A Question For Homosexuals

jillio said:
Maybe because others just don't give a damn what you have to say? Or maybe they are waiting for you to answer because they have the same questions as I do.

Oops. Should have checked DD's response first, lol.
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Maybe they don't give a damn to respond, either, to yours. Maybe the see it as dealing with a brick wall.
 
Daredevel7 said:
It didn't occur to you that other people simply don't care enough to respond? Or maybe they didn't think your post warrants a response?

No response doesn't always mean they get it or they agree with you.
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jillio said:
Maybe because others just don't give a damn what you have to say? Or maybe they are waiting for you to answer because they have the same questions as I do.

Oops. Should have checked DD's response first, lol.
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or maybe they don't want to get into an argument with an unreasonable person. :P
 
Jiro said:
I'm not sure how to describe the sign but it's like this - (to put it crudely) a "fag hand".

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well - it's controversial at best but IMO - you can be born gay because of genetic flaw that makes you gay.

but if not, yes you can become gay by choice. It's all about how open you are. It's just like a heterosexual man preferring to date BBW (Big Beautiful Woman) over thin woman.


lol! funny question to ask but I think it's pretty obvious, right? :hmm:


as TheWriteAlex said - does it matter? :) everybody (including heterosexual) acts the way they act. They may look eccentric, weirdo, nervous, etc.
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This is a bad view. You're acting like those who say that being born deaf is due to a genetic flaw.
 
TheOracle said:
This is a bad view. You're acting like those who say that being born deaf is due to a genetic flaw.
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Didja know that dimples are actually a birth defect? Aren't "flaws" really in the eye of the beholder?
 
So the tiny dimple in my chin is a birth defect, eh. What about the dimples above your butt? I see a lot of people have them and so do I.
 
Berry said:
Not wanting children would be another. A young man cannot trust a woman who says she is on birth control pills because a lot of them lie -- They figure the best way to get a man is to trap him by default.
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If a man doesn't want children and doesn't trust the woman he's dating/sleeping with not to lie to him, 1) that's one hell of a fucked up relationship, and 2) guys can get a vasectomy to take birth control into their own hands.

rolling7 said:
#1...you must bury yourself into too much medical projects and have not kept up with all the "women" magazines on the market...they all have a section about how women feel about men.
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No, they have lots of sections on what sells to women who buy their magazines. What you're looking at is sampling bias.

Daredevel7 said:
Ahh... yes yes. Now I remember. It was definitely you. However, I was wrong when I said that you thought it was "wrong". I should have said that you thought it was detrimental. You compared homosexuality behavior to actions that cause body harm. I am not sure why. Do you believe that all gay people are into S&M? ;)
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Properly conducted S&M isn't harmful, either. That's what safe words and the like are for. ;)

rolling7 said:
No, I don't. But you can not tell me there are not consequences of sexual activities....be it hetro- or homosexuals. In all situations the individual alone must care the burden of the consequences.
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Since you seem to think a lack of responses is an acceptance of your point... what "consequences" are you talking about? The primary three mentioned are pregnancy, STDs and emotional trauma.

Pregnancy is certainly a valid issue, but isn't the case with homosexual activities (and if you think it is, then you need a class in basic anatomy). For heterosexual activities, it's simply one important reason why teaching people about methods of contraception and safe sex is important.

STDs are an issue for everyone, but again, is an issue of sex education.

Emotional trauma has been widely discredited, and there have been studies showing that people who choose to participate in casual sex are less stressed and happier than those who choose not to.

If there are any other "consequences", feel free to share.

rolling7 said:
So in your opinion a teenage les. never has gotten pregnant. What a joke of the day.
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Not from lesbian activities. So basically, you're saying that homosexuals need to be careful in case they accidentally slip up and have heterosexual sex? That doesn't even make the remotest bit of sense.

rolling7 said:
Never said she did. But she has the consequences to consider.
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Again, which?

rolling7 said:
Always you are the only one, everyone else gets it. You see anyone else posting a ? or ! about my post?
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Nobody else is because you appear to be a flaming nitwit. Jillio likes responding to anyone who addresses her, and I like arguing, which is why the two of us are the primary people calling you out.

deafskeptic said:
Lol... so they're birth defects? I hadn't known that.
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Presumably, everything that is a mutation from the originally joined parental DNA is a "birth defect", unless that's merely referring to developmental abnormalities. Genetics and development are all very complex topics, though.
 
The consequences depend on the individual. Example: 14 year old hetro girl get pg.,look at the $$$ and education problem. 14 year old les gets pg. (and if you don't think this happens..... and I do know how it happens!...you are more confused than the girl) same probles as above but in addition confusion about herself (remember she is 14!!!) You can use all the VDs and STDs and etc. you want with hetros but don't tell me it is not possible for the homos to get them too.....those are the consequences I am speaking of. Why, just post it here if you have the guts!, does the public have to bear the consequences of the individual actions? If you say the public does NOT, then Washington really loves you because you do NOT know where your money is going.
 
