Anyone else get Depression because of HOH?

I live in the UK, and there is a huge social stigma about depression and mental health.

I've been feeling low for nearly 6 months now, my motivation and confidence is draining away and I can't get help for it. I went to the doctors about it and they just suggest anti-depressants which I'll never take (There's a member of my family who's addicted to the pills).

I try and talk to my dad about it and he just says "chin up pal, just snap out of it." If only it was that simple...

But I'm gonna keep myself busy and take a break from people, hopefully that'll sort me out.

EDIT: I found something that might help me manage my social life and hearing loss a bit better. I'm gonna give these people a ring tomorrow.

Here's the link if you wanna take a look.

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me too...hmmm
its like blaming deafness, when really we should blame peope's ignorance

Agreed. All they care about is their reputations under the uhh... how do I say it... corporate-profiteering scheme system? Like those old American commercials that I dreaded, they always end the pharmaceutical ads with potential "symptoms" and death illnesses... I hated those goddamn capitalist menace, it's so ironic since the original theme was you were supposed to be "cured", but instead ended up with bad ending. NOW that is what I truly call IGNORANCE... Dunno if they do that in Australia or elsewhere as well.

I have a theory about the motivation behind doctors/nurses/people ignorance in the American system. I wrote this part some years ago, 2006/2007 maybe, let me find the document, but I'm not going to be lengthy here because the paper is pretty lengthy. I'm not sure I still agree with it, but I'll see what I will say since I don't remember much of it.

Begin.

______________________
Typical Americans are rather atypical and common for which their treatment are earned through delusional persuasion of acceptance into medicine experiments; as long as the objective agenda of medical corporations are recorded and eliminated into the incarceration of visit and pay. You get bothered by nurses, when you are twenty-five years old yourself, being nagged and ordered like a little child. In jail, you are treated like an adult. You get to be left alone all the time to yourself, like the finest sobriety honor of medal without any naughty pharmaceutical interferences that medical corporations use to profit for its beneficial profiteering enterprise in a sense that we are the prisoners of corporation on the pretext of psychosis that run their business and experimental industry.

Then, which one would a true method rather be in, ideally, jail or hospital? It is a complex thought in itself of individual, or, rather, a product of either institutions that sell oneself to society that jeopardize such a complex process through the gateway of categorization of socialism and its prison cell systems. On jail side, that is a positivist method for political terrorists. On hospital sideways, that is just a process that negates and denies any individual of their human behaviors for the purpose of evaluation and testing trials that do not benefit to oneself.



...........

They are speaking different language that makes no sense whatsoever, in which hypothesis is a basis of necessity that does not define anything except by income earnings of proscribing, prescribing, and prescreening anyways. All they want is to feed you as long as they earn their revenues, and hopefully, to keep you staying as long as possible. Meanwhile, in jail, it is predictive prescribed to the ink of laws, and this is only a temporary detention of incarceration, rather than, say, being kept in hospital for the rest of your life like you been retired early.

Then again, the echoes of profiteers seem to linger around the radar psychosis of state budgets that simply would not go away, whether if elections are won or not… They have been standardized on the puppet’s strings, known as governor’s hierarchy that has been inherited for long time. Who are profiteers for prison systems the research papers by researchers that gradually build up the structure to present as we know it? And the same sociologists and psychologists that play within a framework of mental madness inflicted on patients for their benefits of insights about themselves that they ultimately derive their profits from.

Perhaps the profiteers needed a categorization of victims that maximize their reflection on the standpoint of their desperate attempts to avoid hospitalization and mental evaluations. The profiteers hated the idea of being victims, so they pursue academics of high standards. Normal researcher, after all, does not try hard, unless they truly try to explore inner emotions and problems to push the theorist boundary line of madness who want to punish, standardize, and harshest re-punish to prove their theories. The vertebrae structure of lagoon is then distilled from mass data, and restructured into the architecture of categorization that determine the thesis of “predictive outcomes” as a proof of productive classification. Is there a fault in both systems, jails and mental hospitals?

