Schwarzenegger's father had Nazi past!

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Arnie's dad had Nazi past



AP - The brief entry in one of millions of documents stored at the Austrian State Archives shows that Gustav Schwarzenegger, the late father of the film star now running for governor of California, was a volunteer member of the Sturmabteilung, or SA - the notorious Nazi storm troopers also known as brownshirts.

The father's Nazi Party membership and combat record in the German army are not new, and his son's dismay about it is well known. The revelations of SA membership that emerged a week ago add another strand to the murky story.

The "SA 1.5.1939" listing shows that the elder Schwarzenegger joined May 1, 1939, the year after Germany annexed Austria and six months after the brownshirts played a crucial role in the bloody Kristallnacht riots.

The Simon Wiesenthal Center, which in 1990 investigated Gustav Schwarzenegger's wartime past at his son's request, plans to conduct new research before the October 7 California recall election to establish what the father's unit did, said Rabbi Marvin Hier.

Whatever it finds out, "We will give it to Arnold, then to the public," Hier told The Associated Press in a telephone interview from the centre's' Los Angeles headquarters. "Whatever the record shows, so may it show. Should that record have any bearing on Arnold Schwarzenegger himself? In my opinion, absolutely not."

The Schwarzenegger campaign had no immediate comment.

The Wiesenthal Center didn't find the storm trooper reference in its 1990 investigation because that record was sealed until last year, 30 years after Gustav Schwarzenegger's death in 1972.

The new information was "negative," though SA membership is not considered a crime in itself, as membership in the Gestapo or the paramilitary SS would be, Hier said.

"We know what the SA and the Nazi Party stood for," he said. "Arnold knows this, and he's not proud of the fact that his father was a member of the Nazi Party and that his father was a member of the SA. This is a matter of deep embarrassment, but Arnold cannot be judged by his father."

The centre's is a Jewish human rights organization dedicated to preserving the memory of the Holocaust. It is named after a Nazi death camp survivor who later helped track down Nazi war criminals.

Arnold Schwarzenegger has donated nearly $750,000 to the centre's, raised millions more, and helped the organisation fight anti-Semitism. Born two years after World War II ended, he long ago distanced himself from his late father's views and in 1991 he received the Wiesenthal Center's National Leadership Award.

Schwarzenegger successfully sued a British tabloid in 1989 and a journalist in 1993 for suggesting he held Nazi and anti-Semitic opinions. He won undisclosed libel damages.

The storm troopers, a paramilitary organization tied to the Nazi Party, played a crucial role in expanding Adolf Hitler's power.

They were part of the 1938 Kristallnacht rampage, during which more than 1,000 synagogues were destroyed. In its aftermath, about 30,000 Jewish men were dragged to Nazi concentration camps and several hundred people were killed or committed suicide.

Gustav Schwarzenegger became a member the following year, at a time when SA membership was declining. The troops had 900,000 members in 1940, down from 4.2 million in 1934, according to the "Encyclopedia of the Holocaust," published in Germany and Switzerland.

Austrian State Archives don't have details about the elder Schwarzenegger's SA activities, and don't provide enough information to determine whether he was any worse than most Nazis, said Ursula Schwarz, a researcher at the Documentation Archive of the Austrian Resistance.

"You cannot judge that from these documents. You would need a whole lot more," she said.

"There's no doubt that Schwarzenegger's father was a Nazi; Austrian records indicate he joined the party on March 1, 1938, two weeks before the country was annexed. A separate record obtained by the Wiesenthal Center indicates he sought membership before the annexation but was only accepted in 1941.

But his past raises few eyebrows in Austria, where many have relatives who were Nazis.

Austrian newspapers, in stories proudly describing their native son Arnold's successes in a US state much larger than his home country, mention Gustav Schwarzenegger's Nazi ties only in passing, if at all.

The Vienna daily Der Standard, in a recent story headlined "Arnie steps in: A man makes himself a legend," wrote that "Gustav, a high-ranking Nazi, brought up the bespectacled, rather frail boy with an iron fist and quite a few slaps in the face."

The archive records also include the elder Schwarzenegger's tattered ID booklet, with a photo of him sporting slicked back hair and a Hitler-style mustache. It lists injuries, hospital stays and medals. Another document says he saw action in Poland, France, Lithuania and in Russia, where he was wounded.

A health registry document describes him as a "calm and reliable person, not particularly outstanding" and assesses his intellect as "average."


©AAP 2003
 
I don t think we should judge for the past we should just judge or see what they hold for our present and future!
 
I agreed with Javapride..

My grandpa and great grandpa were nazi.. they were the one who were shooting at many people line up.. which fell down in the pits.. and covered them up.. but.. my grandpa was very guility and he escaped to USA.. and hid for many years.. in North dakota.. and changed his last name.. it was Gielameier.. changed to Meier.. My dad never speak of his dad or his grandpa..
-- All i know that grandpa married and have 3 kids.. which is my dad and my 2 aunts.. so therefore, we dont want to talk about it.. since we saw alot of tv shows or movies about them.. its really chilly..
 
I know..I just thought I'd share this with everyone -- just to get an idea of where Arnold came from..I know he's a great bloke on his own. :) :thumb:
 
What is wrong with people and the media? Everyone is forgetting one thing. The Nazi Party took part in every aspect of the lives of the German speaking citizens and the annexed terrorities. They forced people to be part of the party or else. Condemning our current people (or even present-day Germans and Austrians) because of their past is so fucked up. It's like I should be condemned because my forefathers owned slaves?
 
Jeez... judging Arnold because of his father's past? It's his father, not himself. Jeez!
 
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