anyone going green?

catty -

I thought I submitted my post a few minutes ago, but I guess I clicked the wrong button - preview instead of post it. Here is another one.

Wow that surprised me. I looked up my bookmark that I saved a few years ago. Surprisely, it is no longer on the site. I just found another website that has a different company and different website address. It could be another fraud. That's something funny going on. Here is the link if that what you are talking about:

http://www.ucsofa.com
or
http://www.bwanetwork.com

Please let me know about it.
 
catty -

I thought I submitted my post a few minutes ago, but I guess I clicked the wrong button - preview instead of post it. Here is another one.

Wow that surprised me. I looked up my bookmark that I saved a few years ago. Surprisely, it is no longer on the site. I just found another website that has a different company and different website address. It could be another fraud. That's something funny going on. Here is the link if that what you are talking about:

UCSofA Home
or
Untitled Document

Please let me know about it.

Yup exactly. That's the first new website I've seen. It's a fraud tho. That motor I saw on pix in website look like the one in other website (they're of different configuration but works the same). Here's muller's motor website. . MullerPower.com ... Bill Muller Motor/Generator (this website recently updated and is new. I haven't check this out for long time. It look like they have changed alot. Used to be lists of plans and videos and how to's at first but now moved to different site. I copied and pasted it from Don Adsitt's website link Making the Muller Over Unity Generator

Also I found link within Muller's website, The Very Last Page of The Internet. This is where I checked website and as for Jn Naudin, I was wrong, sorry . It is Don Adsitt (He worked with Jn Naudin on Free Energy tho) Here is the fraud webpage he post to warn about fraud. The Very Last Page Of the Internet

I contacted Don Adsitt few times regarding about free energy questions years ago.
Feel free to research LOL.
Thanks
CAtty
 
I recently looked through Muller's Motor website. it requires Realone Player to watch. I've watched same one. It's kinda a bit blurry cuz it's old video. But for plans, Don Adsitt's site didn't show more of these plans. I DID copy it in past from Muller's Motor website and not sure if it's in my pc file or print out. It had a details on how to make one. It's pretty basic in Electricial sense. You'll see Muller's motor on website have 6 big capacitors (3 caps bundled each). It works like a battery. There's plenty more website you can look through LOL. here's another site WEIRD SCIENCE: 'Free Energy' Articles

Catty
 
Lot of weird science: free energy article have non working website. Used to be lot of good stuff going on. Apparently, the website went out of date.
sorry
catty
 
I recycle things, use energy saving lightbulbs, use public transport when and where possible, eat organic food and I am also vegan. That is also green as factory farming causes a lot of pollution.
 
I recycle things, use energy saving lightbulbs, use public transport when and where possible, eat organic food and I am also vegan. That is also green as factory farming causes a lot of pollution.

"factory farming causes a lot of pollution"? What kind of pollution? Chemicals?
 
Most pollution is from the animals' waste (poop/pee.) Especially when it all runs into the water supply.

I, too, am vegan and try to buy mostly organic, as pesticides pollute water supplies.

I would love to have a solar powered house. It's something I would check into when I found a place I planned to stay in for a long time.
 
I see. Sounds not too good. We will have to wash the vegetables.
I read a company's website that sells healthy lettuces on its farm. They put spiders to eat the insects which is cool. Sometimes, they have to use some unnatural chemical to limit amount of spider population. They cannot find another way to control them without using the chemical.

That's what I plan to a buy a house that has a solar panel. It is always a good idea. I think that a solar water heater usually does not work because two houses have one, and they lasted 10 years. I didn't ask them why they got rid of it. A solar panel (electricity) last about 15 years or maybe more because it wears out the energy. We need to be aware of three types of solar panels. I don't have the paper with me so you should investigate it before you buy one.

I have been thinking about a geothermal. I do not have the information about pros and cons.
 
I see. Sounds not too good. We will have to wash the vegetables.

