Researchers identify forerunners of inner-ear cells that enable hearing

deafdyke said:
Good news for the late deafened crew!
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I agreed.

I dont know if it would help those who were born deaf or became deaf at very early age, and was never really helped by hearing aids or CI such as myself. It would takes us a long time to learn to discern the sounds, speech, etc..I think.
 
The future ... just like the atomic bomb was years before it was developed ... or the first man on the moon ... or even a cochlear implant was even invented was probably considered science fiction ... it will take years to develop this avenue of trying to restore hearing and no guarantees that it will be successful ... but before I was implanted that was a discussion my audi and I had ... just implant 1 ear at that time instead of going bi-lateral ... to "save" an ear just in case a cure was found for deafness or the other implant malfunctioned I would have a "back up" I could considered getting another implant in the future ... I doubt this method will be available in my lifetime though ...

Edit: also makes me wonder if that method of regenerating those cells would work after someone has been implanted.
 
Stargazer Lilies said:
I agreed.

I dont know if it would help those who were born deaf or became deaf at very early age, and was never really helped by hearing aids or CI such as myself. It would takes us a long time to learn to discern the sounds, speech, etc..I think.
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Well the question is, could someone born Dhh actually hear like a hearing person? I seriously doubt it. I think for born dhh or born blind/low vision it's going to be more complicated then simply fixing the hair cells in the ear.
 
Bebonang said:
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Hey Beo.....I'm with you. I don't think they should cure pediatric hearing loss. They need to concentrate on late deafened causes of hearing loss.
They also need to concentrate on curing real stuff like diabetes, Alizeheimer's, Tay-Sachs, mental disabilty, autism etc BEFORE working on a cure for pediatric dhh......Peadtric dhh can be adapted to and lived with....kids can use hearing aids/cis, learn ASL and be a part of a rich vibrant culture!
 
deafdyke said:
Hey Beo.....I'm with you. I don't think they should cure pediatric hearing loss. They need to concentrate on late deafened causes of hearing loss.
They also need to concentrate on curing real stuff like diabetes, Alizeheimer's, Tay-Sachs, mental disabilty, autism etc BEFORE working on a cure for pediatric dhh......Peadtric dhh can be adapted to and lived with....kids can use hearing aids/cis, learn ASL and be a part of a rich vibrant culture!
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It sounds like if this became available, you would deny them the chance to hear!!!! Why O why would anyone want to keep it from them just because it is a pediatric case?????????
 
deafdyke said:
Well the question is, could someone born Dhh actually hear like a hearing person? I seriously doubt it. I think for born dhh or born blind/low vision it's going to be more complicated then simply fixing the hair cells in the ear.
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Why do you care if it results in "hearing like a hearing person" or not if it results in very good communication?
 
deafdyke said:
Well the question is, could someone born Dhh actually hear like a hearing person? I seriously doubt it. I think for born dhh or born blind/low vision it's going to be more complicated then simply fixing the hair cells in the ear.
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If you are HoH, your brain already processes the information so I don't think it would be the same thing.

I think the bigger question is if you go back to hearing from having an implant. You might have to learn to hear all over again.
 
Did any of you actually read it?

I wouldn't mind being able to stand up without falling...
 
VacationGuy234 said:
If you are HoH, your brain already processes the information so I don't think it would be the same thing.

I think the bigger question is if you go back to hearing from having an implant. You might have to learn to hear all over again.
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Not quite. Even HOH as kids folks do not hear like a hearing person.
 
Jane B. said:
It sounds like if this became available, you would deny them the chance to hear!!!! Why O why would anyone want to keep it from them just because it is a pediatric case?????????
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How do you know being born with hearing loss doesn't give them advantages? I've been told by hearing people they envy the fact that I can turn off my hearing. I think I can speak up on this b/c I actually underwent surgery that would have made me hearing. (no hearing aids, no abnormal audiogram) I did undergo the surgery, and at first it worked, and I was elated......Then it failed, and it was the best thing ever for me.....I realized I simply had not come to terms with being deaf before.
A kid can live a rich full life without hearing. They can drive, make friends, have families, have careers etc etc etc....anything that a hearing person can do.......except hear. Why is hearing such a big deal?
To me it's like you're saying " Why would you deny a kid the chance to be hetrosexual or gender normative or a boy or any other majority status.
It's not the lack of a sense that's the problem....it's the way that society approaches it that's the problem. I know GLB teens who wish they were straight b/c of societal attitudes. Conversely I know a woman who was born into a very libral family. Her mom is EXTREMELY GAY. Picture the type of gay womyn you'd see at an Ani or an Indigo Girls concert. That's Nancy to a T. As a result Hannah grew up in a family/setting where being gay was the norm/celebrated.
Anyway, my friend came out at a young age, and thought she was going to be the type of lesbian who went to P'Town or lives in Northampton. She REALLY strongly identified with the whole Lesbian thing. Then when she was 17, she fell in love with a boy, and was REALLY freaked out. She went through grief and mourning etc.
T make a long story short, it's all in how you look at things.
 
