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"While the FDA (Food and Drug Administration) delays its decision on whether to approve fast-growing genetically-modified farmed salmon for human consumption, it is being tugged by consumer groups on one side who urge for specific labeling on the modified fish, and the salmon industry on the other reminding the Agency to stick to current rules."

"According to a Consumers Union nationwide poll, 95% of respondents said they thought food from genetically engineered animals should be labeled, and 78% strongly agreed with this."

Should Genetically Modified Salmon Have Specific Labeling?

I do not believe it should be labeled if there's no difference nutritionally between GMO and nonGMO.

There is NO evidence that GMO food is harmful. People are so hypochondriac and think they're poisoned. We already eat GMO foods - iceburg lettuce is GMO and I don't hear people claiming to be poisoned. Corn is GMO by Indians (its not found in nature, it was created by Indians) yet I don't hear that with it. A lot of "domestic" produce are genetically modified. For example, the big juicy sweet blueberries you get are genetically modified... in nature, it's small and dense and less sweet.

When a label is attached to GMO, it creates unnecessary fear in uneducated consumers and the fact is overwhelming majority of people are NOT educated on nutrition and biology.
 
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GMO soybeans anyone? Monoculture ruining wild stocks? Heellllooo. I would like mine marked so I would know which is wild and which is farmed.
 
GMO soybeans - show me where GMO soybeans are more dangerous than regular soybeans.
 
Well, critics of the GMSalmon call it a "frankenfish" that might cause allergies to people and decimation of the wild salmon. What's next, GMPigs?
 
The GMO salmons are infertile. They cannot reproduce hence no danger of being leaked in the wild. They are raised in farms, not in the wild.

Nutritionally, there's no difference. It's just twice bigger. Salmon is still salmon. It simply used the gene of other fish. For those who have fish allergies should not eat any fish. Salmon is fish.
 
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GMO soybeans - show me where GMO soybeans are more dangerous than regular soybeans.
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http://www.alldeaf.com/current-even...beans-found-cause-some-problems-hamsters.html

netrox said:
The GMO salmons are infertile. They cannot reproduce hence no danger of being leaked in the wild. They are raised in farms, not in the wild.

Nutritionally, there's no difference. It's just twice bigger. Salmon is still salmon. It simply used the gene of other fish. For those who have fish allergies should not eat any fish. Salmon is fish.
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Obviously you don't understand genetic modifications. How can you guarantee something will be sterile every time? Remember fruitflies? They can create sterile ones, but every so often there is one that happen to be fertile and reproduce with their wild cousins. i am sorry, but humans are far from perfect.

Plus, what is stopping escaped farmed infertile fish from competing with wild stocks' natural diet? Lemme guess, they will make the farmed ones dependent on one enzyme that cannot be found in the wild and only in salmon feed? Shortened lifespan? What? Ontop of that, we all know monoculture tends to lend itself to diseases that would not naturally evolve in the wild, then sometimes jump barriers and spread to their wild cousins as well.
 
We already eat GMO foods - iceburg lettuce is GMO and I don't hear people claiming to be poisoned. Corn is GMO by Indians (its not found in nature, it was created by Indians) yet I don't hear that with it. A lot of "domestic" produce are genetically modified. For example, the big juicy sweet blueberries you get are genetically modified... in nature, it's small and dense and less sweet.
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It's called artificial selection: we have bred those plants and animals from their pre-existing gene pools to be that way. Selectively bred animals and crops do not equate to GMO. Our ancestors did not take genes from a jellyfish and insert into a cat. Please separate the two, even a biotech student can tell you that.
 
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Bugs won't eat them. Doesn't that tell you anything?
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That's EXACTLY the one of the goals - they want soybeans to be resistant to bugs.

Even natural produce we consume have natural chemicals to resist bugs but genetically engineered produce produce more of them. That also means better for us because those chemicals are also powerful antioxidants for us.

No bugs would eat coffee beans but it doesn't mean coffee is bad for us. Same with cocoa. Many herbs we consume are toxic to bugs.

Organics have shown to have much higher level of natural pesticides because they are distressed enough to produce them during attacks. When we treat them with chemicals, they produce less and that also means less antioxidants for us. GMO plants have higher level of antioxidants to defend against pests.

Virtually ALL cows eat GMO soybeans and I don't see them becoming monsters or freaks as a result.
 
The FDA is taking it slow as this is the first time they have been asked to approve GM animals....they are still looking at the science...
 
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That's EXACTLY the one of the goals - they want soybeans to be resistant to bugs.

Even natural produce we consume have natural chemicals to resist bugs but genetically engineered produce produce more of them. That also means better for us because those chemicals are also powerful antioxidants for us.

No bugs would eat coffee beans but it doesn't mean coffee is bad for us. Same with cocoa. Many herbs we consume are toxic to bugs.

