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Voted against Stem Cell research and such while living in MO.
 
Im guessing she voted against embryonic stem cells. I don't care for embryonic stem cells as they don't work(and just cause tumors), but adult stem cells work great. Shame that USA is years behind, probably due to all the anti stem cell naysayers. For those of us who choose to get treated with stem cells, we have to travel.
 
i support stem cell research for everything, but my goodness.. some people here treat it like it's their crack. :shock:
 
kokonut said:
Which ones? There are three kinds of stem cells research.
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I'm thinking embryonic, but I still don't think it's right no matter which kind. That's just my personal opinion. I would never stop another from what they believe.
 
How is using a person's own adult stem cells be wrong if proven effective and successful, say, against leukemia for many years? And this is true, btw.
 
I'm not going to get totally into this. I don't believe there us any one right answer.
 
Ok. That's fine. I mean use of adult stem cells for leukemia is common as using your own stored blood for surgery.
 
KristinaB said:
I'm thinking embryonic, but I still don't think it's right no matter which kind. That's just my personal opinion. I would never stop another from what they believe.
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By voting against stem cells, you and everyone else who voted stopped Americans from being able to get stem cells in our own country. If I have a life threatening disease, I might have to move to a country that has stem cells to cure my disease.
 
kokonut said:
How is using a person's own adult stem cells be wrong if proven effective and successful, say, against leukemia for many years? And this is true, btw.
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They do not use a person's own stem cells to treat any of the blood cancers. They use marrow transplants that require a donor. You really do need to get your information straight.
 
kokonut said:
Ok. That's fine. I mean use of adult stem cells for leukemia is common as using your own stored blood for surgery.
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The use of bone marrow transplants is common. Quite different than using stem cells only. Are you confused, or are you engaging in a little intellectual dishonesty.

And marrow transplants are the last course of treatment for a non-remitting cancer of the blood. There are many other treatments that are tried first. Transplants are at the end of protocol.
 
jillio said:
They do not use a person's own stem cells to treat any of the blood cancers. They use marrow transplants that require a donor. You really do need to get your information straight.
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That is correct. One of my uncles had it when he was a child. He has been in remission since then though, but at the time he had it, it was pretty severe.
 
Banjo said:
That is correct. One of my uncles had it when he was a child. He has been in remission since then though, but at the time he had it, it was pretty severe.
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Glad to hear he is in remission. When marrow transplants work, they are amazing. Unfortunately, they are not successful in all cases. There is a lot of risk involved, and that is why they are considered the final step in protocol when nothing else has worked.
 
jillio said:
The use of bone marrow transplants is common. Quite different than using stem cells only. Are you confused, or are you engaging in a little intellectual dishonesty.

And marrow transplants are the last course of treatment for a non-remitting cancer of the blood. There are many other treatments that are tried first. Transplants are at the end of protocol.
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Both of those points are inaccurate, actually.

PBSC, or peripheral blood stem cell transplantation, has long since taken favor over bone marrow transplantation for leukemia, in part due to the fact that making a PBSC donation is much easier on the donor than a bone marrow donation. The only real reasons for doing a marrow transplant at this point are outdated transplant center policies or lack of insurance coverage for PBSC. There's no medical need to transplant whole marrow.

You're also solidly inaccurate about transplantation being a last-ditch effort for only leukemias. In some forms of blood cancer, we know that chemotherapy will not likely produce a long-term remission, so transplantation is recommended even while the person is experiencing their first remission, or especially while that person is in remission, as transplanting while someone is remission generally improves the outcome quite significantly.

Both marrow transplantation and PBSC are also used for other types of leukemias and immune system disorders, and both are also used in some cases when treating a solid-tumor cancer will also be myeloablative or close, both because the person can survive higher doses of chemotherapy, and because the new immune system (if they are not donating to themselves and instead using a relative or unrelated other person donor) can develop a graft-versus-cancer effect and increase that person's chances of disease free survival.

Just sayin', before you call someone out for dishonesty, you might want to be sure you don't have facts that are frankly a good 15 years outdated.
 
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Aleser said:
Both of those points are inaccurate, actually.

PBSC, or peripheral blood stem cell transplantation, has long since taken favor over bone marrow transplantation for leukemia, in part due to the fact that making a PBSC donation is much easier on the donor than a bone marrow donation. The only real reasons for doing a marrow transplant at this point are outdated transplant center policies or lack of insurance coverage for PBSC. There's no medical need to transplant whole marrow.

You're also solidly inaccurate about transplantation being a last-ditch effort for only leukemias. In some forms of blood cancer, we know that chemotherapy will not likely produce a long-term remission, so transplantation is recommended even while the person is experiencing their first remission, or especially while that person is in remission, as transplanting while someone is remission generally improves the outcome quite significantly.

Both marrow transplantation and PBSC are also used for other types of leukemias and immune system disorders, and both are also used in some cases when treating a solid-tumor cancer will also be myeloablative or close, both because the person can survive higher doses of chemotherapy, and because the new immune system can develop a graft-versus-cancer effect and increase that person's chances of disease free survival.

Just sayin', before you call someone out for dishonesty, you might want to be sure you don't have facts that are frankly a good 15 years outdated.
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LMAO!!

:laugh2:

Talk about Jillio getting pwn3d here.

Very interesting info!!
 
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