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That okay RainGurl....

You did made an clear.. No problem..
 
RainGurl said:
I want to clear this so called "Heath made an apology through RainGurl"...
he never contacted me, I don't know his MSN, AIM or anythiing. This was strictly on my own making an apology. Until today I didn't even KNOW he was banned. I wanted to apologize to take the load off my own conscience. what I did was wrong. No matter how you sit and debate it, chew it, rationalize it, make excuses for it when you (or I) go and judge him we are showing ourselves as no better than the way he has treated others. Behaviour is a learned way of life. He has learned it, he has lived it, he isn't going to change all of a sudden. It takes years to change a behaviour that has been set.

Please I would appreicate if you understood that this was not Heath in any way this is just me feeling awful about what I had done. I would never in a million years want to be treated in such a horrid way. I would also hope that if I was that way somehow, someway I would be around people who would have enough patience, endurance, acceptance and discipline to help me change and find a more humane way to be.

This is all I have to say, I am not going to pick this topic up again. I just wanted to make it clear.

Love ya all, hugs. RG
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Heath is the one who should apologize us.
 
Hey, this is RainGurl's topic; please leave it at that.
 
Oceanbreeze said:
Likewise. We shouldn't be expected to just sit back and take his crap.
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Exactly—a troll is defined by the community in which he is interacting. Spouting Neo-Nazi rhetoric is perfectly acceptable behavior on a White Supremacist message board, and is actively encouraged. Making the exact same post on a message board devoted to Jewish issues constitutes inflammatory trolling. Using that reasoning, referring to homosexuals as dogs on a message board which has such a sizeable gay population that it has a separate sub-forum devoted entirely to gay issues also constitutes inflammatory trolling. Likewise, almost every deaf woman I have ever known has been victimized at some time by a predatory, psychologically inferior male. Therefore, making chauvinistic and/or disparaging remarks about women on a deaf message board clearly constitutes a deliberate attempt to inflict psychological distress. If Heath were to espouse these viewpoints in any workplace in the United States, he would be terminated immediately out of fear of litigation. So why is this behavior tolerated here? All of these mentally unbalanced people who have been victimizing this message board for the past year or two share one thing in common: they have all been ridiculed and/or banned from other message boards because of their atrocious English skills and their attention-seeking behavior. So they turn to AllDeaf in the belief that they will be accepted solely because they are deaf. But the reality of the matter is that they are victimizing innocent people. When Heath was making a pathetic attempt to justify the Holocaust a few months ago, one of our more respected members PM’ed me in the middle of the conversation and told me that she was feeling physically ill and had to go outside and get some air. No sanctions were placed against him for this behavior. Alex just PM’ed him and told him to knock it off. The point is that this message board is unique, and shouldn’t serve as a dumping ground for the Internet’s rejects. Freedom of speech does not justify deliberately inflicting psychological distress for the sake of stroking a narcissistic ego.
 
Levonian said:
Exactly—a troll is defined by the community in which he is interacting. Spouting Neo-Nazi rhetoric is perfectly acceptable behavior on a White Supremacist message board, and is actively encouraged. Making the exact same post on a message board devoted to Jewish issues constitutes inflammatory trolling. Using that reasoning, referring to homosexuals as dogs on a message board which has such a sizeable gay population that it has a separate sub-forum devoted entirely to gay issues also constitutes inflammatory trolling. Likewise, almost every deaf woman I have ever known has been victimized at some time by a predatory, psychologically inferior male. Therefore, making chauvinistic and/or disparaging remarks about women on a deaf message board clearly constitutes a deliberate attempt to inflict psychological distress. If Heath were to espouse these viewpoints in any workplace in the United States, he would be terminated immediately out of fear of litigation. So why is this behavior tolerated here? All of these mentally unbalanced people who have been victimizing this message board for the past year or two share one thing in common: they have all been ridiculed and/or banned from other message boards because of their atrocious English skills and their attention-seeking behavior. So they turn to AllDeaf in the belief that they will be accepted solely because they are deaf. But the reality of the matter is that they are victimizing innocent people. When Heath was making a pathetic attempt to justify the Holocaust a few months ago, one of our more respected members PM’ed me in the middle of the conversation and told me that she was feeling physically ill and had to go outside and get some air. No sanctions were placed against him for this behavior. Alex just PM’ed him and told him to knock it off. The point is that this message board is unique, and shouldn’t serve as a dumping ground for the Internet’s rejects. Freedom of speech does not justify deliberately inflicting psychological distress for the sake of stroking a narcissistic ego.
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Raingirl, What you did is good thing. It is show the true color of you. Keep it up girl. Dont let anything get in your way. :hug:
 
RainGurl said:
I want to clear this so called "Heath made an apology through RainGurl"...
he never contacted me, I don't know his MSN, AIM or anythiing. This was strictly on my own making an apology. Until today I didn't even KNOW he was banned. I wanted to apologize to take the load off my own conscience. what I did was wrong. No matter how you sit and debate it, chew it, rationalize it, make excuses for it when you (or I) go and judge him we are showing ourselves as no better than the way he has treated others. Behaviour is a learned way of life. He has learned it, he has lived it, he isn't going to change all of a sudden. It takes years to change a behaviour that has been set.

