What challenges will I face as a teacher?

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Okay, basic run down:

I have been considering becoming a Teacher of the Deaf ever since junior high when I was 13 or 14. I did not approve of what they did in the mainstream school. Why? It got to do a lot with my childhood. Read below. Skip if you want.

Background:
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Growing up, I was in a mainstream school. My parents encouraged me to associate with people from the Deaf community. I was taught ASL by my grandma's neighbour. The interpreter I had was trained in ASL. The teachers treated me as equal. I didn't learn how to speak until I was 8 and I was taught phonetics during speech therapy. Speech therapy was done in ASL, not SEE or PSE. I learned how to read and write English via ASL.

Just before junior high, or middle school as some of you may call it, my family moved to a city that has strong audist policy at their school, and it still does, and the Deaf community was or is largely segregated from the hearing world; I haven't visited my parents' city in awhile to know how the community is functioning there. No one in the school system knew ASL. They just knew SEE2 and cued speech. I was VERY confused, and when I signed, I was told that my signing was wrong and was corrected to format my sentences in English without the stupid grammar of SEE2. I was also expected to include cued speech. No one took the time to explain what SEE2 and cued speech was for. So in order to pass the classes, I relied heavily on reading since I couldn't really understand the "interpreters," well more like people who can transliterate, at all until I got a real interpreter in my last two years of high school.

Speech therapy was hell for me because we were trained to be like perfectionists. We were expected to say words without any errors. In therapy, we were told to sit still and be like almost... like soldiers? Hard to explain what the therapists expected. So my speech ability backslid under that program, and my mom was very angry about that. My speech was later restored when I went back to being taught phonetics when I got a real interpreter. I was not expected to say words properly, but to be able to make the proper sounds. And boy, there is a lot more phonetics than there are letters in the Latin and Greek alphabets combined.

I owe my success to that interpreter, and my grandmother who taught me how to read. However somewhere along the line, I stopped being "Deaf" and just became "deaf" since I didn't have much contact with the local Deaf community, if that makes any sense.

So I went to University of Alberta with a major in English literature and minor in History. I was planning to combine it with Education from the start. I tried to flaunt my signing skills whenever possible to keep my ASL strong. Then I messed up along the way due to deep depression and ended up in a completely different program which was very different than the direction I was heading without paying attention to what I was doing. :eek3::shock: Hint: I ended up in a zoology program.
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I am still very much angry about how I was raised in the education system and would like to change that. I understand the need for strong English skill, but I could had not learned English without ASL. So because of this, I am a strong supporter of BiBi, but is very much against audism or oralism.

And right now, I am seeing all these kids that never got the same foundations as I did, and are being pushed along the school because teachers figured that the government will take care of them and put them on disability or train them to perform less-than-desirable jobs. I know people of my own age that never seen real ASL before; it is still a culture shock to me to learn that there are deaf people out there that only had experience with SEE and or cued speech, which I still don't even understand how the MCE systems work. MCE systems are so backward conceptually, even with my strong English roots.

So, I can speak fine for the most part except I tend to flatten my vowels and I don't have too much emotional acoustics in my voice, so I can come across as monotonous from time to time. Fortunately, I am able to exploit it to deliver dry humor. I also have low vision, which I don't feel it impacts the quality of my life at all, but my vision does have more social stigma than my deafness does for some odd reason. :roll:

Anyway, I am considering going back to school to become a teacher again. What hurdles to overcome and loops am I expected to jump through by the school system, and possibly the government in Canada, if I was to become a Teacher of the Deaf?

Merci beacoup. :) I apologise for the extremely long and dull post, but I felt like I needed to explain my motivation for becoming a teacher.
 
Hey..I am angry with how I was raised in the educational system fully oral. I missed out on so much both in and out of the classrooms.

I am also a strong supporter of BiBi for the same reasons your posted. I agree with you about MCE systems.

I don't know how it works in the Canadian educational system but here in America, I was able to get my degrees in education without a problem. I did struggle with passing the teacher certification exam but after taking it again 4 times, I finally passed. That, I didn't expect!

Lots of mainstreaming programs in the USA are so screwed up. Hiring less than qualified terps, using inappropriate models of language to teach the kids, forbidding many children from exposure to ASL and the Deaf community, and teachers with no deaf ed training teaching deaf children with the wrong goals in mind.

I know one great mainstreamed program in Fairfax county, VA that has adopted the BiBi philisophy and it has been very successful. That's a mainstream program I would love to see in all schools that have deaf students.

When u become a teacher, the biggest challenge u might face is not having enough time during the day to complete all your duties so as a result, u may end up putting in long hours with no extra pay.

Hope that helps!
 
First of all, I want to give you a HUGE hug! :hug:

I think I may have gotten it a bit easier.

I was born Deaf into a Culturally Deaf family. [6 generations]

ASL was our language and we had Deaf Culture ingrained in our heritage.

My parents advocated Bi-Bi and mainstreamed my sisters & I with the philosophy that we were exposed to all kinds of teaching methodologies.

We really thrived because it was with the support of our parents and our educators.

The Deaf community did not support my parents' decision as back then Bi-Bi was not readily accepted however my parents persevered as they knew it would be the best outcome for our education.

