the CI evaluation

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Went to the evaluation appointment today in Denver... from the results of the hearing testing that was done, I AM a candidate. Next step: CAT scan so the surgeon can see what the cochleas are like (there's a very good chance my left ear is fully ossified by now). also need to get insurance of some sort too.

I wrote about the experience in my blog. :)

Anyone know about how much a CAT scan costs?
 
Glad to hear that you are a candidate. I hope that you can get the insurance sorted out as well. Good luck with the CAT scan. Did you have meningitis as a child then?
 
Yeah I did have meningitis when I was 2. HIB meningitis. If I can continue to work full time at my current job, I should be able to get the insurance.
 
Yeah I did have meningitis when I was 2. HIB meningitis. If I can continue to work full time at my current job, I should be able to get the insurance.
yeah i also got menegits when i was 2 and implanted when i was 25 :D
 
Just wondering, did they say you were pretty much a clear cut canidate?
It does sound like it, from what you've said on the boards. Congrats.....I mean the difference between CI and HA, is prolly akin to the diffy between what a hoh person hears with a ITE and a BTE.Can't you get insurance from the state or something?
I know how hard it is to get insurance and things like that..........
 
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I know how hard it is to get insurance and things like that..........

yes,as far as I see on this board ,american type insurance is much painful than that of my country.. In my country, one can get insurance after four months of full time working .

back on topic.. I'm glad cdmeggers is a candidate.. I hope he could get his CI soon.. sorry that I can't know a CAT scan cost.. hope you can deal with that.
 
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Even if you can get private insurance, if you have not been immediately insured for the 12 months prior, there will likely be a waiting period as your deafness would be considered a pre-existing condition. If you qualify for Medicare or Medicaid, then I don't think they have those waiting periods -- Medicare covers CIs for all adults, Medicaid is on a state-by-state basis -- some states do, some states don't. Please feel free to e-mail me privately with insurance questions, it can be incredibly complicated. I noticed you are in Wyoming, you should check with the Rocky Mountain Ear Clinic (Dr. Kelsall) in Colorado, they have some type of program for people who need CIs who don't have insurance

Cash price for a CT is usually about $400, though it can differ based on your geography. If you don't negotiate a cash price up front, it is more likely to be $1000. I personally recommend finding a facility that has the Xoran MiniCAT scanner, it is 90 seconds and 90 % reduced radiation from the more traditional "lying down" CT machines -- you can contact Xoran (Xoran Makes the Complex Simple) and they can send you a list of facilities with their machine in your area.

yes,as far as I see on this board ,american type insurance is much painful than that of my country.. In my country, one can get insurance after four months of full time working .

back on topic.. I'm glad cdmeggers is a candidate.. I hope he could get his CI soon.. sorry that I can't know a CAT scan cost.. hope you can deal with that.
 
yes,as far as I see on this board ,american type insurance is much painful than that of my country.. In my country, one can get insurance after four months of full time working .
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Here in Australia you get full coverage even for pre-existing conditions after being on insurance for 12 months. It's against the law to fully exclude pre existing conditions after this 12 month waiting period. People also arrange their medical insurance separately, not through their employer. So lots of unemployed people will keep paying their premiums to stay insured.

But even if you can't afford insurance, you can get a CI on the free, socialised medical sector but you'd have to wait longer for it.
 
Just wondering, did they say you were pretty much a clear cut canidate?
It does sound like it, from what you've said on the boards. Congrats.....I mean the difference between CI and HA, is prolly akin to the diffy between what a hoh person hears with a ITE and a BTE.Can't you get insurance from the state or something?
I know how hard it is to get insurance and things like that..........

I've used both IET and BTE and really the difference between them wasn't really what I was lead to believe it would be. Now the difference between the HA and the CI (which I've used both) is probably more like the difference between a record and a digital cd. The cd has none of the scratchiness of the record. the CI has none of the destortion of the HA.
 
Unfortunately, in the US they differentiate between individual insurance plans and group insurance. With group insurance, they have to cover pre-existing conditions if you had a different insurance plan immediately, and if you don't there is a waiting period depending on how long you've been without insurance (waiting period cannot exceed 18 months I believe). The problem is group insurance is only available through groups, i.e. employment, and if you get laid off or fired a) you aren't always guaranteed you can keep the insurance, b) if you can keep the insurance, it is rarely for longer than 18 months and c) it is generally ridiculously expensive -- the last time I did this, to insure a family of 4 with a decent plan it was $1100 per month.

Also unfortunately, the above is the good news with respect to the American insurance system. The bad news is that individual insurance doesn't have to accept anyone -- I knew of one plan that refused to accept someone because they had been treated for hay fever. If they do accept you, they can exclude anything they want, and the exclusion is generally permanent. And the insurance is still expensive.

Finally, the worst news -- we don't have a socialized safety net. Government insurance requires either very low income, very low assets or both, and because the rules differ from state to state, your CI might not even be covered.

Here in Australia you get full coverage even for pre-existing conditions after being on insurance for 12 months. It's against the law to fully exclude pre existing conditions after this 12 month waiting period. People also arrange their medical insurance separately, not through their employer. So lots of unemployed people will keep paying their premiums to stay insured.

But even if you can't afford insurance, you can get a CI on the free, socialised medical sector but you'd have to wait longer for it.
 
