What is your view to gothic ppl?

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Just curious...

I dont mind to hear any information that you think about gothic stories/clothes/and more..

negative comments about gothic would be fine with me..


whatever came up in your mind about gothic, please share with us!
 
Because I have almost no experience with this/these people, the first word that comes to my mind is, "weird".
 
what kind of weird?
Weird as in weird-looking in dress and hair-do.

weird for trying to be themselves?

Remember, I said, I have no experience with them so as for trying to be themselves, I don't know what you mean. Do they have a values system? What is it? What is it that they believe in, what is the central thing that binds them as a group? Tell me....
 
Gothic clothing was once a really big trend in Oklahoma and in Kansas. One of my bestfriends was into the goth scene. There is nothing wrong with goth, just a style, and a belief, a little more daring than myself.
 
Gothic clothing was once a really big trend in Oklahoma and in Kansas. One of my bestfriends was into the goth scene. There is nothing wrong with goth, just a style, and a belief, a little more daring than myself.

I'm not understanding this. What's a style? What's the belief and it's daring?
 
Remember, I said, I have no experience with them so as for trying to be themselves, I don't know what you mean. Do they have a values system? What is it? What is it that they believe in, what is the central thing that binds them as a group? Tell me....

well there are many different kind of groups..
some goth are just for romance..
or for stupid reason such as satan.. worship devil (alot goth ppl dont do that)
or some are into just for music..
or hate prep clothes..
there are many reasons just like the reasons why you wear and why u act..

Sometime I wear black clothes.. Some ppl were confusing that if I'm really gothic or punk but I'm not any of them..

But I admire goth ppl :D
 
I'm not understanding this. What's a style? What's the belief and it's daring?

style can be such as wearing spike collar or else.. you get the idea..
belief - any kind.. mostly are christian (sp?), wiccan, and else..
daring - umm not really.. most I know arent into daring..

edit: oh i remember now.. daring.. some believe that goth ppl are more daring because they arent afraid to show off what they wear in public.. something like that.. if that not what you mean then it is depend on what your point of view of daring..
 
I think they are cool and had some of friends that are gothic. I knew some of their reasons to wear too much blacks, I was told it's because they want the children to scare away from them so that the children won't annoy them and make the adult reject them so that they can have more freedom on their own, and also I was told it's because of their musical culture and their beliefs.
 
i love black clothes.. but that doesnt make me goth. LOL.. my niece wear black clothes, dyed her hairs black and wear black lipstick and black polish on her nails so possibly that she is a goth. i didnt asked her if she is in those but look like she is? I dont know.. but if thats the case then i respect her as it is her business as long as she stay out of trouble then im happy. :D
 
I think it is a creative way of expressing one's self. As long as nobody is hurting themselves or others, it is cool.
 
I think it is a creative way of expressing one's self. As long as nobody is hurting themselves or others, it is cool.

That's exactly what I was going to say. It's not really all that different from a guy who chooses to grow his hair very long (which is not exactly the norm) or a girl who shaves her head (again not exactly the norm). It may be that gothics also have a different set of beliefs from others, but so does everyone else. Not everyone on this earth has the exact same belief. If gothics choose to creatively express themselves in the clothing/black they wear, so be it. Who are we to judge what others wear and believe? Just my thoughts ..
 
doesnt matter what they are. As long they give respect to us and they should deserve to get our respect back too. There is nothing wrong with it, just want to be different separate from inside of the cliques.

Judge them is make us looks stupid and fools. No judge on them is make us courtesy and respect. Is that simple? I think not for what people think or missed inside of their personality. I think we know the old saying of quote, "Dont judge on the cover".

One time, i went to mall and saw gothics group with their own style. I told them, "That's cool colors on your hairs and creative hairdos" they are chuckling and hand wave in the class act. They (people) will think they're stupid or so called gang. Its not class act. Just leave them alone and let them to do their own business, not ours.

I have one fella who is gothic but BRILLANT kid. He is amazing at english because he read the books everyday. He doesnt care what we think and let us to be stupid to judge. Now, he's teaching english (yes, some of people stunned and gulped) and apperciated me for being a friend and respect. I do see him in once a while to hanging out at bar.
 
ive never judged by looks or people trying to express themselves fashionably, and so i have had the opportunity to talk to a few people over the years and really some of em are extrememely intelligent people.
 