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rolling7 said:
The consequences depend on the individual. Example: 14 year old hetro girl get pg.,look at the $$$ and education problem. 14 year old les gets pg. (and if you don't think this happens..... and I do know how it happens!...you are more confused than the girl) same probles as above but in addition confusion about herself (remember she is 14!!!) You can use all the VDs and STDs and etc. you want with hetros but don't tell me it is not possible for the homos to get them too.....those are the consequences I am speaking of. Why, just post it here if you have the guts!, does the public have to bear the consequences of the individual actions? If you say the public does NOT, then Washington really loves you because you do NOT know where your money is going.
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Okay, let's break this down a bit:

1) If there are 14 year old girls getting pregnant, the clear response is... more and better sex education, especially with teaching on contraception.

2) Explain, please, how a lesbian gets herself pregnant? Of note - lesbian means "a female who is only romantically interested in other females". It doesn't mean "two girls who like to kiss each other before they both have sex with a guy". Porn does not teach you about real life.

3) Even assuming we're talking about a bisexual, rather than homosexual person, the reasonable response is better sex education. For everyone. Additionally, assuming you don't think 14 year old girls should be giving birth and raising children, then there's a valid medical procedure to stop that course of action, and is far less costly in the long run than pregnancy, birth and raising a child, both to an individual and to society as a whole.

4) What the hell is this word salad? I don't even know what you're going on and on about now. Nobody's claiming that homosexuals have less STDs than heterosexuals, though I am claiming that there are far less consequences for either than you're implying.
 
rolling7 said:
The consequences depend on the individual. Example: 14 year old hetro girl get pg.,look at the $$$ and education problem. 14 year old les gets pg. (and if you don't think this happens..... and I do know how it happens!...you are more confused than the girl) same probles as above but in addition confusion about herself (remember she is 14!!!) You can use all the VDs and STDs and etc. you want with hetros but don't tell me it is not possible for the homos to get them too.....those are the consequences I am speaking of. Why, just post it here if you have the guts!, does the public have to bear the consequences of the individual actions? If you say the public does NOT, then Washington really loves you because you do NOT know where your money is going.
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.......Then your problem lies with 14 year old girls who have sex with guys regardless of what they call themselves (straight or lesbian). NOT gay people.

I don't even understand what is your point? Are you trying to make a point that homosexuals have consequences to deal with? Such as "being confused and having sex with the opposite sex and having a baby"? THOSE are the consequences that gay people have to deal with? Please tell me what's your point with this whole 14 year old lesbian getting pregnant babble? What does it have to do with consequences FOR gay people? It's a consequence alright, but do you believe it's a common occurrence among lesbians, or something?

By the way, a 14 year old girl who calls herself a lesbian but has sex with guys is confused ANYWAY, whether she is pregnant or not.
 
rolling7 said:
The consequences depend on the individual. Example: 14 year old hetro girl get pg.,look at the $$$ and education problem. 14 year old les gets pg. (and if you don't think this happens..... and I do know how it happens!...you are more confused than the girl) same probles as above but in addition confusion about herself (remember she is 14!!!) You can use all the VDs and STDs and etc. you want with hetros but don't tell me it is not possible for the homos to get them too.....those are the consequences I am speaking of. Why, just post it here if you have the guts!, does the public have to bear the consequences of the individual actions? If you say the public does NOT, then Washington really loves you because you do NOT know where your money is going.
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Show me a single solitary documented instance of a lesbian getting pregnant from engaging in same sex relations; not just a 14 year old lesbian, but in the entire population of homosexual people. It just does not happen.:roll: Biologically impossible.

Where is my money going? To cure homosexually contracted sexually transmitted disease? I think not.:laugh2: To raise the child of a homosexual union? I know not.

You are really out there, dude.:laugh2:
 
Did you people even see the word "example"? Sometimes I feel I'm dealing with sight impaired folks rather than hearing impaired.
The girl/woman could be of any age, I just made one up. My point is that it is possible, and I think it is the singer David Crosby who is famous for this, for a girl/woman, who has declared herself as being a lesbian, to experiment and get pg. I never said any such thing as two same-sex making a baby. I'm saying that same-sex relations can have negative consequences as well and as often as opposite-sex relations.
What I see from you people is that you are deflecting and avoiding this question: "Should the public be required to suffer the consequences of an individual's actions?"
Getting pg. could mean a lack of sex education and, if so, the parents or the individual, if adult, carry the total cost of this education, not the public.
The total cost for the baby (i.e. Roof over head, food, medicine, clothes, etc) is the responsibility of the individual. The consequences for the Daddy is 18 years of child support, the public should not have to pay one penny. The consequence for the Mommy is 18 years of caring for her baby, that is not always a negative but, when it is, the public never is responsible in any form nor shape.
Anyone who does not believe that the public is right now carrying a heavy burden of the consequences of individuals is someone with there head in the sand.
Food stamps..free breakfast/lunch at school..free day care..section 8 housing..and on-and-on we go.......these are all the burden of the public.
Ever notice the word "free" as in free health clinic is never free but paid by the public?
 
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