Unfortunately, in the US they differentiate between individual insurance plans and group insurance. With group insurance, they have to cover pre-existing conditions if you had a different insurance plan immediately, and if you don't there is a waiting period depending on how long you've been without insurance (waiting period cannot exceed 18 months I believe). The problem is group insurance is only available through groups, i.e. employment, and if you get laid off or fired a) you aren't always guaranteed you can keep the insurance, b) if you can keep the insurance, it is rarely for longer than 18 months and c) it is generally ridiculously expensive -- the last time I did this, to insure a family of 4 with a decent plan it was $1100 per month.

Also unfortunately, the above is the good news with respect to the American insurance system. The bad news is that individual insurance doesn't have to accept anyone -- I knew of one plan that refused to accept someone because they had been treated for hay fever. If they do accept you, they can exclude anything they want, and the exclusion is generally permanent. And the insurance is still expensive.

Finally, the worst news -- we don't have a socialized safety net. Government insurance requires either very low income, very low assets or both, and because the rules differ from state to state, your CI might not even be covered.

That's very interesting. Currently, we pay about US$175 per month for full hospital, family cover, which has paid for both my implants. However, I think that the existence of the socialised medical system has kept premiums at that fairly affordable level. It's a very hybrid system - the government paid for the actual implants, but the insurance covered the hospital stay and doctors' fees.

If people have very serious conditions e.g. need triple heart bypass, they will tend to go to the socialised sector even if they have insurance, because they have more equipment, expertise and intensive care units there. The private sector is more for routine, elective and reasonably straightforward procedures. Many doctors here divide their time between the private and public sector.

I had my baby in a private hospital, but had she been born before 34 weeks, they would have transferred me to the nearby public hospital, which has the expertise to deal with such cases. I might well have seen my same ob gyn at the other hospital!

I grew up in the UK, which had an even smaller private sector and more expensive and the vast majority of the population used the national health service, which meant long queues and rationed health care for some elective procedures e.g IVF. I like the Australian model best because we still get choice of doctors and hospital but have the safety net of the socialised system for those who cannot afford it.
 
I noticed you are in Wyoming, you should check with the Rocky Mountain Ear Clinic (Dr. Kelsall) in Colorado, they have some type of program for people who need CIs who don't have insurance

It was at the Rocky Mountain Ear Center where I had the evaluation done. The audiologist gave us a number to call for the OMS, but she couldn't really help us much with the insurance part. Right now, I'm just working with Human Resource at my job about the insurance. We're just hoping I can continue working full time so that I can get the insurance (they use BlueCross BlueShield). I'd check with SSI, but I'm making "too much money" (more than $800 a month) so that's not really an option.

I'm just kind of taking my time right now, figuring out things and doing some more research. :)
 
Jag, well bear in mind that your experiance with HAs wasn't what a typical hoh person would experiance. Your experiance was more like someone with recruitment. Maybe if you'd responded better with HAs, you'd understand what I was trying to say. ITE aids tend not to be powerful enough to aid more then a mild loss. Many people with more then a mild loss CAN hear with ITE, but they can hear EVEN BETTER with BTEs.
 
My audiologists have never even considered getting ITE's for me, my loss is too severe. And I wouldn't want an ITE anyway, I'm perfectly happy with the BTEs. The more power there is, the better it is for me.
 
My audiologists have never even considered getting ITE's for me, my loss is too severe. And I wouldn't want an ITE anyway, I'm perfectly happy with the BTEs. The more power there is, the better it is for me.

yes, ITEs are weak for severe/profound loss . I have profound loss and I was fitted with a ITE at an audiologist.. I wasn't comfortable even at the highest volume level.
 
Jag, well bear in mind that your experiance with HAs wasn't what a typical hoh person would experiance. Your experiance was more like someone with recruitment. Maybe if you'd responded better with HAs, you'd understand what I was trying to say. ITE aids tend not to be powerful enough to aid more then a mild loss. Many people with more then a mild loss CAN hear with ITE, but they can hear EVEN BETTER with BTEs.

I met people with mild losses who struggle with the ITE. I think its a rubbish hearing aid that has given more priority to cosmetic factors than performance.
 
I met people with mild losses who struggle with the ITE. I think its a rubbish hearing aid that has given more priority to cosmetic factors than performance.

Actually in my 20's and 30's the ITE's worked ok. It was only when I reached 40 that things became a struggle. (That's ITE not ITC) I then got the digital behind the ear powerful things that still didn't do what I think they shoud do. Some people may like what they get out of the HA's, I never have. Even my daughters dislike HA's. To much noise even with the programming digitals are capable of . My daughter who is successful with her HA's still conciders them to be crap. LOL

I am actually one of the people who really don't do as well as expected with HA's. They can find no reason that I didn't do well, I jsut think of it as being me. :)

I never really knew that people could actually hear sirens 10 stories up. It's one of the most amazing things I've experienced with the CI, which does do what I hoped/expected it to do, and much more. . :)
 
R2D2, yes I know. I think overall that the bitty aids are just a paen to vanity.
They really don't have enough power. Size really does still somewhat translate into more power.
Jag, it just goes to show how different everyone is with regards to how they respond to hearing technology. Most people do respond well to HAs.
 
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