They're awesome. ;) I was used to be a beatnik gothic because I wore dark color clothes more than to wear black clothes and jeans. :)

Now, I'm not that person anymore anyway.
 
I had a friend from my first go around at college that was goth. I really wasnt prep or goth, but just a really laid back style - IE - A&F shirt, blue jeans, Doc Marten oxfords, and usually a long sleeve button up shirt worn over the t-shirt unbuttoned. Not really anything.

But he was cool and he thought I was cool because I was willing to listen to him and what have you not. Although he was 100% anti-Christian, a smoker, drinker, etc., he was on the honor roll, taking Honors courses, etc. We often had lunch together or just hung out together when I had a free night and we'd go for coffee, etc.

His belief was that people are too quick to judge based on assumptions and stereotypes. He wanted to buck the trend, wear what he wanted to wear, do what he wanted to do, and break the pre-set 'mold' of success. He wanted to succeed on HIS terms not anyone elses.

Last time I chatted with him he was packing his stuff and headed to Dallas for a year.

He had a big distaste for mainstream ideas, he really was one of those brilliant free-thinkers that you often hear about when reading about Greek history. There was a method to his 'madness'.

So far as I am concerned, I have no problem with goths. They are typically quiet and prefer to stay out of trouble. They make their statement with their clothes, hair, body, and attitude.

Not all goths are devil-worshipping juvenile delinquents. Some have a pagan belief system based on ancient druidism. There are Christian goths that dress in black clothes as a symbol of their dark human nature, but not all goths share that sort of doctrine.

But almost all goths share the music and messages in the music, defying common world attitudes and/or beliefs.

Much the same way super-Christians dress conservatively, and listen to Gospel or Contemporary Christian Music, to defy common worldly attiudes and/or beliefs.

Each group are polar opposites but their reasons for dressing and or acting the way they do is actually much the same.
 
It is mostly just a way to say "hey..look at me, I am different" or "I am rebelling against the norm, my parents, whoever" and it has been going on throughout history. Before goth there was punk, oh, and those scandalous rock 'n rollers, the beatniks and hippies, the bobbysocksers of the fifties..need I go on? It is all just a part of growing up, at least that is how I see it.
 
I wonder what would have happened if one of the Walton children ever decided to go gothic? :rofl:
 
so , does gothics tend to act out every aspects of 'anti-norm'? as Alleycat said "That's exactly what I was going to say. It's not really all that different from a guy who chooses to grow his hair very long (which is not exactly the norm) or a girl who shaves her head (again not exactly the norm)"

I also once had a conversation over a coffee with a goth at the local university he told me that the clothes he's wearing is 'modern' but back in the 17th century, it was considered modern, but then again I am not sure why he said that I mean like what is the point? < but for one thing I suspect,goths likes well-made clothes perhaps? something to ridicule capitaliism on clothing?

As for self-expression I'm not sure if i'd buy that, you get every imaginable sub-culture doing the wacky dress up for the some reason, to stand out from the mainstream. Put it more clearly, what is t exactly are they trying to self-express?, except a wish not to conform - can understand that but i cant help it, is it for a hollow cause?

but then, Dixie, posted this;
Not all goths are devil-worshipping juvenile delinquents. Some have a pagan belief system based on ancient druidism. There are Christian goths that dress in black clothes as a symbol of their dark human nature, but not all goths share that sort of doctrine.

But almost all goths share the music and messages in the music, defying common world attitudes and/or beliefs.

Dixie's post seems to be getting warmer in explaining what is the goth's attitude, now I'm curious; is Marilyn Mason actually gothic? or is it just gothics likes him but not really following him? I am just wondering.
 
I think that "Goth" is loosely defined. The same goes with "Emo". In fact, I think Emo is like Punk and Goth mixed together.

Either way, I don't care... as long as they don't push their attitude on me. I've seen some people go overboard with their Goth/Emo appearance that it totally turns me off. Sometimes, their hair gets all oily and they smell horrible. Sometimes, they use black eyeliner on their eyes and lips. Seriously, what are you trying to do... make us depressing?

I used to wear black clothes a lot when I was in high school. I would wear black jeans, black boots, black T-shirts, black leather jackets, black baseball caps, etc. Yet, I didn't wear those horrible makeup and I did bathe daily. So, I didn't smell bad. Some people thought I was Goth, but that was not my intention. I just happened to like wearing black. Even today, I like wearing black T-shirts because they go with anything. My work outfit is also all black. :)
 
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