I think you missed the point.;) The point is to stop eating meat, eggs, and dairy. When the demand for those things goes down, so will the supply; in turn, the pollution. ;) :D
 
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I see. Sounds not too good. We will have to wash the vegetables.
I read a company's website that sells healthy lettuces on its farm. They put spiders to eat the insects which is cool. Sometimes, they have to use some unnatural chemical to limit amount of spider population. They cannot find another way to control them without using the chemical.

That's what I plan to a buy a house that has a solar panel. It is always a good idea. I think that a solar water heater usually does not work because two houses have one, and they lasted 10 years. I didn't ask them why they got rid of it. A solar panel (electricity) last about 15 years or maybe more because it wears out the energy. We need to be aware of three types of solar panels. I don't have the paper with me so you should investigate it before you buy one.

I have been thinking about a geothermal. I do not have the information about pros and cons.


Yup, I've read about Solar Cell don't last 10 to 15 years. It's the coating become weakened and faded out due to Sun's strong UV ray. They're like an acid eating away the paint.

I agree about Solar water heater. I've seen several homes have solar water heater. Some are very old and looked ugly. I remmy that over the year I drove by one house w/ ugly reflector finally removed after it was sold to new owner. It sound like it had a short usefulness. Due to winter season. One had to drain water at night to prevent pipe freezing and breakage. BUT I read about newest Solar water heater that use Propylene Glycol that act like car's antifreeze but non-toxic to environment. It act like heat transfer unit to transfer heat to both water heater and furnace to keep water hot and heats home during Cloudless Day time....

Geothermal isn't everywhere. Not all states have them. You have to be near where volcano located where it produce steam coming out from ground. Some area require drilling close to magma so they can put coil pipe in (that'll be hundreds of feet or more and require powerful water pump) to extract heat from it. Right now Environmentlist don't want see beautiful geothermal disappears. Some state used to have "old faithful" fountain and was destroyed by geothermal technology use. So they had to keep balance beauty and use.

I read about Hydrogen and it's use. it CANNOT broil waters, but can heat home. Inventor is working on to put it to market. It have electrolysis process to seprate water into H2 O just like overcharged battery. Then pipe it to furnace's Jet or rack burner. Furnace must be stainless steel because after it burns, it returns back to water and return back to electrolysis tank. It's the cleanest way to keep environment clean and purify water too..

As for natual gas furnace. I would recommend ANYONE to have Jet furnace instead of Rack furnace. Typically, Jet furnace have 5 Jet burners. They're so economical. I DID see BIG difference on gas bill. At my old 3 bedroom home. It had Rack furnace and gas bills are high. When I moved into 4 bedroom home which is twice bigger than my old home. It have Jet furnace. Same size as my old furnace. The gas bill halved of what I paid. My wife and I got puzzled cuz of size of our new home (I thought big home means big gas and electric bills but it turned out not to be true, it's far cheaper than our old home! huh!!!??:crazy: :dunno: . Both home (previous and current) have excellent insulation. It's just the furnace itself. My parent replaced their furnace to Jet type in their 40 years old home that have no insulation at all, their gas bills cut in half.... Same goes for my friends too.

Try ride bike or buy a scooter to ride to work as long as it's not a highway to work to save gas. Try find backroad if possible.

Catty
 
vrsterp -

Once a while, I buy some eggs at a private owner who has a small or tiny farm. They do not use any chemical in the eggs. Right? I don't buy meats - Yuck! I usually eat a fish once a while so I am a semi-vegetarian. I also buy raw milk, and raw cheeses. I am tired of some people saying that a raw milk is harmful - which is not quite true.

Without a pasteurization, it has a plenty of nutrients in the milk. Some said that some raw milk harmed to some people - that one I believe that the farmer did not clean the machine or cow properly. I know a small farm has a good reputation for a long time. Many people thought that milk is good for our bones. This is not true. It proves that broccoli makes our bones stronger. Milk contains something to do with acid in it that cause bones weaken. I forgot that a milk is not vegan. What else do you drink instead of milk?


purplecatty -

I cannot find information about Jet furnance on the google because most websites show some pictures of a giant furnance. I am looking for a proper size for a heat house. I didn't know that a geothermal is not everywhere. I am afraid of using a gas or even a gas stove. My sister has a gas stove, and it does not bother her.

