First of all, my apologizes for my harsh comments toward some Bushies around here. That is totally unnecessary, I was venting my frustrations & angers at you... That will never happen again. Again, I am sorry for that.
Anyway, I want to ask some republicans/evangelical christians/Bushies/faith-based community around here. I am trying to figure out about your 'moral values'. What does your moral values mean? What about your family values? Care to share about yours? I just had an hour chat with few college professors recently and it just hit us about Bushies' odd "moral values". I decided to ask some of you to clear up with me if you can or if you want to. So I probably can understand your 'moral values' better and why you people insists that moral values is far important than economy, women's rights & civil rights. I am ex-christian, I decided to resign for good reasons. I rather to believe in God & Jesus (do you know that Jesus was a liberal!?) based on 'practice what you preach' philosophy. Anyway here's verses & questions that I truly want to know about yours.
In Exodus 21:7, does it mean that if I have a daughter, do I have moral right to sell my daughter into slavery and make some money out of that? Is that what your moral value means?
In Leviticus 25:4, it stated that I may indeed possess slaves, both male & females, provided they are purchased from neightboring nations. But odd thing is that it was applied to black (well, we did brought them into America from Africa for slavery after all, right?) and mexicans but not Canadians? If not then why not? Care to elaborate about that one?
In Exodus 35:2, does it mean that I can kill anyone who works on Sunday? I see many people working in Target, Yum-Yum, In-N-Out, Wal-Mart, list going on.. Is it morally correct for me to kill them because they are working on Sunday? That is totally sin! Right? If not then why not?
In Leviticus 15:19-24, I know that I am not allowed to contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness but the problem is.. how do I tell? If I ask them and women surely will take offence. So how do I know?
In Leviticus 19:27, I realize that many male people get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples.. If you read Lev. 19:27, you will know thus that is expressly forbidden! So does it mean I will have to stone, stab or kill them too? If not, how should they die?
In Leviticus 24:19, since Bush invaded Iraq, a country that does not have WMD, does it mean that Iraq or other countries will attack him included us too?
In Leviticus 24:11-16, Bush gave a 'middle-finger' gesture to TV and Cheney once or twice said 'Fuck yourself' to the mass. Does it mean that we need to stone, stab or punish them for cursed? If not, why not?
In Malachi 2:11-16, it clearly states that God hates divorce. So why are the divorce rate among professing Christians higher than the unbelieving world while the divorce rate among Mass liberals is lowest? Is all that talk about "family values" is just that -- talk? If not, care to explain about these higher divorce rate?
In Leviticus 20:9, does it mean that our parents will have to kill, smite or beat us when we gave them our smartass comments? If not, why not?
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I have many more about these verses included homosexual issues but will hold it until later. I want to ask you one more thing before close this post, I don't understand why Bushies ranted that they have family values while we, liberals do not. Let me give you the examples:
Serial killer/rapist Ted Bundy campaigned for the Republican Party
Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.
Republican activist Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges.
Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.
Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.
Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a minor working as a congressional page.
Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.
Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with a juvenile and one count of delivering the drug LSD.
Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks, an advisor to a California assemblyman, was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.
Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.
Republican preacher Stephen White was arrested after allegedly offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
Republican talk show host Jon Matthews of Houston was indicted for indecency with a child, including exposing his genitals to a girl under the age of 17.
Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling confessed to molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.
Republican Party leader Paul Ingram of Thurston County, Washington, pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.
Republican St. Louis Election Board official Kevin Coan was arrested and charged with trying to buy sex from a 14-year-old girl whom he met on the Internet.
Republican politician Andrew Buhr, former committeeman for Hadley Township Missouri, was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.
Republican politician Keith Westmoreland, a Tennessee state representative, was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to minors under 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).
Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was charged with sexual misconduct involving a 15 year old girl.
Republican legislator, Richard Gardner, a Nevada state representative, admitted to molesting his two daughters.
Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.
Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.
Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.
Anyone can see that most republicans are obsessed with pedophillia, rape, torture, and an endless variety of illegal, unconcentual and frightening sexuality. According to one of professor pal of mine (who is old traditional republican) that was only small fraction of over hundreds of 'family values-based' republicans criminals.
So based on these lists, does that mean we will have to rape, torture or molest our kids or any kid to obtain these family values? We are confused about that part. Care to explain what does your family value mean? It is an honest and innocent question. Thank you!