There might be one. The fault being a theory that has to be reaffirmed. This means that patients or arrested persons will come back, except only that the third latter is a permanent remove from both systems of harshest measurement. This is the minimal delimit which eliminates the individuals in their lowest and highest ranges of input and output in methodological studies. Therefore, it may be assumed that the profiteers have in fact been involved, and they wished to eliminate the phenomenological faces of themselves. This is the only way to truly test the systems to its maximum of external inputs and outputs. After all, you can’t just put a theory to work on if it does not stay in consistent and constant flat-line of violence that is not physical, but psychological one.
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Umm, I better stop here, this post has gotten lengthy. The last paragraphs deal with the concept of complete "abstinence" in detachment.

Anyways. Uhh, lol, Now I feel like I'm in your shoes, as you referred to your craziness about the insurance/debt schemes in current events around the world via Nature Disasters. People on AD are probably lingering over this post and see whether I'm crazy like deaftears, although not THAT crazy...


But uhh, I have to agree with you there, minority of the majority do need at least some kind of therapeutic sessions with medications in your previous post to ummm some lady or guy, can't remember. *drinking wine*

However, it seems to me that more and unnecessary victims are largely evaluated for no other reason than capitalist gain means... or something along that line. Science tries to standardize everything, from Rx to even physics, and they do not give out satisfactory answers thus so far.

And, yeah, blame people's ignorance... oh boy.

I think I'm going to pass out after this post. Good morning.
 
I had depression when i was teen for my lifes im use medicine to help but im raise deaf as baby
 
me too...hmmm
its like blaming deafness, when really we should blame peope's ignorance

people choice to thought to blaming to ignorance to person or
as well confess forgive apologized owe? to people reason. how. it is reason difficult
people. word "blame people ignorance" don't do that calling
hear blame people ignorance but look likes on sound word!

tell encourage to pleasure to respect to supportive to pleasure. they don't ignorance to person/things . it is problem on things!
 
people choice to thought to blaming to ignorance to person or
as well confess forgive apologized owe? to people reason. how. it is reason difficult
people. word "blame people ignorance" don't do that calling
hear blame people ignorance but look likes on sound word!

tell encourage to pleasure to respect to supportive to pleasure. they don't ignorance to person/things . it is problem on things!

sorry,no you dont get it, you need someone to read Lukin's reply to me, and get them to explain from English to ASL , then you will understand.

English have a funny way of looking like 1 meaning and might have 3 meanings , or even means something else!, I want what you try to say, 'ignore things' is same as ignore situation but like hearing Do ignore deafs, because they dont have patience. its the patience thing too. But Lukin and I was talking about the medicalisation of d/Deaf people. a particular type of ignorance, very powerful and very damaging.
 
sorry,no you dont get it, you need someone to read Lukin's reply to me, and get them to explain from English to ASL , then you will understand.

English have a funny way of looking like 1 meaning and might have 3 meanings , or even means something else!, I want what you try to say, 'ignore things' is same as ignore situation but like hearing Do ignore deafs, because they dont have patience. its the patience thing too. But Lukin and I was talking about the medicalisation of d/Deaf people. a particular type of ignorance, very powerful and very damaging.

I straight to clear to understood.
 
love it man, i love this shit to read, we need to communicate more in PM's, you see, I am doing a Post Grad Advanced Research Methods this year, this sort of thing helps me. Ok not for research well sort off, but needing to learn how to connect to Philosophies in research to present argument in thesis writing.

I have a good book here, Selling Sickness, by Ray Moyniha and Alan Cassels.

its about how biggest pharmaceutical companies are turning us all into paitents, by 'selling wellness' and bullshit paranoia, as they are creating and marketing illness.

Agreed. All they care about is their reputations under the uhh... how do I say it... corporate-profiteering scheme system? Like those old American commercials that I dreaded, they always end the pharmaceutical ads with potential "symptoms" and death illnesses... I hated those goddamn capitalist menace, it's so ironic since the original theme was you were supposed to be "cured", but instead ended up with bad ending. NOW that is what I truly call IGNORANCE... Dunno if they do that in Australia or elsewhere as well.

I have a theory about the motivation behind doctors/nurses/people ignorance in the American system. I wrote this part some years ago, 2006/2007 maybe, let me find the document, but I'm not going to be lengthy here because the paper is pretty lengthy. I'm not sure I still agree with it, but I'll see what I will say since I don't remember much of it.

Begin.