I love to go on a regular bike trail - not riding up a mountain hike stuff. I am stuck I had a major heart surgery three months ago. I had a serious heart infection. My doctor said that my body will be back to normal in 9 months. I have to keep my teeth clean all the times - I am not sure I had a gum infection in my tooth that caused the problem or I had a small cut skin on my hand when installing a wire green fences for my dogs - I don't know. I learned my lesson big time.

I am still unsure which insulation is better. There are two types of house insulations - icynene foam and natural cotton fiber. I don't trust a fiberglass insulation because it is not natural, and I know it is everywhere in houses and buildings. Some people have lung cancers - I cannot proof it. I would rather to find an alternative material, and it is better than a fiberglass.

I have been thinking about a scooter someday. I would rather to find and buy a better house with green energy stuff so that I could buy the scooter. :fingersx:
 
Staying green would be awesome for me, I've been always trying to stay green as much as I can.

I only drive my car for work that's all, no other.

I use a cloth bag for shopping, not the plastic bags or paper bags.

I always RECYCLED even tough my roommate never recycle, I took their trash and checking to make sure all of the things are go to recycle.

There is many things I am staying as green. I know there's a Green Party for Presidential Election, even Greenpeace too!
 
It not the wear on the solar panel that make it not worth the money. It the enegry output produced by the solar panel which is not worth spending money on as of yet.

Becasue the solar panel are only be able to covert enegry from visable light/ray so all the UV rays are going to waste on solar panel and only outputting about 18% per panel however there is one company that is working a new nano tech which should capture enegry from invisable uv rays and increase the output to about 80%-85& per panel which will generate a return on your investments in solar panels.

That is why solar panel never gotten popular because you can spend 20,000 dollar for a complete setup and still never see the return from your investment on them that you would save on electric bills.

I have researched in those fields and am very well versed on solar panels or altnerated enegry.
 
It not the wear on the solar panel that make it not worth the money. It the enegry output produced by the solar panel which is not worth spending money on as of yet.

Becasue the solar panel are only be able to covert enegry from visable light/ray so all the UV rays are going to waste on solar panel and only outputting about 18% per panel however there is one company that is working a new nano tech which should capture enegry from invisable uv rays and increase the output to about 80%-85& per panel which will generate a return on your investments in solar panels.

That is why solar panel never gotten popular because you can spend 20,000 dollar for a complete setup and still never see the return from your investment on them that you would save on electric bills.

I have researched in those fields and am very well versed on solar panels or altnerated enegry.

I am really surprised about that. I'm glad that you told me about a new way for the solar panel - the nano technology.
 
vrsterp -

Once a while, I buy some eggs at a private owner who has a small or tiny farm. They do not use any chemical in the eggs. Right? I don't buy meats - Yuck! I usually eat a fish once a while so I am a semi-vegetarian. I also buy raw milk, and raw cheeses. I am tired of some people saying that a raw milk is harmful - which is not quite true.

Without a pasteurization, it has a plenty of nutrients in the milk. Some said that some raw milk harmed to some people - that one I believe that the farmer did not clean the machine or cow properly. I know a small farm has a good reputation for a long time. Many people thought that milk is good for our bones. This is not true. It proves that broccoli makes our bones stronger. Milk contains something to do with acid in it that cause bones weaken. I forgot that a milk is not vegan. What else do you drink instead of milk?


purplecatty -

I cannot find information about Jet furnance on the google because most websites show some pictures of a giant furnance. I am looking for a proper size for a heat house. I didn't know that a geothermal is not everywhere. I am afraid of using a gas or even a gas stove. My sister has a gas stove, and it does not bother her.

