A cochlear implant did not work for this person.

[deafdyke]

Nothing new..I see numerous of children whose CIs do not work year after year. However, I do see some children with working CIs too.

Define "work" or "sucess"
One of the things that really makes me uncomfortable about CI is the way it's implied that every user will reach hoh functioning levels with it.
Yes, its VERY rare that there's absolutly positively no benifit whatsoever.
But how often do implanted kids and dhh as kids adults reach hoh listening levels with CI?
Yes, I know that many kids experiance improvement compared to HAs.......but that still doesn't mean that they still don't need intensive special educational interventions and support. It also doesn't mean that they aren't still behind compared to hearing kids.

 

[shel90]

Define "work" or "sucess"
One of the things that really makes me uncomfortable about CI is the way it's implied that every user will reach hoh functioning levels with it.
Yes, its VERY rare that there's absolutly positively no benifit whatsoever.
But how often do implanted kids and dhh as kids adults reach hoh listening levels with CI?
Yes, I know that many kids experiance improvement compared to HAs.......but that still doesn't mean that they still don't need intensive special educational interventions and support. It also doesn't mean that they aren't still behind compared to hearing kids.

Same definition as how HAs work for some and dont work for others.

 

[Pinky]

Yea, there are failures of the devices.

That is simple to replacement new device. (grins) If my CI device is not work then will go to audiologist to check it out what is matter with my ci device. She will answer the question. I won't give it up on my CI device. If it's not work and get a new device.

The hearing aids are not work for me very well. CI is working for me as well.

 

[shel90]

That is simple to replacement new device. (grins) If my CI device is not work then will go to audiologist to check it out what is matter with my ci device. She will answer the question. I won't give it up on my CI device. If it's not work and get a new device.

I have worked with children whose devices have failed. Most of the time, the parents dont want to put their children through surgery again. I dont know how often that happens else where.

My point is that these devices can and do fail so it is important that people keep that in mind.

 

[Pinky]

I have worked with children whose devices have failed. Most of the time, the parents dont want to put their children through surgery again. I dont know how often that happens else where.

My point is that these devices can and do fail so it is important that people keep that in mind.

My cousin got re-implant surgery because the device wasn't work. He got new device for free. Maybe your students' device didn't aware about warning of statics when they are play at recess with plastic slide.

 

[faire_jour]

I have worked with children whose devices have failed. Most of the time, the parents dont want to put their children through surgery again. I dont know how often that happens else where.

My point is that these devices can and do fail so it is important that people keep that in mind.

You know a lot of children whose devices have failed who do not get reimplanted?

How?

The failure rate is very low, and most kids get reimplanted, so how many could you have possibly seen?

 

[shel90]

You know a lot of children whose devices have failed who do not get reimplanted?

How?

The failure rate is very low, and most kids get reimplanted, so how many could you have possibly seen?

How do I know them? I met them for starters.

 

[somedeafdudefromPNW]

You know a lot of children whose devices have failed who do not get reimplanted?

How?

The failure rate is very low, and most kids get reimplanted, so how many could you have possibly seen?

You're asking a Teacher of the Deaf?

 

[shel90]

You're asking a Teacher of the Deaf?

 

[faire_jour]

Define "work" or "sucess"
One of the things that really makes me uncomfortable about CI is the way it's implied that every user will reach hoh functioning levels with it.
Yes, its VERY rare that there's absolutly positively no benifit whatsoever.
But how often do implanted kids and dhh as kids adults reach hoh listening levels with CI?
Yes, I know that many kids experiance improvement compared to HAs.......but that still doesn't mean that they still don't need intensive special educational interventions and support. It also doesn't mean that they aren't still behind compared to hearing kids.

I agree with this. I think the VAST majority of people with Ci`s get benefit. Not all can understand speech, but that doesn`t mean they "don`t work". They work fine, but different people get different levels.

I find it hard to believe that there are thosands of people to whom a CI has been useless. If it "doesn`t work" they would be equally profoundly deaf with it on as they are with it off.

 

[faire_jour]

So answer. Realistically, how many children have you seen have an internal failure and NOT get reimplanted?

 

[Frisky Feline]

i have seen a several people who did not get reimplanted. This is reality .

 

[shel90]

So answer. Realistically, how many children have you seen have an internal failure and NOT get reimplanted?

I lost track. I dont keep a journal. Been in the teaching field for over 10 years.

This is a big world out there. I have said that I didnt know how often that happens else where in my earlier post.

 

[shel90]

i have seen a several people who did not get reimplanted. That's reality .

Right..not just children but in adults too. Could be due to several factors and each case is probably due to different reasons.

 

[faire_jour]

How do I know them? I met them for starters.

I mean how is that possible. Failures are rare, and not reimplanting is even more rare.

 

[shel90]

I mean how is that possible. Failures are rare, and not reimplanting is even more rare.

Maybe they are rare in your experience.

 

[faire_jour]

Maybe they are rare in your experience.

The 11 year survival rate for implants is over 91%. That means failures are far from commonplace.

 

[shel90]

The 11 year survival rate for implants is over 91%. That means failures are far from commonplace.

Fine, dont believe me.

 

[faire_jour]

Fine, dont believe me.

It is simply math. Over 90% don't fail, so only 10% ever need replaced. So, even if a full half are children and half of them don't get reimplanted (which seems way too high to me), we are talking about 2.5%. That would make it uncommon.

 

[Phi4Sius]

shel90- Unfortunately, I'd have to agree with faire_jour. Certainly not knocking your experience, but the math doesn't lie. Even with your experience, you should be able to come up with a rough number - we're not asking for complete stats here. Just estimates. 20? 30? 60? Of what percentage of these were issues with: static electricity, the implant failing, or just not working upon implantation, indicating a malfunctioning internal unit? How many of these were failures due to the child not going in for regular mappings as required? During conversations with these children (and perhaps their parents as well) they would certainly express why the implant didn't work along with why they didn't get implanted, no, considering your profession?