Have you considered applying at George Brown College in Toronto, ON? They have a wonderful program that is taught only by Deaf professors to Deaf people.

I encourage you to check out this college and the program is called American Sign Language Literacy Instructor program. With ALIP - you are able to teach.
 
Thanks. I figures it would be best to ask the Americans, and maybe any Canadians, on the forum what to expect because I was told that if I decide to become a teacher, there will be a lot of prejudices to offset. Not necessary outright discrimination, but I would have to challenge a lot of people's beliefs. So I would like to know what is out there like for example: how high standards hearing people expect from deaf people who WANT to be taken seriously since I experienced that the standards are higher than normal hearing folks. :hmm: I don't really blame them though.

But yes, I do believe BiBi is the best way to go. I just feel horrible that there are so many deaf children out there that are struggling to get by. I feel bad that they didn't get the same support from their family that I have received. Actually, when I told a Deaf community that I wanted to be a teacher, not in a deaf school since they are declining big time here, they told me it was an pipe dream since no deaf adult could ever possibly teach at a mainstream school. :roll: Of course, when I went back to the community that I originated from, they supported my motivation. :laugh2:

So far, what I have found is that people view as discrimination is actually just crab theory politics, and the discrimination that actually do exist are a result of prejudices based on people's negative experiences with deaf people as well as misconceptions. I want to change that, even if I only save three or four kids in my lifetime and they went on to go to post-secondary and become the top minds in their field, then progress will be made. It will be slow, but social changes will be made.

Have you considered applying at George Brown College in Toronto, ON? They have a wonderful program that is taught only by Deaf professors to Deaf people.

I encourage you to check out this college and the program is called American Sign Language Literacy Instructor program. With ALIP - you are able to teach.

Thank you. :) I will look into that to find out what the ALIP program is all about. From skimming, it sounds like a certification program to teach ASL, but I am looking into it more indepth to see if my assumption is wrong. Either way, it wouldn't hurt to have under my belt. :D I have heard a lot of good things about the Brown college.

Lots of mainstreaming programs in the USA are so screwed up. Hiring less than qualified terps, using inappropriate models of language to teach the kids, forbidding many children from exposure to ASL and the Deaf community, and teachers with no deaf ed training teaching deaf children with the wrong goals in mind.

It is the same problem here as well. None of the teachers I had were qualified to be Deaf educators, but that was okay when I was a kid because I had strong support from the Deaf community and my friends. However when there don't have that support system in place, I find that I have to end up floundering to get by. When I had the support back in place during the last two years of high school, I started thriving again. I may not get every teachers to have some experience in signing that can interact with their students in ASL, but I can give students the support they need to keep going headstrong.

When u become a teacher, the biggest challenge u might face is not having enough time during the day to complete all your duties so as a result, u may end up putting in long hours with no extra pay.

I can understand that. A lot of teachers, who went to school to become a teacher initially, complained about that.
 
Hope you do go back to school to be a teacher and in the mainstream. My grandson's teacher is deaf and has an ADA interpreter. They recently tried to fire both due to budget cuts but the deaf community and our family faught the school board, and won. She has been a god send but the situation is by far from being perfect.

Unfortunately, the time may come when he will have to go to a residental school because all that he needs will not be available through the local school system, and sooner than we had hoped this may happen.
 
Hope you do go back to school to be a teacher and in the mainstream. My grandson's teacher is deaf and has an ADA interpreter. They recently tried to fire both due to budget cuts but the deaf community and our family faught the school board, and won. She has been a god send but the situation is by far from being perfect.

Unfortunately, the time may come when he will have to go to a residental school because all that he needs will not be available through the local school system, and sooner than we had hoped this may happen.

That is why I worry about when people talk about shutting down deaf schools...Will me and my deaf friends get a job working at the public schools? I have seen this kind of thing happen tooo often. I am so happy that you fought for this teacher's job...SHAME on the schools for putting money first over a child's education!
 
Unless the deaf across the country, in a join effort while putting aside their differences, take action then this fight will never end. Whether it is the right to be taught using ASL, have deaf role models in the schools, sit on a jury as all hearing citizens have the right and privilege to do, watch television or movies captioned, or whatever provides equal access to any situation then it will never happen. Slavery didn't end out of the kindness of the governments heart, and women didn't get the right to vote by staying at home and baking cookies. It only takes a moment and desire to get involved. You may not have noticed by politicians have more of a desire to cater to and protect illegal aliens than you and my family members.
 
Unless the deaf across the country, in a join effort while putting aside their differences, take action then this fight will never end. Whether it is the right to be taught using ASL, have deaf role models in the schools, sit on a jury as all hearing citizens have the right and privilege to do, watch television or movies captioned, or whatever provides equal access to any situation then it will never happen. Slavery didn't end out of the kindness of the governments heart, and women didn't get the right to vote by staying at home and baking cookies. It only takes a moment and desire to get involved. You may not have noticed by politicians have more of a desire to cater to and protect illegal aliens than you and my family members.

I agree. I also believe that the more educated deaf people there are that can hold a job, the more likely our voices will be heard. I might be able to change the world on my own, but I can definitely push the future generation toward a life they deserve.

Sitting around at home behind the computer won't accomplish anything.
 
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