I love to go on a regular bike trail - not riding up a mountain hike stuff. I am stuck I had a major heart surgery three months ago. I had a serious heart infection. My doctor said that my body will be back to normal in 9 months. I have to keep my teeth clean all the times - I am not sure I had a gum infection in my tooth that caused the problem or I had a small cut skin on my hand when installing a wire green fences for my dogs - I don't know. I learned my lesson big time.

I am still unsure which insulation is better. There are two types of house insulations - icynene foam and natural cotton fiber. I don't trust a fiberglass insulation because it is not natural, and I know it is everywhere in houses and buildings. Some people have lung cancers - I cannot proof it. I would rather to find an alternative material, and it is better than a fiberglass.

I have been thinking about a scooter someday. I would rather to find and buy a better house with green energy stuff so that I could buy the scooter. :fingersx:


Ok It must be another name of furnace, I called it Jet furnace because it look like a jet flame coming out. Try Lennox, Trane, and other brands that you can find it in hardware store like Lowes, Home Depot, and Sears. They DO have furnace like that. If you happen be at large hardware store, go to the Air conditioning dept where they sell and take a look inside if the cover is off. IF the cover still on. Ask salesperson to take cover off for you to look at. It look like 5 rows of Jet nozzles. and there's nothing beyond that. This is a very economical furnace. They're commonplace in many stores now.

As for Insulation. I agree that fiberglass is not natural and can cause lung cancer. I do have some kind of "feathery" insulation in my attic (that's something very new to me contrast to my old home that have fiberglass "popcorns"). I do not know if it's really a fiberglas or some kind of foam. I usually put breather mask on (the one have two removable filters) before I enter the attic. I did not feel itchy from the "feather" like foam. I personally don't like it cuz it's messy and easily flatten and stays there.


There are underground homes commonly out in country (farm area) that have underground homes. Many in Missouri and some in Kansas. They're very very economical. They do not need A/C at all cuz it's cool during hot summer and use solar windows to keep house warm during winter. But it worth over $1 or 2 million dollars. We do have old missile Silos here in Western Kansas and new owner bought it and converted it into home. It is very interesting on newspaper that they have huge garage with working heavy duty elevator strong enuf to lift cars and trucks. They said it is very quiet and cozy in there. Also they joked that if there are a nuclear blast happens in Kansas, they wouldn't know until they come out LOL.


As for Raw milk and cheese. it's nothing wrong with it as long as they keep it pasturized. Almost all farms do pasterize milk to kill bacterias and do not add antyhing on it. I do not see any problem with it. Most important thing is to get it when it was recently milked or cheese recently made. I agree that people got sick from milk because farmers did not keep equiptment and animal clean. Here in KS and MO. we never encouter problems. We did have meat shop where my dad go there and they churn out fresh hamburger from cow meat and wrapped it with white paper. My dad kept bunch of 1lbs hamburgers in freezer and it last a year and still fresh LOL. That was long time ago...

We do have Amish town located in Jamesport, Mo. We go there once a while and we bought their bread and honey ect. All made by Amish and it tasted sooo good. Amish owns stores there and they DO NOT have any electricity in their kitchen and store. All hand made and store hours depends on sunrise and sunset. LOL. But there are few stores Amish owned have electricity powered by generator to run machine shop to make wood furnitures. Rest of the town stores owned by regular people and there are alot of antique items tho, But Amish people riding on horse buggy is common in the town. My family and I went to Lancaster, Pa and took a tour. We went to Amish museum and Indeed Amish people can be funny in some way. Like they do have air powered batter mixer, washing machine powered by generator, horse buggy with car battery to power headlights and brakelight and have 4 drum brakes on wheel to stop buggy ect.. We were laughing cuz they are using modern techology mix with old fashioned. Very intruging!! I wonder the next 20 years, they may have flying buggy w/ horse attached. Maybe finally have GPS system in their buggy. Kidding

Catty:giggle:
 
I'm glad to hear that more and more people are going green in their homes and personal lives. :)

Few months ago, I replaced almost ALL bulbs by mini spiral lamp fluorescent bulbs. Also I recycle all the time. Also I don't drive so I ride city buses and walk all the time help reduce air pollution. I use less paper and used power point more often for my presentations. Also about all applicances I have are Energy Star.

