Arctic sea ice extent nearly the same as it was back in 2003

it appears that for the first time since 2001, Arctic Sea ice will hit the “normal” line as defined by the National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSIDC) for this time of year.
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Why, we're up 20 ppm more than 10 years ago and yet the sea ice extent is back at the normal extent. What was Al saying about ice disappearing? Yoohoo, Al baby. Get your face out here, please.
 
Jiro said:
you're still on that? wow you surely do last a lot longer than Energizer bunny :eek3:

btw - since mankind? I don't think the cavemen knew the concept of CO2 (assuming you believe in evolution)
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:laugh2: I agree!
 
Noticed JAXA here, too. JAXA agrees that Arctic sea ice extent matches that of 2003. Continues to gain areal extent as we speak. Al Gore was wrong. Arctic ice is NOT shrinking but gaining. JAXA in agreement, hmmm.

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Graph of Arctic sea ice extent from 2003 to 2010.
IJIS Web Site
 
kokonut said:
Noticed JAXA here, too. JAXA agrees that Arctic sea ice extent matches that of 2003. Continues to gain areal extent as we speak. Al Gore was wrong. Arctic ice is NOT shrinking but gaining. JAXA in agreement, hmmm.

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Graph of Arctic sea ice extent from 2003 to 2010.
IJIS Web Site
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Eh? From looking at the chart, 2010 is not even close to matching 2003, and there is no guarantee it will, either. Graphs are funny things, aren't they? They do not tend to match predictions. JAXA is saying that ice is disappearing faster than predicted. Something is screwy here.
 
Beowulf said:
Eh? From looking at the chart, 2010 is not even close to matching 2003, and there is no guarantee it will, either. Graphs are funny things, aren't they? They do not tend to match predictions. JAXA is saying that ice is disappearing faster than predicted. Something is screwy here.
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Look again. Sea ice extent are the same today as it was back in 2003.

Screwy? That'd be Al Gore.
 
Jiro said:
you're still on that? wow you surely do last a lot longer than Energizer bunny :eek3:

btw - since mankind? I don't think the cavemen knew the concept of CO2 (assuming you believe in evolution)
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Agreed. :lol:
 
kokonut said:
Look again. Sea ice extent are the same today as it was back in 2003.

Screwy? That'd be Al Gore.
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Meaning no offense, but it looks like 2010 is about to dip well before it hits the 2003 mark. I could be wrong, though. It will be interesting to see what happens in the coming months.
 
2010 is the red line, 2003 is the blue line, today both showed the same sea ice extent. the 2010 line has a slight uptick over the last week or so.
 
kokonut said:
2010 is the red line, 2003 is the blue line, today both showed the same sea ice extent. the 2010 line has a slight uptick over the last week or so.
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Right. But it looks like it still has quite a ways to go before it reaches the 2003 mark. All other lines dip about now, and who is to say that 2010 won't, either?
 
What are you looking at? Look at the red circle, both the 2003 and 2010 sea ice extent are the same TODAY!

The sea ice extent for 2003 peaked at 15,000,000 km^2 while the 2010 is currently at 14,400,000 km^2. Currently, today's sea ice extent is within 96% of the size of the peak sea ice extent in 2003. We're talking a mere 600,000 km^2 difference right now. Hardly a "quite a ways to go."
 
Beowulf said:
Right. But it looks like it still has quite a ways to go before it reaches the 2003 mark. All other lines dip about now, and who is to say that 2010 won't, either?
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Yup, I know about statistic is just trends so it could getting worse in anytime, also we are using less CO2 today than in last 2 years ago due economic downturn.
 
kokonut said:
What are you looking at? Look at the red circle, both the 2003 and 2010 sea ice extent are the same TODAY!

The sea ice extent for 2003 peaked at 15,000,000 km^2 while the 2010 is currently at 14,400,000 km^2. Currently, today's sea ice extent is within 96% of the size of the peak sea ice extent in 2003. We're talking a mere 600,000 km^2 difference right now. Hardly a "quite a ways to go."
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Are we looking at the same thing??? I see the blue line well above the red line. Maybe I am misinterpreting this, I dunno. :aw:
 
The blue line reached it's sea ice extent at 15,000,000 km^2.

The red line is currently at 14,400,000 km^2, only 96% of the size of 2003 peak sea ice extent. Each year since 2007 the sea ice extent continued to "recover." But this is all part of the natural variability on the ebb and flow of sea ice extent over the years. Has nothing to do with CO2.
 
Foxrac said:
Yup, I know about statistic is just trends so it could getting worse in anytime, also we are using less CO2 today than in last 2 years ago due economic downturn.
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"using less CO2"...? What does that supposed to mean?
 
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