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Yea, I used to participate in the political threads but it has been run over by the conservatives making me lose interest in them. I guess that's how the OP feels about the CI threads. I guess there needs to be a healthy balance of both whether it is political or HAs/CIs. I thought several threads in the HA/CI subforums were mostly about the working mechanisms of CIs, costs of parts, and etc..no arguments. Guess I was wrong.