I wish clothes are recycleable. I want to recycle them so I can make room for new clothes.
 
I was raised on raw, unpasteurized milk and I am still here!
 
I'm glad to hear that more and more people are going green in their homes and personal lives. :)

Few months ago, I replaced almost ALL bulbs by mini spiral lamp fluorescent bulbs. Also I recycle all the time. Also I don't drive so I ride city buses and walk all the time help reduce air pollution. I use less paper and used power point more often for my presentations. Also about all applicances I have are Energy Star.

I wish clothes are recycleable. I want to recycle them so I can make room for new clothes.

Ditto. I just replaced Halogen to Spiral lamps for outdoor lighting in front and back of my house because I got sick and tired of replacing it once every 3 month when it burns out. I made sure that spiral bulb would be able to fire up at -10 degree (in KS, average winter temp is 20 degree some nights can go down to 0 degree). I use 3 of 24 watt (equavalent of 100 watt) in my garage. It was worth it cuz it made my big 3 car garage look brighter. 3 of 75 watt inscadent bulbs can't match that cuz it look dim in garage. I am replacing more indescadent bulbs around my house.

The ONLY drawback for spiral bulbs is that It cannot be used as a flasher for doorbell and telephone. It can damage internal parts of spiral bulbs. I read instruction on Sonic Alert device say "Do not use fluorescent lamp for flasher". I also have astrometric timer (Automatically turns on or off according to time of changing sun rise and sunset, no photoelectric. mounted in switchbox) for front outdoor lighting system. Although the instruction warned me not to use fluorescent bulbs. I use it anyway and it works great. I think it had to do with the standard tube fluorescent lamp require electronic or ballast starting that can damage circuity inside of the timer. The spiral bulbs don't take that much power to fire up.

You need to keep your keen eyes on Kelvin of the bulb. If you see 3000K which is a soft white, 5000K is White, 6500K is bluish white. I hate 6500K. It make my house look like an Apartment (cheap looking Blueish glow :eek3: :eek3: ). I made an exchange to 3000K and it look muuch better. At Home Depot, they sell three different Kelvin in package color. You can look at the package showing indicator of which Kelvin bulbs is (It showed "Candle", "Sun", and "Stars" as 3000k, 5000k, 6500k) .. It show Red, Yellow, Blue. While at Lowes, It only show two Kelvin, Soft and Blueish.

Soon in the near future, There will be a LED (Light Emitting Diode) bulb for house. Biggest advantage is that It use 1/2 of electricity than Fluorescent bulbs. Electric bills will be very cheap. It uses White High brightness LED or Luxeon LED (Luxeon is the brightest and is the most expensive for flashlights). Currently, they are trying to match natural light glow of those standard bulbs. Last 10 years or more. Because White LED show somewhat purplish or blueish hue. Nicha LED show whiter which is high quality. IT had many advantages over Indescadent and Fluorescent bulbs. It can be use as flasher (Those who own VP200 have White LED around the camera flashes for ringer. Cool!!!) for deaf and can withstand coldest to hottest tempratures. It can be built to install in tightest spot of the house. Now many new cars currently have White LED for lighting. Currently, They DO sell LED lightbulbs online but it would be too expensive for each, $20 for one equavalent to 40 watt YIKE!!!

The house is getting greener in the future. I bet in the future, they might have Ultrasound Refrigerator and A/C that use very little electricity!! Ultrasound is a ultrahigh fequency sound that act like a friction to molecules in freon to heat up to make it colder to the end. There is refrigerator sold online which use Ultrasound but it is 16cu ft and cost over $1,500 (it looks like an apt ref! and xpensive!!). For A/C, they are working on to improve Ultrasound. So you won't have to worry about power brownout during hot summer.

