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  1. Oceanbreeze

    Lucia Disturbed

    cause of death was suffocation. Long story short, her heating was broken in the apt and she was waiting for maintenance to fix it. To keep warm, she had turned on the burners on the gas stove. Unfortunately, the burners went out and she had fallen asleep. Since she was deaf and asleep, she...
  2. Oceanbreeze

    Lucia Disturbed

    She had hip and back problems.
  3. Oceanbreeze

    Lucia Disturbed

    She was never in a wheelchair. She actually tried to get one once due to her hip and back problems.
  4. Oceanbreeze

    Lucia Disturbed

    I don't post here much anymore, but I felt you all should know that Lucia Disturbed has died. She passed away in her sleep a week ago, and, her sister was notified when they found her body some time yesterday. If and when an obituary is posted, I will paste it to the thread. As some of you...
  5. Oceanbreeze

    "In-between"

    Don't assume what you don't know about me. My experiences with the Deaf go way beyond one child. I've actually seen what some of you are saying happens in the mainstream. I also never denied it doesn't happen. It does, but again, I have also said that I don't support the mainstream for all...
  6. Oceanbreeze

    "In-between"

    When I wrote "we", I meant her parents and extended family collectively. :)
  7. Oceanbreeze

    "In-between"

    No, my niece isn't deaf. But, my niece would befriend any child regardless of any difference. We raised this child to respect everyone. I wish I could say the same for some I've encountered here.
  8. Oceanbreeze

    "In-between"

    Unfortunately, just the one child. But, our community is intensely small.
  9. Oceanbreeze

    "In-between"

    So, why is everyone arguing with me like I'm the bad guy just because I'm hearing? Seems rather biased considering I'm saying the exact same thing as some others here.
  10. Oceanbreeze

    "In-between"

    Ofc, I'm not saying it's because of the mainstream. You're missing the point that I don't support oral only. I never have, so I guess the question becomes why are you arguing with me? I don't support the oral only route for the deaf/hoh. I never have, and that hasn't changed, so again, you're...
  11. Oceanbreeze

    "In-between"

    This child has done well, because, she had/has the best of both worlds. This child can function well with just ASL or she can function well using speech if she chooses. That is what I support. The use of both.
  12. Oceanbreeze

    "In-between"

    I'm not offended or upset. *shrug*
  13. Oceanbreeze

    "In-between"

    If people want to take what I said and apply it to themselves, that's on them. It just proves the point I've been making all along. I've not disrespected anyone other than to say that bitterness and anger permeates this forum. I say that because it does. Bitterness and anger is also no way to...
  14. Oceanbreeze

    "In-between"

    Attacked? No one attacked you. I merely pointed out that there's a lot of bitterness on this forum and there is.
  15. Oceanbreeze

    "In-between"

    Because, I know where this child lived; in my area. There are NO deaf schools where I live. There is only mainstream education; albeit a much smaller population than a larger city school would be. That's how I know. As I said, I've known this child since Kindergarten. Nobody is advocating...
  16. Oceanbreeze

    "In-between"

    DD is also mixing apples and oranges as she often does. I am not. I am discussing programs that live up to educational standards for ALL students. I also am NOT discussing just in the mainstream. Why in the world would you want to send a deaf child to a school; program, whatever, if that...
  17. Oceanbreeze

    "In-between"

    Which is the minority. The majority of students should be able to compete with typically hearing people. If the school can't provide that, then the parents NEEDS to look elsewhere! As for mentally disabled children, I agree with you. For those children, a self contained environment is...
  18. Oceanbreeze

    "In-between"

    Where do you get that? If you can't compare to regular ed, it does no good! You have to have a standard of excellence. One can't compare a school to one that is mediocre or worse. That's like saying, "Well, they both suck, but this school over here is closer to me, so I guess I'll enroll Jr...
  19. Oceanbreeze

    "In-between"

    Since when does having a 3rd or fourth grade education cut it? It doesn't. That's for ANY school, btw. In today's world, one must possess a high school diploma or equivalancy to even get a job. In a lot of places, if you have less than a bachelor's degree, you're screwed. So, yeah, the...
  20. Oceanbreeze

    "In-between"

    I'm neutral. Just because I'm not beating the drumbeat for ASL only doesn't mean I don't see the necessity of it for language aquisition. I know very well that if a child doesn't have the exposure of a 1st language, they will undoubtedly be delayed in aquiring ANY language. However, I also...
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