.

posts from hell said:
If I don't get it, I get fined.
Get it?

You see - I do not want negative reinforcements in this country. That's what my beef is about.
Take a look at the prisons in Norway, please. =D
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why make it so complicated?

Make it automatic, everyone is covered no matter what. *REGARDLESS of income*
Kind of like an unseen median. You go to the doctors, they bill the government. You have nothing to worry about.
 
I know some people refused to accept free health care, this is not an excuse because a person who lacks health care gets sick, gives to other innocent people resulting sick, why pay multiple patients rather treat less patients to reduce the spread. Those people that refused should pay fine for this. Also, other issue is abortation, and immigrants, these should not take advantage of government monies.

The change in health reform is really badly needed, and people are just plain afraid of the changes and unknown. We all must accept the changes and move on, can't stay the old way and suffer needless.

posts from hell said:
why make it so complicated?

Make it automatic, everyone is covered no matter what. *REGARDLESS of income*
Kind of like an unseen median. You go to the doctors, they bill the government. You have nothing to worry about.
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