______________________
Typical Americans are rather atypical and common for which their treatment are earned through delusional persuasion of acceptance into medicine experiments; as long as the objective agenda of medical corporations are recorded and eliminated into the incarceration of visit and pay. You get bothered by nurses, when you are twenty-five years old yourself, being nagged and ordered like a little child. In jail, you are treated like an adult. You get to be left alone all the time to yourself, like the finest sobriety honor of medal without any naughty pharmaceutical interferences that medical corporations use to profit for its beneficial profiteering enterprise in a sense that we are the prisoners of corporation on the pretext of psychosis that run their business and experimental industry.

Then, which one would a true method rather be in, ideally, jail or hospital? It is a complex thought in itself of individual, or, rather, a product of either institutions that sell oneself to society that jeopardize such a complex process through the gateway of categorization of socialism and its prison cell systems. On jail side, that is a positivist method for political terrorists. On hospital sideways, that is just a process that negates and denies any individual of their human behaviors for the purpose of evaluation and testing trials that do not benefit to oneself.



...........

They are speaking different language that makes no sense whatsoever, in which hypothesis is a basis of necessity that does not define anything except by income earnings of proscribing, prescribing, and prescreening anyways. All they want is to feed you as long as they earn their revenues, and hopefully, to keep you staying as long as possible. Meanwhile, in jail, it is predictive prescribed to the ink of laws, and this is only a temporary detention of incarceration, rather than, say, being kept in hospital for the rest of your life like you been retired early.

Then again, the echoes of profiteers seem to linger around the radar psychosis of state budgets that simply would not go away, whether if elections are won or not… They have been standardized on the puppet’s strings, known as governor’s hierarchy that has been inherited for long time. Who are profiteers for prison systems the research papers by researchers that gradually build up the structure to present as we know it? And the same sociologists and psychologists that play within a framework of mental madness inflicted on patients for their benefits of insights about themselves that they ultimately derive their profits from.

Perhaps the profiteers needed a categorization of victims that maximize their reflection on the standpoint of their desperate attempts to avoid hospitalization and mental evaluations. The profiteers hated the idea of being victims, so they pursue academics of high standards. Normal researcher, after all, does not try hard, unless they truly try to explore inner emotions and problems to push the theorist boundary line of madness who want to punish, standardize, and harshest re-punish to prove their theories. The vertebrae structure of lagoon is then distilled from mass data, and restructured into the architecture of categorization that determine the thesis of “predictive outcomes” as a proof of productive classification. Is there a fault in both systems, jails and mental hospitals?

There might be one. The fault being a theory that has to be reaffirmed. This means that patients or arrested persons will come back, except only that the third latter is a permanent remove from both systems of harshest measurement. This is the minimal delimit which eliminates the individuals in their lowest and highest ranges of input and output in methodological studies. Therefore, it may be assumed that the profiteers have in fact been involved, and they wished to eliminate the phenomenological faces of themselves. This is the only way to truly test the systems to its maximum of external inputs and outputs. After all, you can’t just put a theory to work on if it does not stay in consistent and constant flat-line of violence that is not physical, but psychological one.
___________________

Umm, I better stop here, this post has gotten lengthy. The last paragraphs deal with the concept of complete "abstinence" in detachment.

Anyways. Uhh, lol, Now I feel like I'm in your shoes, as you referred to your craziness about the insurance/debt schemes in current events around the world via Nature Disasters. People on AD are probably lingering over this post and see whether I'm crazy like deaftears, although not THAT crazy...


But uhh, I have to agree with you there, minority of the majority do need at least some kind of therapeutic sessions with medications in your previous post to ummm some lady or guy, can't remember. *drinking wine* WHAT WINE? soon I'd be opening up a 2008 Wild Earth Pinot Noir one of the best Pinot Noirs in the world, I aged it myself , time to enjoy!! i COLLECT wines, beers and whisky...

However, it seems to me that more and unnecessary victims are largely evaluated for no other reason than capitalist gain means... or something along that line. Science tries to standardize everything, from Rx to even physics, and they do not give out satisfactory answers thus so far.

And, yeah, blame people's ignorance... oh boy.