deafdyke said:
How do you know being born with hearing loss doesn't give them advantages? I've been told by hearing people they envy the fact that I can turn off my hearing. I think I can speak up on this b/c I actually underwent surgery that would have made me hearing. (no hearing aids, no abnormal audiogram) I did undergo the surgery, and at first it worked, and I was elated......Then it failed, and it was the best thing ever for me.....I realized I simply had not come to terms with being deaf before.
A kid can live a rich full life without hearing. They can drive, make friends, have families, have careers etc etc etc....anything that a hearing person can do.......except hear. Why is hearing such a big deal?
To me it's like you're saying " Why would you deny a kid the chance to be hetrosexual or gender normative or a boy or any other majority status.
It's not the lack of a sense that's the problem....it's the way that society approaches it that's the problem. I know GLB teens who wish they were straight b/c of societal attitudes. Conversely I know a woman who was born into a very libral family. Her mom is EXTREMELY GAY. Picture the type of gay womyn you'd see at an Ani or an Indigo Girls concert. That's Nancy to a T. As a result Hannah grew up in a family/setting where being gay was the norm/celebrated.
Anyway, my friend came out at a young age, and thought she was going to be the type of lesbian who went to P'Town or lives in Northampton. She REALLY strongly identified with the whole Lesbian thing. Then when she was 17, she fell in love with a boy, and was REALLY freaked out. She went through grief and mourning etc.
T make a long story short, it's all in how you look at things.
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And so much of what you write sounds to me like you would deny the chance to hear to those that disagree with you and want it just because of when the loss occurred (as a few posts above where you say "I don't think they should cure pediatric hearing loss.")!
 
Jane B. said:
Why do you care if it results in "hearing like a hearing person" or not if it results in very good communication?
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deafdyke
The above quote of my post is from post #10 and I don't think this is the only thread I have brought it up in only to never get a reply. Why are you soooo stuck on any procedure needing to result in hearing like a hearing person? To me as someone that lost all hearing in one ear at age 5 and had the other one go down as an adult to the print that it is now profound communication is much more important to me than if it sounds like it originally did or not. And don't say "just use ASL" I, for one, am in an area where it has been literally many years since I have seen anyone sign. Yes, classes in ASL are still offered by the local community college (hearing instructor) but I don't see anyone using it. Communication takes at least two people.
 
There are intense feelings on both sides. The Deaf Community has the view that there is nothing wrong and doesn't wish to lose members. On the other hand, the early years of a child's development depends on good hearing for later life communication with the hearing world.

These are contentious issues. In the end, the best interest of the child needs to be considered.

I've been following the research and I'm hoping there will be a solution for me in my lifetime.

It's been a long road..
 
deafdyke said:
How do you know being born with hearing loss doesn't give them advantages? I've been told by hearing people they envy the fact that I can turn off my hearing. I think I can speak up on this b/c I actually underwent surgery that would have made me hearing. (no hearing aids, no abnormal audiogram) I did undergo the surgery, and at first it worked, and I was elated......Then it failed, and it was the best thing ever for me.....I realized I simply had not come to terms with being deaf before.
A kid can live a rich full life without hearing. They can drive, make friends, have families, have careers etc etc etc....anything that a hearing person can do.......except hear. Why is hearing such a big deal?
To me it's like you're saying " Why would you deny a kid the chance to be hetrosexual or gender normative or a boy or any other majority status.
It's not the lack of a sense that's the problem....it's the way that society approaches it that's the problem. I know GLB teens who wish they were straight b/c of societal attitudes. Conversely I know a woman who was born into a very libral family. Her mom is EXTREMELY GAY. Picture the type of gay womyn you'd see at an Ani or an Indigo Girls concert. That's Nancy to a T. As a result Hannah grew up in a family/setting where being gay was the norm/celebrated.
Anyway, my friend came out at a young age, and thought she was going to be the type of lesbian who went to P'Town or lives in Northampton. She REALLY strongly identified with the whole Lesbian thing. Then when she was 17, she fell in love with a boy, and was REALLY freaked out. She went through grief and mourning etc.
T make a long story short, it's all in how you look at things.
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it is very serious!! look likes very personal family and situation! open public!


you said

How do you know being born with hearing loss doesn't give them advantages?

edit: what do you talk not doesn't work impossible. it doesn't think so things
 
Smithtr said:
it is very serious!! look likes very personal family and situation! open public!


you said

How do you know being born with hearing loss doesn't give them advantages?

edit: what do you talk not doesn't work impossible. it doesn't think so things
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I agree!
 
Jane B. said:
deafdyke
The above quote of my post is from post #10 and I don't think this is the only thread I have brought it up in only to never get a reply. Why are you soooo stuck on any procedure needing to result in hearing like a hearing person? To me as someone that lost all hearing in one ear at age 5 and had the other one go down as an adult to the print that it is now profound communication is much more important to me than if it sounds like it originally did or not. And don't say "just use ASL" I, for one, am in an area where it has been literally many years since I have seen anyone sign. Yes, classes in ASL are still offered by the local community college (hearing instructor) but I don't see anyone using it. Communication takes at least two people.
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Jane, you're approaching this from the perspective of a postlingally/late deafened person who most likely didn't get much exposure to the Deaf community. You most likely live in a rural or not diverse community either.
Many dhh kids ALREADY get exposure to artifical HOH level "hearing" through CIs and HAs. I'm pro full toolbox.......They can get ASL through their schools (they can move there) and exposure to kids like them. Heck you could prolly say the same about encountering gay people or other minorities. Once you full toolbox a kid, they'll have all the tools possible.
You're also missing that speech only, doesn't really translate into deep profound language access....hell even hearing people don't always have the most sophsicated language.
 
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