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Something just happen recently....sucks!!!

One of my desktop, a high performance $2500 machine, I have Raid 1 drive installed since day one. Well, my first Raid drive just died and the second one is fine. So I decided to go ahead buy another HD and replaced the damage HD. So, I just shut down the computer, remove the broken HD and insert the new one. Then I booted up my machine... suddenly saw the bar going across the screen stalled half way for like about minutes. Usually it's real quick going across the bar but this time it stalled. Then, finally it moved and got an error message said.."No bootable device"... wwwwhhhaaat!! So, I rebooted again and get into BIOS setting and check the HD setting....oh shit... my second hard drive no longer recognized by the BIOS!!! It disappear!! Only my first HD show up on BIOS but nothing on SECOND one!! Foooookkkk!!! So, I thought maybe my SATA cable came loose.. nope, I check the power...nope cuz I can hear the HD turning and read/write Head buzzed. f**CK F**CK F**ck..motherf**cking sh*t...

Ok ok..I'm calm...So, I thought maybe I should try on other machine...

f***CK!

Sigh... So, obviously the PCB is shot.. So, I know it's recoverable... and I have external HD as a back up but not for the last 2 or 3 months of works...
Sigh.... So, I did lot of research and found this website..

Hard Drive Parts

Cool! So, I order it..... have to wait for about 2 Weeks or less.

Keeping my fingers crosses.. I'll post an update of how it goes....

Edited: LOL, I noticed the link says "How people say about us", so I modify it to make it appropriate link name.
 
Just so you know... replacing the PCB doesn't mean you are going to have instant access to your information... there may be some logical damage to the information... there may be some physical damage to the drive... also... was your raid 1 configured in a fault tolerant way? are the two drives identical in size and manufacturer (manufacturer is less important than size)... there could be many reasons why this is happening... don't just assume automatically that it is the pcb
 
Yes, I'm aware of that. Just to let you know I work with computer technology for over 30 years. From my prognosis, I have great deal of experience about HD firmware and HD PCB. I'm just doing all possible options before sending to HD recovery service. I just mailed my damage PCB to DataPro to have them do the firmware transfer to new PCB because every PCB have different calibration for each HD. We can't just simply buy a new HD PCB and install it to broken HD, it won't work that way. The firmware from original PCB need to be transfer to new PCB.

Also, if nothing show up on the BIOS, meaning that BIOS unable to detect the name of the HD or spec, possible meaning that the firmware chip the board itself is f**ckup. Or sometime if you do see the HD name in the BIOS but get error like 0 BSY, it could be bad firmware or read/write head is bad. So, MY gut feeling that it's the PCB is bad. Also, from hearing the HD read/write head.. the rhythm of the motion during the boot up sounded pretty common, it's not like head making all the rattle crashing sound. You know from hearing all kind of HD sounds for 30 years... it's like I can decipher the sound of the HD if it's normal or not.
 
I fix computers too... so yes I understand what you are saying... though I do that more by touch... Its just good to know that you know enough to that it isn't necessarily going to be the PCB. Its nice knowing that other people are smart enough to realize this too... I've had too many people think that just replacing the one component would fix everything... and ended up causing more damage because they either replaced the board wrong, or they damaged another component while doing it.
 
SneakerNet said:
Yes, I'm aware of that. Just to let you know I work with computer technology for over 30 years. From my prognosis, I have great deal of experience about HD firmware and HD PCB. I'm just doing all possible options before sending to HD recovery service. I just mailed my damage PCB to DataPro to have them do the firmware transfer to new PCB because every PCB have different calibration for each HD. We can't just simply buy a new HD PCB and install it to broken HD, it won't work that way. The firmware from original PCB need to be transfer to new PCB.

Also, if nothing show up on the BIOS, meaning that BIOS unable to detect the name of the HD or spec, possible meaning that the firmware chip the board itself is f**ckup. Or sometime if you do see the HD name in the BIOS but get error like 0 BSY, it could be bad firmware or read/write head is bad. So, MY gut feeling that it's the PCB is bad. Also, from hearing the HD read/write head.. the rhythm of the motion during the boot up sounded pretty common, it's not like head making all the rattle crashing sound. You know from hearing all kind of HD sounds for 30 years... it's like I can decipher the sound of the HD if it's normal or not.
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over 30 years and you still suck with computer.
 
SneakerNet said:
Something just happen recently....sucks!!!

One of my desktop, a high performance $2500 machine, I have Raid 1 drive installed since day one. Well, my first Raid drive just died and the second one is fine. So I decided to go ahead buy another HD and replaced the damage HD. So, I just shut down the computer, remove the broken HD and insert the new one. Then I booted up my machine... suddenly saw the bar going across the screen stalled half way for like about minutes. Usually it's real quick going across the bar but this time it stalled. Then, finally it moved and got an error message said.."No bootable device"... wwwwhhhaaat!! So, I rebooted again and get into BIOS setting and check the HD setting....oh shit... my second hard drive no longer recognized by the BIOS!!! It disappear!! Only my first HD show up on BIOS but nothing on SECOND one!! Foooookkkk!!! So, I thought maybe my SATA cable came loose.. nope, I check the power...nope cuz I can hear the HD turning and read/write Head buzzed. f**CK F**CK F**ck..motherf**cking sh*t...