I think I'm going to pass out after this post. Good morning.
yah, good afternoon here
 
love it man, i love this shit to read, we need to communicate more in PM's, you see, I am doing a Post Grad Advanced Research Methods this year, this sort of thing helps me. Ok not for research well sort off, but needing to learn how to connect to Philosophies in research to present argument in thesis writing.

I have a good book here, Selling Sickness, by Ray Moyniha and Alan Cassels.

its about how biggest pharmaceutical companies are turning us all into paitents, by 'selling wellness' and bullshit paranoia, as they are creating and marketing illness.


yah, good afternoon here

Haha, sure, that would be awesome to read your thesis. As I recall, i wrote that piece for Biomedical Ethics. We covered everything from euthanasia to medical abuses to ethics of scientists' data usage from Holocaust camps to philosophies of doctor-patient relationships, stuff like that. That class was pretty tough at GWU, one of best law-oriented minds in DC area. A year later I changed my major Administration of Justice, got tired of 'professional' law jargon language pretty quick and its deceptive loopholes.

So, basically, the Post Grad Advanced Research Methods class is about how to improvise in arguments, something like that?



Hmm, that book sounds interesting. *snooping around the reader reviews*
 
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I don't know if was depressed.....I was certainly upset, very upset, when my fears that my hearing had taken another nose dive were confirmed. I had really been hoping there was just something wrong with my hearing aids. This was almost a year ago. It didn't help either that the lady at the VR gave me hope they'd cover a cochlear implant. Turned out she was new and didn't know what she was talking about. So seriously disappointed, upset and scared yeah defintely. Depressed?? No I don't think so.

I still get upset and hurt sometimes by people, by situations. But that's not depression is it?
 
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I believe people have issues depressions..
it is serious bipolar disorder/mood cycle hurt to emotional

no reason. how feeling inside your mind.. your cycle everyday again everyday. it is waste of energy though to negative tried your mind, if you worry depression your pain way life?

It is serious pop up your thinking depression out control of life

i am hand off on involves on way thread!:wave:
 
It's funny that you mentioned this because yes in the past growing up I found myself depressed, isolated feeling like I didn't know where I belonged, I have profound and severe loss in my ears and as it got worse, it really hit me hard once music didn't sound the same again. Music for me was my therapy, and I couldn't understand it the same way.So now if theres a new song I just look up lyrics to it and follow the sound that way. Everything is in caption on tv for me otherwise I can't understand anything. I've lost a few "friends" and quickly learned who my real ones were.

In relationships my exes blamed my hearing for everything, like as if it was a CHOICE that I could hear or not, that I need to focus more on listening, etc. My girlfriend now is completely different on that aspect, she understands deaf culture and shes hearing. She encourages me to become more fluent on ASL and unlike my exes telling me I need to listen she tells me I need to embrace who I am. In other words, listen in my own way. Lip reading/ASL/etc.

My advice for you is to find a group of people who are deaf/hoh/understands deaf culture. Take up ASL (or BSL) classes, make new friends :) Always remember things will be ok and there is absolutely nothing wrong with you.
 
I don't know if was depressed.....I was certainly upset, very upset, when my fears that my hearing had taken another nose dive were confirmed. I had really been hoping there was just something wrong with my hearing aids. This was almost a year ago. It didn't help either that the lady at the VR gave me hope they'd cover a cochlear implant. Turned out she was new and didn't know what she was talking about. So seriously disappointed, upset and scared yeah defintely. Depressed?? No I don't think so.

I still get upset and hurt sometimes by people, by situations. But that's not depression is it?

hang in there baby, if you dwell on it alot, it can lead to depression, Ive had my share of losing residentual hearing too, over the last 5 years - indeed it VERY very scary, becuase thats not what we call 'we love out deafness-not! its more about we love the way we are dealing with it, on a day to day tactics, the very tactic arent taught anywhere not even in schools, it in our personalities, and the fear of re-structuring it means changing out personality into the unknown, It not the love of hearing-ness' that some might lead to think otherwise.
you're fine, its scarig, and no you're not depressed...but its depressing yes, (different words = differeint contexts)

and i bloody hope you'd find some one who knows what they're talking about, quick....and also would hurt to say, 'check my ear wax and suction it out GENTLY..., that would help...and suss the foods that doesnt make you nervous...if you drink lots coffee say 7 cups, go down to 5, not 3, cuz youd get more edgy...try relax easy said than done! i know!...but i found the Best way to relax is to Keep doing what you really enjoys, even if that means cooking...keep doing that or even cleaning your rooms that helps too...the idea is busy but in quiet places...but keep busy and find that savvy VR, fast even its 1 month away, thats can be seen as hope, just hang in there
 
I definitely have days when I am depressed not just from being deaf though. Chronic pain, tinnitus which causes insomnia and now recovering from a broken leg. Some days it is just way too much for me.
 