Please I would appreicate if you understood that this was not Heath in any way this is just me feeling awful about what I had done. I would never in a million years want to be treated in such a horrid way. I would also hope that if I was that way somehow, someway I would be around people who would have enough patience, endurance, acceptance and discipline to help me change and find a more humane way to be.

This is all I have to say, I am not going to pick this topic up again. I just wanted to make it clear.

Love ya all, hugs. RG
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:wave: RainGurl --

I am very impressed ! That's the mature way to say your apology. It will prevent the " karma " comin' in your way. ;)

I am on your side. Things will look good in the future when it comes in your way - you did the right thing, girl ! :hug:
 
CyberRed said:
You will regret some day if somethin' happens to you. Karma will come around in your life.
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I am a strong believer in Karma too - so that is why I am very careful with what I have to say or think about others.....do to others what you want them to do you!

By the way, RG, I admire your maturity and wisdom! Way to go! I have held back my tongue thousands of times here on AD ...I simply ignore them because the world is full of vastly different people - they have their own beliefs but it is not my job to go around changing everyone's beliefs if I dont like it or feel offensive. Let karma catch up with these who are offensive to our beliefs, etc! ;)
 
Levonian said:
Exactly—a troll is defined by the community in which he is interacting. Spouting Neo-Nazi rhetoric is perfectly acceptable behavior on a White Supremacist message board, and is actively encouraged. Making the exact same post on a message board devoted to Jewish issues constitutes inflammatory trolling. Using that reasoning, referring to homosexuals as dogs on a message board which has such a sizeable gay population that it has a separate sub-forum devoted entirely to gay issues also constitutes inflammatory trolling. Likewise, almost every deaf woman I have ever known has been victimized at some time by a predatory, psychologically inferior male. Therefore, making chauvinistic and/or disparaging remarks about women on a deaf message board clearly constitutes a deliberate attempt to inflict psychological distress. If Heath were to espouse these viewpoints in any workplace in the United States, he would be terminated immediately out of fear of litigation. So why is this behavior tolerated here? All of these mentally unbalanced people who have been victimizing this message board for the past year or two share one thing in common: they have all been ridiculed and/or banned from other message boards because of their atrocious English skills and their attention-seeking behavior. So they turn to AllDeaf in the belief that they will be accepted solely because they are deaf. But the reality of the matter is that they are victimizing innocent people. When Heath was making a pathetic attempt to justify the Holocaust a few months ago, one of our more respected members PM’ed me in the middle of the conversation and told me that she was feeling physically ill and had to go outside and get some air. No sanctions were placed against him for this behavior. Alex just PM’ed him and told him to knock it off. The point is that this message board is unique, and shouldn’t serve as a dumping ground for the Internet’s rejects. Freedom of speech does not justify deliberately inflicting psychological distress for the sake of stroking a narcissistic ego.
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Gemtun said:
I am a strong believer in Karma too - so that is why I am very careful with what I have to say or think about others.....do to others what you want them to do you!
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Yes, you are right. It's why I think it's so immature for some ADers here who pushed the button to make Heath to post more - and for that, for what ? That's stupidity for doin' that to him. Anyone who knows how to ignore is showin' more mature. For those who don't know HOW to ignore are showin' IMMATURE.

In fact, it wasn't Heath's fault. Alex should ban someone else who caused him aggravate and say his pieces in his posts worse. That's unthinkable of someone else doin' that to him. It's not smart thing to do like that to him.
 
CyberRed said:
Yes, you are right. It's why I think it's so immature for some ADers here who pushed the button to make Heath to post more - and for that, for what ? That's stupidity for doin' that to him. Anyone who knows how to ignore is showin' more mature. For those who don't know HOW to ignore are showin' IMMATURE.

In fact, it wasn't Heath's fault. Alex should ban someone else who caused him aggravate and say his pieces in his posts worse. That's unthinkable of someone else doin' that to him. It's not smart thing to do like that to him.
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And look at "these people" who pushed the buttons
to annoy and harrass Heath ....

Remember Alex's new rule here:
http://www.alldeaf.com/608792-post2.html

New rule added: "No enticing or provoking other members
to cause them to get into trouble."
:whistle:
 
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