Anyway, I want to ask some republicans/evangelical christians/Bushies/faith-based community around here. I am trying to figure out about your 'moral values'. What does your moral values mean? What about your family values? Care to share about yours? I just had an hour chat with few college professors recently and it just hit us about Bushies' odd "moral values". I decided to ask some of you to clear up with me if you can or if you want to. So I probably can understand your 'moral values' better and why you people insists that moral values is far important than economy, women's rights & civil rights. I am ex-christian, I decided to resign for good reasons. I rather to believe in God & Jesus (do you know that Jesus was a liberal!?) based on 'practice what you preach' philosophy. Anyway here's verses & questions that I truly want to know about yours.
In Exodus 21:7, does it mean that if I have a daughter, do I have moral right to sell my daughter into slavery and make some money out of that? Is that what your moral value means?
In Leviticus 25:4, it stated that I may indeed possess slaves, both male & females, provided they are purchased from neightboring nations. But odd thing is that it was applied to black (well, we did brought them into America from Africa for slavery after all, right?) and mexicans but not Canadians? If not then why not? Care to elaborate about that one?
In Exodus 35:2, does it mean that I can kill anyone who works on Sunday? I see many people working in Target, Yum-Yum, In-N-Out, Wal-Mart, list going on.. Is it morally correct for me to kill them because they are working on Sunday? That is totally sin! Right? If not then why not?
In Leviticus 15:19-24, I know that I am not allowed to contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness but the problem is.. how do I tell? If I ask them and women surely will take offence. So how do I know?
In Leviticus 19:27, I realize that many male people get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples.. If you read Lev. 19:27, you will know thus that is expressly forbidden! So does it mean I will have to stone, stab or kill them too? If not, how should they die?
In Leviticus 24:19, since Bush invaded Iraq, a country that does not have WMD, does it mean that Iraq or other countries will attack him included us too?
In Leviticus 24:11-16, Bush gave a 'middle-finger' gesture to TV and Cheney once or twice said 'Fuck yourself' to the mass. Does it mean that we need to stone, stab or punish them for cursed? If not, why not?
In Malachi 2:11-16, it clearly states that God hates divorce. So why are the divorce rate among professing Christians higher than the unbelieving world while the divorce rate among Mass liberals is lowest? Is all that talk about "family values" is just that -- talk? If not, care to explain about these higher divorce rate?
In Leviticus 20:9, does it mean that our parents will have to kill, smite or beat us when we gave them our smartass comments? If not, why not?
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I have many more about these verses included homosexual issues but will hold it until later. I want to ask you one more thing before close this post, I don't understand why Bushies ranted that they have family values while we, liberals do not. Let me give you the examples:
Serial killer/rapist Ted Bundy campaigned for the Republican Party
Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.
Republican activist Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges.
Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.
Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.
Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a minor working as a congressional page.
Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.
Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with a juvenile and one count of delivering the drug LSD.
Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks, an advisor to a California assemblyman, was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.
Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.
Republican preacher Stephen White was arrested after allegedly offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
Republican talk show host Jon Matthews of Houston was indicted for indecency with a child, including exposing his genitals to a girl under the age of 17.
Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling confessed to molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.
Republican Party leader Paul Ingram of Thurston County, Washington, pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.
Republican St. Louis Election Board official Kevin Coan was arrested and charged with trying to buy sex from a 14-year-old girl whom he met on the Internet.
Republican politician Andrew Buhr, former committeeman for Hadley Township Missouri, was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.
Republican politician Keith Westmoreland, a Tennessee state representative, was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to minors under 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).
Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was charged with sexual misconduct involving a 15 year old girl.
Republican legislator, Richard Gardner, a Nevada state representative, admitted to molesting his two daughters.
Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.
Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.
Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.
Anyone can see that most republicans are obsessed with pedophillia, rape, torture, and an endless variety of illegal, unconcentual and frightening sexuality. According to one of professor pal of mine (who is old traditional republican) that was only small fraction of over hundreds of 'family values-based' republicans criminals.
So based on these lists, does that mean we will have to rape, torture or molest our kids or any kid to obtain these family values? We are confused about that part. Care to explain what does your family value mean? It is an honest and innocent question. Thank you!
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