Organics have shown to have much higher level of natural pesticides because they are distressed enough to produce them during attacks. When we treat them with chemicals, they produce less and that also means less antioxidants for us. GMO plants have higher level of antioxidants to defend against pests.

Virtually ALL cows eat GMO soybeans and I don't see them becoming monsters or freaks as a result.
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Make two piles of seeds, one being genetically modified and the other natural. Bugs will avoid the GM seeds and eat the natural ones. That should give one pause. There is SOMETHING ADDED to the GM seeds that we consume, You trust Monsanto? They do not know the long-term effects of eating GM food. That should give us pause as well.
 
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Google up 'wild corn' and you will be surprised. Indians did not create corn from scratch. They probably simply hybrized corn with other potiential plants, you never know.

GMO products are bad because of genetics that were alternated that can cause health problems in humans and animals in long term. That's part of chemical reaction. Bugs won't eat them because they know its bad for them, they probably smell something is not right.
 
Speaking of monoculture, is deafness.....nevermind, wrong thread. :D
 
Sequonias, it said, "Scientists have discovered that domestic corn and wild teosinte are evolutionary cousins — research suggests that native Americans domesticated maize from wild teosinte stocks using artificial selection — and so genes found in teosinte may also be useful in corn."

Corn and its untamed cousins: wild genes in domestic crops

Its also true for many domestic produce like lettuce.

"GMO products are bad because of genetics that were alternated that can cause health problems in humans and animals in long term."

Dubious. Your body doesn't care about DNA of those engineered species. Your body doesn't arrange DNA based on what DNA you eat. Genes can be influenced by chemicals, but not DNA, in food. DNA is just a genetic code, it's not a virus or an organism.

Allergies are caused by components of food, not the genes themselves. You can genetically alter organism to emit more poison but that's not the goal of scientists - genetic engineering is primarily done to improve yields, fitness, and health. They don't want to mess with genes that would produce the opposite effect.
 
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its a gmo corn made by roundup. you spray the fields once with a certain round up product and don't need to take care of it for the rest of the year. Corn is very vulnerable to herbicides, so ... this corn is engineered to allow for the roundup herbicide to kill the weed around it, not the corn itself.

The thing is... Humans can't eat it.

But cows can. If you buy cheap meat you can taste the corn itself. Disgusting.
 
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its a gmo corn made by roundup. you spray the fields once with a certain round up product and don't need to take care of it for the rest of the year. Corn is very vulnerable to herbicides, so ... this corn is engineered to allow for the roundup herbicide to kill the weed around it, not the corn itself.

The thing is... Humans can't eat it.

But cows can. If you buy cheap meat you can taste the corn itself. Disgusting.
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Be careful how you read the articles on the internet. The big evil Monstano is the one that never tells you what's in our main food.

It is really important that we don't need any GMO foods for our body. The company has no right to modify without our permission.

A fish farm is usually not good. The water in the pool is the pollution, and they do have the water filters. Sometimes, they don't put more filters in the system. They care their profit than clean up the pool which is the most unfortunate.

The GMO is to increase the hormones in fishes to make them fat so that we look at them in the freezer at the store, and the fishes look too good. The problem is that we are eating that hormones which is not supposed to be in our body. This is how you get fat! It is really unbelievable! I think that it is somewhat not serious, but inject the hormones in fishes is bad idea. You visit at a fish farm, and you will see a black large spot on the skin near their eyes. That black spot contains GMO.

GMO corn and organic corn taste very different. The farmers know the difference. Unfortunately, 90 percents of corn farms contain GMO. It is very scary. Why? If the farmers stopped buying the Monsanto's corn seeds, the corn seeds do not grow on the farm which means that they must buy the seeds from the same company. They could buy the organic corn seeds from a different company, but it is not enough for their farm. Another issue, many farmers stuck with their Monsanto's lifetime contract by big mistake. That's why Monsanto proudly won it all. (It is ideal for Bill Gate's operating system for all IBM PCs.) You won't believe this one - I don't know why some farmers still use the chemical to spray on their GMO farm - that's double chemical.

Remember, we are eating organic vegetables that make us really healthy. Any farmers who spread the chemicals (like round-up) on the vegetables that kills bugs, and that vegetables we are eating from the chemicals, too. This affect some of us that develop a tumor and a cancer slowly. A famous article, a monkey has to pick one of two bananas on the table. I bet that you know the answer - of course, the monkey ate the organic banana! Don't worry, I think that sometimes we buy the GMO vegetables because they are almost everywhere and the prices are cheap, but we are still stick with most organics.

The FDA is a huge problem. The FDA bosses are paid by Monsanto under the table for many years, and included some congress people, too. It is very hard for anyone to stop all GMO. Many lawyers are friends with the congress people in the upper class families.
 
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