What Causes “Old Person Smell”?

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Ever notice that your grandparents and their house had a dull, kind of sweet stink to them? You’re not alone. Old people really do have a chemically-distinct odor.

Like other body odors, this “old person smell” is produced when chemicals from the skin glands get broken down into small odorous molecules that waft away into the air. The specific chemical that gives old folks their unique odor, scientists suspect, is a compound called 2-nonenal. Created by the oxidative breakdown of other chemicals over time, it produces what’s described as an “unpleasant greasy and grassy odor” in people and is also responsible for some of the “cardboard” flavor of stale beer.

In 2000, Japanese researchers found that people’s concentration of 2-nonenal increased with age. They had 22 people, ranging in age from 26 to 75, wear odor-collecting shirts to bed for a few nights and then analyzed the molecules that adhered to the cloth. They found more 2-nonenal in the shirts worn by people over 40 years old than they did in the younger subjects. And in the over-40 crowd, the concentration of 2-nonenal increased significantly with age, with the oldest subject producing almost three times as much as the middle-aged subjects.

The researchers didn’t see any other odor compound increase with age like that, and think that the “deterioration of body odors” in the elderly, as they politely put it, can be pinned on 2-nonenal. But why does the compound increase as a person ages? The researchers also noted the presence of more omega-7 unsaturated fatty acids in the shirts worn by the older subjects, and think that the 2-nonenal comes from the breakdown of these fatty acid chains. The reason the fatty acids increase with age, meanwhile, is still unclear. The researchers speculate that it might be because of age-related changes to metabolism or changes in the amount of some other chemical in skin secretions.

Another big question still hanging in the air is what purpose, if any, an age-related change in smell serves. Humans and some non-human animals can tell the difference between older and younger individuals by smell, and some animals are known to be more attracted to the odor of older individuals and have more success mating as they age. One possible explanation for this is that older individuals may have some genetic advantage that allowed them to survive longer and makes them more attractive mates, and that distinct age-related odor is an advertisement for their genetic quality. It’s not clear that this is what actually happens, but if it is, it’s hard to imagine smell having much of an effect with humans when we place such high value on the physical attractiveness and other qualities of youth.

The fact that old person smell is usually thought of as unpleasant doesn’t seem to be a stumbling block here, though. Research subjects who didn’t know the source of the smell rated old person odors as less intense and less unpleasant than odors from younger people—suggesting that the smell on its own isn’t bad, but is perceived that way in certain contexts.

http://mentalfloss.com/article/51596/what-causes-old-person-smell
 
Great, something else for me to worry about in my old age. :(

Now I can not only offend younger people by repeating myself, moving slowly, and being boring, I can also offend them with my body odor.

. . . and don't say, "Age is only a number." :smash:
 
I've smelled the odor in several nursing homes and also in a Rehab center....it's something we have to deal with, regardless....most older ladies wear body powder, especially in between their breast bone. And the fact, the older we become, the less baths we take....Not becuz we don't want or dislike baths...it's just hard to get in and out, especially those with mobile problems.

One thing for sure!...I will not delude myself with Perfume....:giggle:
 
I've smelled the odor in several nursing homes and also in a Rehab center....it's something we have to deal with, regardless....most older ladies wear body powder, especially in between their breast bone. And the fact, the older we become, the less baths we take....Not becuz we don't want or dislike baths...it's just hard to get in and out, especially those with mobile problems.

One thing for sure!...I will not delude myself with Perfume....:giggle:

this is true......I associate lavender water or 9111 toilet water with old people....I think aslong as you keep your active bits clean should be ok
 
Great, something else for me to worry about in my old age. :(

Now I can not only offend younger people by repeating myself, moving slowly, and being boring, I can also offend them with my body odor.

. . . and don't say, "Age is only a number." :smash:

Anyone can have bad BO at any age . I had clients that were 102 yo and they had no BO. Bad BO can a sign of a health issues . I know someone that
had bad BO all their life and she never been very healthy .
 
Great, something else for me to worry about in my old age. :(

Now I can not only offend younger people by repeating myself, moving slowly, and being boring, I can also offend them with my body odor.

. . . and don't say, "Age is only a number." :smash:

Reba boring? Never! Well I'll be right there with you repeating myself and asking people to repeat themselves 13453943 times and I don't mind taking my time with slower walkers (hell I'm slow and there's nothing wrong with me). I'd still think it would be cool to meet you someday if ever :)

Anyone can have bad BO at any age . I had clients that were 102 yo and they had no BO. Bad BO can a sign of a health issues . I know someone that
had bad BO all their life and she never been very healthy .

I don't think it's "Body Odor" but more of a general body scent. Body odor to me is when there's more sweating/perspiration or uncleanliness. I know of people who have stinky BO and are healthy as a horse.


As for the article... very interesting. Like Robin, I do recall smelling that distinct smell mixed with lysol?/disinfectant in nursing homes and hospitals. I don't remember ever smelling this kind of odor with my grandparents. With my other grandmother- there was always an unique scent at her house but I associated that with the age of the house rather than the occupant.
My parents don't give off the scent either but then maybe it be true for others who walk into my parents' house for the first time... *shrugs* who knows.
 
my little luxury is perfume I all ways use the best but like all perfume I can instantly tell the age of someone by perfume smell they leave..if I smell blue grass then person be about 70 lavender proberly older tweed again 70ish and BO over 60 yippy doo...well after reading this I just sat in bath for an hour then had shower I don't think I ponging
 
When I went into Rehab for my balance issues after surgery, my roommate was 85 and not mobile...I did note a "smell"..just overlooked it. Anyhow, being a new patient there, I asked about taking a bath...they said we were allowed 2 baths a week....:shock:...most all the patients there were immobile and the staff had to help them....

I was highly upset and became a little demanding about it...finally got my way and was able to take a bath every evening by myself...(against the rules tho')....My roommate washed herself in her wheelchair instead of taking a bath....:hmm:...so it did give me a perspective of things. A lot of the patients were overweight and immobile....
 
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