Trump: Obama Must Release Birth Certificate

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Donald Trump is calling on President Barack Obama to produce his birth certificate and end speculation he was born outside the United States.

"I want him to show his birth certificate. I want him to show his birth certificate," Trump said on ABC's "The View." "There's something on that birth certificate that he doesn't like."

Trump said he believe Obama "probably" was born in the United States but repeated questions he raised last week about the president's childhood, CNN reported.

"If you go back to my first grade, my kindergarten, people remember me. Nobody from those early years remembers him," Trump said. "If you're going to be president of the United States, it says very profoundly you have to be born in this country."


Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie, a friend of Obama's parents in Hawaii who said he remembers when the future president was born, first vowed to produce an original copy of the president's birth certificate this year.

But he abandoned those efforts because it is against state law to release private documents, CNN quoted his spokeswoman as saying.

Until now, the president’s representatives have depended on a certification of live birth that reported his birthplace as Honolulu, Hawaii.

The certification of live birth is a summary of the birth certificate's details, but does not include information typically found in the full certificate, such as place of birth and attending physician.

Trump is not alone in suggesting that Obama should release his full birth certificate.

In December, MSNBC’s pro-Obama host Chris Matthews called on the president to release his long-form birth certificate to settle the controversy surrounding his birthplace once and for all, saying, “If it exists, why not put it out?”

“I am not a birther,” Matthews declared. “I am an enemy of the birthers.”


But he held up the long-form birth certificate of someone who was born the day before Obama, and compared it with the shorter version Obama has released, which to the birthers, he said, “is evidence that he really ain’t one of us.

“Why has the president himself not demanded that they put out the official document?” Matthews said.

“Why doesn’t the governor just say, snap it up, whoever’s there at the department of records, send me a copy right now? Why doesn’t the president just say, send me a copy right now? Why doesn’t [White House press secretary Robert] Gibbs and [senior adviser David] Axelrod say, let’s just get this crappy story dead? Why not do it?

“The department out there just said the other day that there is such a thing. It exists. The original document of his birth is available. They have it in storage, they said. And if it exists, why not put it out?

“Will there be any harm done by releasing the original document?”

But Obama’s critics — many of whom don’t buy in the birther theory that he was born outside the United States — still note a pattern of secrecy surrounding much of Obama’s life before he entered politics. They note that Obama never has unveiled many key documents that presidential candidates traditionally release to the press and the public.

For example:

During the presidential campaign, Obama released just one brief document detailing his personal health, while GOP opponent John McCain released what he said was his complete medical file totaling more than 1,500 pages. The Obama campaign eventually released some routine lab-test results and electrocardiograms for Obama.

Obama refused to offer his official papers as a state legislator in Illinois and did not produce correspondence, such as letters from lobbyists and other information, from his days in the Illinois Senate.

Obama did not release his client list as an attorney or his billing records.
Obama declined to release his college records from Occidental College, where he studied for two years before transferring to Columbia University.

Obama’s campaign refused to give Columbia University, where he earned an undergraduate degree in political science, permission to release his transcripts. Such transcripts would list the courses Obama took, and his grades.

Obama’s college dissertation, reportedly titled “Soviet Nuclear Disarmament,” has disappeared from Columbia’s archives.

Obama did not agree to the release of his application to the Illinois state bar, which would clear up intermittent allegations that his application to the bar may have been inaccurate.

Obama has not released records from his time at Harvard Law School.
During his campaign for president, Obama promised he would make his White House “the most open and transparent administration in history.”


Trump: Obama Must Release Birth Certificate
 
Uh? I thought his birth certifice was already released?
 
snopes.com: Barack Obama Birth Certificate

*sighs*

Also, I'm pretty sure that President Obama does have a right to a certain degree of privacy. If you want to squabble about who was born in the U.S., then go look at John McCain's birth place. Not that being born in the Panama Canal Zone on a military base disqualifies you. :P
 
Uh? I thought his birth certifice was already released?



Nope.....there was a fake. There was a certificate of living person (different) and there was a press release by a state official. But no actual birth cert. I think he was born there.....but where is the tranparency he promised???? What is the big secret????
 
The birth certificate issue keeps "popping up" over and over...now Trump has brought it back and I suspect there will be more and more questioning it, over and over...Even if the one that was produced is fake and not "the real McCoy", what are they gonna do to the man? Impeach him?
Thinking Obama should settle this once and for all, and remove all doubt from people's minds, if he has nothing to hide.
 
Without going into lengthy details-----There are two forms of birth documents: short and long. Obama produced the short one. The long form is the KEY. This is the form everyone wants to see and it does not seem to exist. Even Neil was trying to get at it before he was shut down by the "privacy laws".

Now....if anyone is interested in checking this angle--the Fullbright Fellowship.
Students on this scholarship enter a U.S. school from overseas. That is the rule of this scholarship. That is the reason why Obama does not want his school records released. Do you see Americans on this scholarship? No. Only foreign students.

Another angle....there is a document that indicates the president being born in Kenya, along with his paternal grandmother saying she was there at the birth.

All this just for starters. Go Trump Go!
 
it is going to be interesting for 2011.. Let's see how trump is going to do something about it. :wiggle:
 
Nope.....there was a fake. There was a certificate of living person (different) and there was a press release by a state official. But no actual birth cert. I think he was born there.....but where is the tranparency he promised???? What is the big secret????

Got evidience? I'd like to see it please? otherwise I'm going to treat this as an allegation.
 
Sigh... when are you people going to realize that even if EVERY avenue is exhausted to show that Obama was indeed born in Hawaii, you STILL won't believe it?

You will simply call it a forgery. You will say that Obama has paid 432 people to lie for him. You will come up with something.

So... what is the point, man?

Come on, let's be honest here. There is NOTHING that will change your mind, nothing that will make you believe. Is there?
 
it is going to be interesting for 2011.. Let's see how trump is going to do something about it. :wiggle:

I have the feeling even if Obama provides the long document, the birthers will never be happy with it no matter what evidence against Obama being born in a foreign country. They'll somehow complain that it's a fake one. Mark my words. :roll:
 
Sigh... when are you people going to realize that even if EVERY avenue is exhausted to show that Obama was indeed born in Hawaii, you STILL won't believe it?

You will simply call it a forgery. You will say that Obama has paid 432 people to lie for him. You will come up with something.

So... what is the point, man?

Come on, let's be honest here. There is NOTHING that will change your mind, nothing that will make you believe. Is there?

I see you beat me to it.
 
Maybe Obama is an alien from another planet sent here to ensure total world domination.
 
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Sigh... when are you people going to realize that even if EVERY avenue is exhausted to show that Obama was indeed born in Hawaii, you STILL won't believe it?

You will simply call it a forgery. You will say that Obama has paid 432 people to lie for him. You will come up with something.

So... what is the point, man?

Come on, let's be honest here. There is NOTHING that will change your mind, nothing that will make you believe. Is there?

How much were you paid to be one of the 432?
 
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