Ok ok..I'm calm...So, I thought maybe I should try on other machine...

f***CK!

Sigh... So, obviously the PCB is shot.. So, I know it's recoverable... and I have external HD as a back up but not for the last 2 or 3 months of works...
Sigh.... So, I did lot of research and found this website..

Hard Drive Parts

Cool! So, I order it..... have to wait for about 2 Weeks or less.

Keeping my fingers crosses.. I'll post an update of how it goes....

Edited: LOL, I noticed the link says "How people say about us", so I modify it to make it appropriate link name.
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Did you forgot the jumper settings on the HD?
 
SneakerNet said:
Yeah, I did try jumper from my truck battery to HD.
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He has a legitimate question. There are jumpers and jumper pins on back of the harddrives.

Sometimes if the pin is set as a slave - Bios will never detect it as primary hence not booting off it.
 
^^^^ YEAH

Real answer is that SATA do provide jumper setting, the only purpose for this is transfer rate speed. Some of the newer SATA controller now can handle 3GB transfer speed, then you can move the jumper to correct setting. If you have older model SATA controller, then leave it as by factory default.

That is all.
 
SneakerNet said:
^^^^ YEAH

Real answer is that SATA do provide jumper setting, the only purpose for this is transfer rate speed. Some of the newer SATA controller now can handle 3GB transfer speed, then you can move the jumper to correct setting. If you have older model SATA controller, then leave it as by factory default.

That is all.
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Oh right, I forget about transfer rate speed. I am agreed with you. I don't know why someone said that SATA use jumper for master/slave.

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It is not just jumper setting. :aw:
 
HD Update

When I finally got new PCB with firmware transfer....I test it out and that failed. 50 bucks gone... oh well. I was little disappointed, then my wife mentioned about all the valuable pix that I took during the Susan G. Komen Race for Cure in the last 3 years, and the recent summer Komen Race for Cure was the largest picture I ever taken, with full groups of people cheering on and such. Then I decided not to give up, I sent my HD to recovery specialist. They finally recovered all the files off of the HD.
I secretly told them to go ahead and put it on external portable HD. Total cost is $850.00. Then on Christmas day, when my wife open her present, she was puzzled at first because she only see small metal black box and when she flip it over, she suddenly saw a pix of herself with "Ginger's Friends" (pix below). She immediately said, "You Got it!!!" She jump up and gave me a big hugs.
You know, how many women have died from breast cancer and how many women fight for survival. Those picture are priceless, why should I give up on this old HD, you know? I'm not going to give up all those priceless smiles after a successful run. So, it's worth spending $850 as part of donation to get it recovered. Now that many people who saw my pix that we sent out, they love it and very happy. I also send a pix to her dear friend Ginger after a long waited rumor and she was also so happy to see all the beautiful pictures... she said it's precious.
 

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wow that is cost expensive worst pretty! spending whoa unbelieve it! jeez! expensive! lots of expensive? someonebody broken ?
 
Smithtr said:
wow that is cost expensive worst pretty! spending whoa unbelieve it! jeez! expensive! lots of expensive? someonebody broken ?
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No, it just that my secondary HD used as a backup. Me being a photographer, I have thousand of pictures from various events. I have been backing up from 2nd HD drive to first HD. Then recently I haven't backed up since end of last summer and some how my secondary HD just quit. All my valuable pictures are on 2nd HD. So, that is how the story began.
 
If the PCB having problem. I would do is to reset BIOS, wiggle and jiggle RAM memory on slot without removing it, and unplug/plug and wiggle the power jack to PCB. It works like a charm every time when PC freeze during bootups. I noticed on old PCB, power supply jack are the issue. It lose the connection over the time due to dust and tarnish ect. I check temperature on power jack plugged to PCB, some spot seem a little warm/hot because electrical current not flowing through jack connection well. That's why resetting Power jack every now and then helps alot. I have 450 watt power supply which is more than enough for the old AMD 939 Althon 2.2 Ghz system running on Windows XP. If I get Asus 939 motherboard, I would have upgrade to Windows 7 and also swap out to Dual Core 939 processor. The current mobo I have was $5 Emachine from Ebay and reflashed BIOS to MicroStar BIOS. It works better and faster than stock Emachine BIOS. That old system was for my son only. He's very happy with it cuz it have 512mb GeForce GT9400 PCIe graphic card. Online Games ran smoothly.


SATA hdd supposed to have automatic assignment for Master and Slave. I had no issue with it. Also double check BIOS to be sure if it's set to RAID or Mirroring (one PCB I came across have those) if you are using it. SATA power jacks sometime pop loose. You'll have to plug in and wiggle it to be sure it's set correctly so is SATA cable too. Happens to my SATA CDrom Drive and I plugged everything in and BIOS didn't recognize it. I decide to investigate and found out that SATA power cable just popped little out because I plugged SATA power first then SATA cable last due to space problem. I wiggle and jiggle it in and powered it up, finally BIOS recognized it.

I've noticed that SATA jacks are somewhat flaky and easily pop loose on PC. On Laptop, it's impressive that it clicks and locks (Both Windows Laptop and MAC ). So That's my suggestion

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