First of all, I don't want to log in and post but Nas (my date) showed me this topic and first 'word' in my mind is: WTF? So I logged in and posted.
Naturally, I agree with Taylor, Meg and Cheri that Racists/racism need to stop no matter which party is... We are in
Millennium age for fuckin' sake.
Taylor said:
Tweety...I don't think he was knocking races at all. The perception is if a well known Democrat makes a comment, it was just a bad judgement mistake and should be forgiven. If a Republican makes a similar comment, he should be tarred and feathered and hung from a noose in the center of town.
I don't think so but again, that's your opinion. But one thing is -- Will I be crucify by opposition party and ravensteve if I stand up on the soapbox and preach about Social Equality and liberalism like jews did to Jesus? After all Jesus was a liberal and he strongly believes in liberalism. So will I be crucify for that? Highly probable. Btw, It is a
half-joke. Seriously, I would put myself in the boat to debate with you but the boat sank a while ago (refering to my pm & email that I sent you, Taylor)
Y said:
Raven is NOT a racist at all.
Really? His post stated otherwise:
http://www.alldeaf.com/showpost.php?p=239780&postcount=17 (there are two other racism comment by him but I save these for another further debate if need included screenshots)
Y said:
That's exactly the freedom of speech.
Are you talking about yours or mine or ours? That is indeed good question. We can exercise our so-called 'freedom of speech' in here as long as excluded racism, sex discrimination, namecalling, etc... Actually all we need to use is: our common sense. To remind you something about 'freedom of speech', there is no such thing as freedom of speech in internet 'world'. USA is not the world (Thank God for that btw). I am a mod/super mod/admin at 7 different communities for 5 years (I am a supermod at one of these communities that have over 150,000 members. I see that specific pattern behavior all of the time hence we altered the policy and warned/banned anyone who uses that excuse. It solved the problem faster than we thought). It is common excuse for anyone to use when they make some unfairly comment(s) toward other people. I saw these all of the time. If anyone takes any courses that apply internet in the university/colleges will recieve the similar warnings from professors/teachers that 'freedom of speech' does NOT exist in the internet. It is purely
privilege. Nothing more. I believe there is still a article that I wrote 'how to be a mod and what it takes to be a mod" at somewhere ('published' in 2002)... So-called 'Freedom of speech' issue is in that article.. I need to look somewhere to find it.
Now as for you, Ravensteve....
ravensteve1961 said:
Yeah,,,Im im sick in tired of democrats saying its never their fault they make they always blame the republicans for americans problems and never look at what they done to america when they were in power 60s,70s, and 80s.
Yeah... More than half of americans included me and 80% of world are sick and tired of republicans/conservatives-americans who tend to point their fingers at others but themselves. They (republicans/conservatives-americans) refused to take the responsibilities for their actions. They never bother to consider about their consequences that they affected America in bad way thru 1900's to now. We are sick of you war-lust people. Well-structured society such as Sweden, Canada and UK already proved that liberals/sociaists do much, much more good than harm. What you said is nothing but opinion which I respectfully appreciated and replied. Of course my comment is nothing but opinion. In fact, I begin to understand myself bit better when I read your rants. I realized that finger a point does not solve any problems or change anything... Hence why I stopped doing that lately when I read your comments (I know I just 'point a finger' recent above but I used this example to contradict your rant. Of course I didn't do that on purpose.. I want to make you to see for yourself) I am sure that your mom (or dad) told you that pointing a finger does not solve anything or tell you to take the responsibility for your action. Mothers know best. If you want to continually pointing your finger at democrats... be my guest but it will NOT solve anything. I repeat:
It will NOT solve anything. I learned a lesson from it and move on to make the best out of it. That's what 'adult' means. (
Edit: Fact is: Both parties are no better. You can point a finger at democrats as long as you want but you and your party have the
same problem. Keep that in your mind. Again I repeat: What I said about republicans/conservatives are nothing but rant. I want to pose as ravensteve to make my point across for ravensteve to understand about himself bit more. But with his recent post, it appears that he still don't understand. Oh well. Taylor or anyone, don't take my comment wrong... I was posing as ravensteve. Nothing more).
About racist issue, I want to share mine:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/state/tennessee/2004-08-06-racist-primary_x.htm (Unabashed racist wins GOP primary in Tenn.)
I want to add a important comment from that link:
Hart, 60, vows if elected to work toward keeping "less favored races" from reproducing or immigrating to the United States. In campaign literature, Hart contends that "poverty genes" threaten to turn the United States into "one big Detroit."
Hm. Interesting.
Another link:
http://www.americanpolitics.com/20030916Hersh.html (Republican Racists Disrespect Hispanics from Coast to Coast)
Again, I want to quote few comments: Actually there are more.. but I want to keep this long post short:
Bush and his party tell Republican Hispanics: "Don't get 'uppity.' Go wait outside. We'll call you when we need you."
Hmmm. Interesting. Ravensteve, it is my turn to ask you... It is ok for republicans to be racist? Yes? Right? Huh?
Once again, people... Cheri, Meg and Taylor is right about
BOTH party have the same problem and they
BOTH are wrong to do that. They
BOTH must stop. Right. Now. Pointing a finger is frankly, childish thing to do. What I did in the past is childish as well... I am
mature enough to admit it and realized my mistake then take the responsibility by change my approach. I did my part but will you guys? Okay, I am done with this topic, I will not bother to check this topic after my post... Have fun, folks.
Don't you think there a time when enough is enough? 
I agree with you Taylor;