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I totally understand what you are saying and what you did to help resolve it is exactly what I was saying to Shel. Not everybody cares to get in the face of others but sometimes that is what you have to do to get a point across. I find myself having to do that with hearing people. I am by no means trying to compare the two and I know that deaf people experience this daily whereas I maybe encounter these situations only once and a while. I am not pro or anti CI. In fact if you know my story I only have experience with CI failure. I still cant help thinking that if a CI worked for someone like you or Shel, that it would resolve the issues that you speak of here. What are your thoughts on that?