Maybe once the appliance and bulbs improves. You can run entire house with couple banks of 12v batteries LOL. or use 3 of CI batteries ROFL (It be really nice!!)

Catty
 
Ditto. I just replaced Halogen to Spiral lamps for outdoor lighting in front and back of my house because I got sick and tired of replacing it once every 3 month when it burns out. I made sure that spiral bulb would be able to fire up at -10 degree (in KS, average winter temp is 20 degree some nights can go down to 0 degree). I use 3 of 24 watt (equavalent of 100 watt) in my garage. It was worth it cuz it made my big 3 car garage look brighter. 3 of 75 watt inscadent bulbs can't match that cuz it look dim in garage. I am replacing more indescadent bulbs around my house.

The ONLY drawback for spiral bulbs is that It cannot be used as a flasher for doorbell and telephone. It can damage internal parts of spiral bulbs. I read instruction on Sonic Alert device say "Do not use fluorescent lamp for flasher". I also have astrometric timer (Automatically turns on or off according to time of changing sun rise and sunset, no photoelectric. mounted in switchbox) for front outdoor lighting system. Although the instruction warned me not to use fluorescent bulbs. I use it anyway and it works great. I think it had to do with the standard tube fluorescent lamp require electronic or ballast starting that can damage circuity inside of the timer. The spiral bulbs don't take that much power to fire up.

You need to keep your keen eyes on Kelvin of the bulb. If you see 3000K which is a soft white, 5000K is White, 6500K is bluish white. I hate 6500K. It make my house look like an Apartment (cheap looking Blueish glow :eek3: :eek3: ). I made an exchange to 3000K and it look muuch better. At Home Depot, they sell three different Kelvin in package color. You can look at the package showing indicator of which Kelvin bulbs is (It showed "Candle", "Sun", and "Stars" as 3000k, 5000k, 6500k) .. It show Red, Yellow, Blue. While at Lowes, It only show two Kelvin, Soft and Blueish.

Soon in the near future, There will be a LED (Light Emitting Diode) bulb for house. Biggest advantage is that It use 1/2 of electricity than Fluorescent bulbs. Electric bills will be very cheap. It uses White High brightness LED or Luxeon LED (Luxeon is the brightest and is the most expensive for flashlights). Currently, they are trying to match natural light glow of those standard bulbs. Last 10 years or more. Because White LED show somewhat purplish or blueish hue. Nicha LED show whiter which is high quality. IT had many advantages over Indescadent and Fluorescent bulbs. It can be use as flasher (Those who own VP200 have White LED around the camera flashes for ringer. Cool!!!) for deaf and can withstand coldest to hottest tempratures. It can be built to install in tightest spot of the house. Now many new cars currently have White LED for lighting. Currently, They DO sell LED lightbulbs online but it would be too expensive for each, $20 for one equavalent to 40 watt YIKE!!!

The house is getting greener in the future. I bet in the future, they might have Ultrasound Refrigerator and A/C that use very little electricity!! Ultrasound is a ultrahigh fequency sound that act like a friction to molecules in freon to heat up to make it colder to the end. There is refrigerator sold online which use Ultrasound but it is 16cu ft and cost over $1,500 (it looks like an apt ref! and xpensive!!). For A/C, they are working on to improve Ultrasound. So you won't have to worry about power brownout during hot summer.

Maybe once the appliance and bulbs improves. You can run entire house with couple banks of 12v batteries LOL. or use 3 of CI batteries ROFL (It be really nice!!)

Catty

I understand what you mean. Sometime it can be very fratursating that you can't replace ALL bulbs to spiral ones. I can't replace few bulbs including my two desk lamp and bathroom wall lamp. At least my electricity bill cut more than half since I changed it few months ago. I can't complain! :)

I agree about appliances and bulbs. I am 100% sure they will improve as well as technology improves. :)
 
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