U.S. District Judge states Georgia discriminates against the Deaf

Yup, Alabama got sued with similar situation that mentioned in article in 8 years ago.
 
Foxrac said:
Why are you posted same link again?
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The first time I posted that link, I accidentally posted the wrong link (the first link in the OP) - I corrected it - the second link is about the surprise DOJ inspection where they found hundreds of ADA violations in Atlanta.

Sorry about that. Check the link again.
 
Steinhauer said:
The first time I posted that link, I accidentally posted the wrong link (the first link in the OP) - I corrected it - the second link is about the surprise DOJ inspection where they found hundreds of ADA violations in Atlanta.

Sorry about that. Check the link again.
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Wow, not surprised about numerous ADA violations in Atlanta.

What are you think about this situation?

My home is only 1.5 hours away from Atlanta and took about 1 hour to pass the Georgia-Alabama border. I know some people got jobs in Atlanta but live in Alabama, however they have to change the time zone to EST/EDT instead of CST/CDT.
 
Foxrac said:
Wow, not surprised about numerous ADA violations in Atlanta.

What are you think about this situation?

My home is only 1.5 hours away from Atlanta and took about 1 hour to pass the Georgia-Alabama border. I know some people got jobs in Atlanta but live in Alabama, however they have to change the time zone to EST/EDT instead of CST/CDT.
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I think it is typical when government is run by the "good 'ol boy" system. A lot of "here, take this $$$" wink - wink under the table, back room deals "what can they do about it (heh heh) they can't do anything - they are disabled" <<<<< generally what good ol boys think when it comes to receiving federal funds meant to be distributed to those with disabilities - they end up pocketing it or spending it on High School Football Fields or some other such fancy stuff - don't they always drive such nice cars, live in golf course communities?

^ Just my opinion of course. Time to rattle their cage.

Too many people I personally know have been absolutely burned, lives destroyed, because of government greed ... er, mismanagement right here in Georgia.

And ..... since a U.S. District Judge just said it is actually happening, I can say that with more than an ounce of conviction.
 
Steinhauer said:
I think it is typical when government is run by the "good 'ol boy" system. A lot of "here, take this $$$" wink - wink under the table, back room deals "what can they do about it (heh heh) they can't do anything - they are disabled" <<<<< generally what good ol boys think when it comes to receiving federal funds meant to be distributed to those with disabilities - they end up pocketing it or spending it on High School Football Fields or some other such fancy stuff - don't they always drive such nice cars, live in golf course communities?

^ Just my opinion of course. Time to rattle their cage.

Too many people I personally know have been absolutely burned, lives destroyed, because of government greed ... er, mismanagement right here in Georgia.

And ..... since a U.S. District Judge just said it is actually happening, I can say that with more than an ounce of conviction.
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I'm confused about what are you saying? care to clarify? :confused:
 
Steinhauer said:
I think it is typical when government is run by the "good 'ol boy" system.
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curious - are they mostly Republicans?

Steinhauer said:
A lot of "here, take this $$$" wink - wink under the table, back room deals "what can they do about it (heh heh) they can't do anything - they are disabled" <<<<< generally what good ol boys think when it comes to receiving federal funds meant to be distributed to those with disabilities - they end up pocketing it or spending it on High School Football Fields or some other such fancy stuff - don't they always drive such nice cars, live in golf course communities?

^ Just my opinion of course. Time to rattle their cage.
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curious - where did it say that they were pocketing it or spending it on high school football fields or fancy stuff?

Steinhauer said:
Too many people I personally know have been absolutely burned, lives destroyed, because of government greed ... er, mismanagement right here in Georgia.

And ..... since a U.S. District Judge just said it is actually happening, I can say that with more than an ounce of conviction.
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government greed? mismanagement?

in most cases, it's usually by couple of high-ranking government officials stealing some money for their personal uses or misusing the funds like GSA. any idea who were the culprits?
 
Ok, I will attempt to clarify. Do you remember several years ago when there was a national investigation into Vocational Rehabilitation? They found VR counselors denying clients and they were pocketing federal funds?

I was attempting to show ((in my opinion)) the thought process that goes through those types of individuals minds when they commit those acts. They will vehemently deny that they are doing this - yet, those buildings found in violation of the ADA were built AFTER the ADA was passed.

AFTER ...... how did that happen if not for Government employees pocketing money meant to bring buildings up to code?

Now, the State is claiming not enough resources ... puhlease :roll:

They just want to cling to their rolls royce and beach condos (paid for by your tax dollars)
 
Jiro said:
curious - are they mostly Republicans?

Mostly Democrats until Nathan Deal became Governor - Georgia has been primarily Democrat leaning.

I do not know why you ask - although I suspect - but the ADA was passed by Republicans


curious - where did it say that they were pocketing it or spending it on high school football fields or fancy stuff?


government greed? mismanagement?

in most cases, it's usually by couple of high-ranking government officials stealing some money for their personal uses or misusing the funds like GSA. any idea who were the culprits?
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Yes, I have a general idea.
 
Steinhauer said:
Ok, I will attempt to clarify. Do you remember several years ago when there was a national investigation into Vocational Rehabilitation? They found VR counselors denying clients and they were pocketing federal funds?

I was attempting to show ((in my opinion)) the thought process that goes through those types of individuals minds when they commit those acts. They will vehemently deny that they are doing this - yet, those buildings found in violation of the ADA were built AFTER the ADA was passed.