It's funny that you mentioned this because yes in the past growing up I found myself depressed, isolated feeling like I didn't know where I belonged, I have profound and severe loss in my ears and as it got worse, it really hit me hard once music didn't sound the same again. Music for me was my therapy, and I couldn't understand it the same way.So now if theres a new song I just look up lyrics to it and follow the sound that way. Everything is in caption on tv for me otherwise I can't understand anything. I've lost a few "friends" and quickly learned who my real ones were.

In relationships my exes blamed my hearing for everything, like as if it was a CHOICE that I could hear or not, that I need to focus more on listening, etc. My girlfriend now is completely different on that aspect, she understands deaf culture and shes hearing. She encourages me to become more fluent on ASL and unlike my exes telling me I need to listen she tells me I need to embrace who I am. In other words, listen in my own way. Lip reading/ASL/etc.

My advice for you is to find a group of people who are deaf/hoh/understands deaf culture. Take up ASL (or BSL) classes, make new friends :) Always remember things will be ok and there is absolutely nothing wrong with you.

That's creepy.. You just described everything I'm going through now.

I don't think I truly understand the deaf culture since I've always been mainstream. As stupid as it sounds I've always tried to "hide" my disability by not asking people to repeat what they said or not asking someone to speak up, I just can't get past that sense of shame that I attribute to my lack of hearing.

I think I hid it that well that people almost expect me to keep up with everything, and I can't.
I've had friends and family scream at me cos they think I'm ignoring them and I'm just thinking "Are you ****ing serious...? I'm deaf!"
 
It is way late in the night me with an ice bag on my knee fucking thing. I did not really understand depression until it happened to me. I just thought I knew. This was several years ago and I dealt with it though it was a hard time. Now this last year it has been back to stay awhile again. No small visit but a long stay awhile.
Then I was younger less injured. Still my old habits of running and skiing and so forth did not help. It is some thing that has a grim life of its own and it takes hold and you eventually know its got you.
I am finally tired enough to sleep with this knee. Hope all is well. What do they call it there when you finish your apprenticeship? Here in Alaska they call it "turning out". I did an electrical apprenticeship. The hearing was a problem of course but it was no hiding it at all. I enjoyed some camaradry with the guys you bet but the days of me drinking had passed by the end of my apprenticeship.
 
It is way late in the night me with an ice bag on my knee fucking thing. I did not really understand depression until it happened to me. I just thought I knew. This was several years ago and I dealt with it though it was a hard time. Now this last year it has been back to stay awhile again. No small visit but a long stay awhile.
Then I was younger less injured. Still my old habits of running and skiing and so forth did not help. It is some thing that has a grim life of its own and it takes hold and you eventually know its got you.
I am finally tired enough to sleep with this knee. Hope all is well. What do they call it there when you finish your apprenticeship? Here in Alaska they call it "turning out". I did an electrical apprenticeship. The hearing was a problem of course but it was no hiding it at all. I enjoyed some camaradry with the guys you bet but the days of me drinking had passed by the end of my apprenticeship.

Erm I don't think we have a term for when we "finish" an apprenticeship, it's just simply moving on into employment.
 
That's creepy.. You just described everything I'm going through now.

I don't think I truly understand the deaf culture since I've always been mainstream. As stupid as it sounds I've always tried to "hide" my disability by not asking people to repeat what they said or not asking someone to speak up, I just can't get past that sense of shame that I attribute to my lack of hearing.

I think I hid it that well that people almost expect me to keep up with everything, and I can't.
I've had friends and family scream at me cos they think I'm ignoring them and I'm just thinking "Are you ****ing serious...? I'm deaf!"

That was me more than 15 years ago.
 
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