AFTER ...... how did that happen if not for Government employees pocketing money meant to bring buildings up to code?

Now, the State is claiming not enough resources ... puhlease :roll:

They just want to cling to their rolls royce and beach condos (paid for by your tax dollars)
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is there a fact that government employees were stealing money meant for improving buildings to be disability-compliant? and who?
 
Steinhauer said:
Ok, I will attempt to clarify. Do you remember several years ago when there was a national investigation into Vocational Rehabilitation? They found VR counselors denying clients and they were pocketing federal funds?

I was attempting to show ((in my opinion)) the thought process that goes through those types of individuals minds when they commit those acts. They will vehemently deny that they are doing this - yet, those buildings found in violation of the ADA were built AFTER the ADA was passed.

AFTER ...... how did that happen if not for Government employees pocketing money meant to bring buildings up to code?

Now, the State is claiming not enough resources ... puhlease :roll:

They just want to cling to their rolls royce and beach condos (paid for by your tax dollars)
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I'm trying to figure it out about what are you saying but still confused.

Are you saying it is DOJ's fault to sue on state of Georgia?

Do you think it is not state of Georgia nor city of Atlanta fault?
 
Steinhauer said:
Yes, I have a general idea.
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In past, Georgia was controlled by mostly conservative democrats so they switched to Republican Party after realized about Democratic Party is getting more liberal than ever.

Georgia never had majority liberal who took control of state.

Blame on parties aren't making difference because majority of them are still conservative.

Republican started tookover of state legislative in Jan 2005 and you had few republican governors in past.
 
Foxrac said:
In past, Georgia was controlled by mostly conservative democrats so they switched to Republican Party after realized about Democratic Party is getting more liberal than ever.

Georgia never had majority liberal who took control of state.

Blame on parties aren't making difference because majority of them are still conservative.

Republican started tookover of state legislative in Jan 2005 and you had few republican governors in past.
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Nice try guys ....

If you want to politicize this topic here is what I am going to say....I could say this was political - and I am sure there are some political aspects involved when certain federal laws were passed by the republicans and are not followed. No Child Left behind and the massive Public School corruption is an example of what goes on in Atlanta. The hundreds of ADA violations is yet another ...

Absolutely no excuse for it. The best the Democrats can do is try to make this topic as confusing as possible so they can shift blame on the Republicans for their own corruption. So, if you guys want to take this topic in that direction - sure, we can do that (at your peril of course - remember, the Democrats in the South supported segregation and comprised the majority of the KKK).
 
Foxrac said:
I'm trying to figure it out about what are you saying but still confused.

Are you saying it is DOJ's fault to sue on state of Georgia?

Do you think it is not state of Georgia nor city of Atlanta fault?
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No - I am not blaming DOJ. In fact, I believe the DOJ's surprise inspection was long over due because of all the neglect by State government employees in regards to the deaf and disabled citizens of Georgia.

When government officials claim that they did not have a budget to cover the cost of bringing a building to code, yet own 5 houses, live in a golf course community, children attend private school, drive around in 75-100k cars ....

get it now?
 
Steinhauer said:
No - I am not blaming DOJ. In fact, I believe the DOJ's surprise inspection was long over due because of all the neglect by State government employees in regards to the deaf and disabled citizens of Georgia.

When government officials claim that they did not have a budget to cover the cost of bringing a building to code, yet own 5 houses, live in a golf course community, children attend private school, drive around in 75-100k cars ....

get it now?
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is that a fact? do you have any news source or whatsoever that government officials are living like king? did they steal from government funding for their greed? where are the facts or proof?
 
Steinhauer said:
Nice try guys ....

If you want to politicize this topic here is what I am going to say....I could say this was political - and I am sure there are some political aspects involved when certain federal laws were passed by the republicans and are not followed. No Child Left behind and the massive Public School corruption is an example of what goes on in Atlanta. The hundreds of ADA violations is yet another ...

Absolutely no excuse for it. The best the Democrats can do is try to make this topic as confusing as possible so they can shift blame on the Republicans for their own corruption. So, if you guys want to take this topic in that direction - sure, we can do that
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Since when this fiasco started to happen?

Steinhauer said:
(at your peril of course - remember, the Democrats in the South supported segregation and comprised the majority of the KKK).
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this is related to this topic..... how?

FYI - the Democrats in the South who supported segregation were the conservatives and rightists. as the time changes, they switched to Republican conservatives/rightists. let's not forget about David Duke.
 
Jiro said:
Since when this fiasco started to happen?


this is related to this topic..... how?

FYI - the Democrats in the South who supported segregation were the conservatives and rightists. as the time changes, they switched to Republican conservatives/rightists. let's not forget about David Duke.
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This fiasco started with you and your question intending to politicize this thread.

and FYI - those who supported segregation in the South were members of the Democrat party - not conservatives and rightists as you claim. The party that ended segregation was the Republican party. MLK .... was a republican.

Let's take your "theory" about the KKK card carrying members of the Democrat party who suddenly, and mysteriously, decided to become Republicans, and apply it to the longest serving Senator, and longest serving member of the U.S. Congress to see if it fits.

Nope ... Robert Byrd never switched parties. He was a Dixiecrat when he was a KKK member, and he was a Democrat when he died.

Like I said earlier .... nice try guys. And to answer your question with clarity in post #9 - no, they are mostly democrats - even today.
 
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