Please help me to understand why God kill children and newborns

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Yes all those children and babies are innocents now with God. If God waited until they are in their adults they would turned into like their own parents. God prefer not to. (Remember sin equal death) since the children not knowing from bad and good, they're with God.

Murder is the unlawful killing of someone. God doesn't break His own laws. He had to destroy the spread of their sinful influence that could have destroyed even more people in future generations if they had been allowed to live.

God knew that if those children grew up they would become adult idolaters and sinners who would eventually die in their sins and go to hell. Instead, He mercifully took them out of that evil future into paradise instead. It's mercy of God because He is all knowing; it's not mercy of humans to do that because they don't have the same knowledge of the future and hearts that God has.

I thought that you know it's wrong to kill the innocent children because their parents were bad?

They weren't supposed to be punished for the sins of their parents, don't they?

Egyptian newborns have to die because Pharaoh refused to let his Hebrew slaves free to Moses. God should do something to Pharaoh, not to firstborns, don't he?

Look at kind of world we have at present time, there're good and bad people around the world. We have bad people who have babies and children... Why can't our law kill them to prevent them from become bad like their parents?

I don't see why the people think God kill the innocent babies and children is okay and abortion is not okay? :confused:

I ask question to myself: Is God really loving or not?




I hope this question doesn't mean to hurt you all but I need your help to understand why God killed children and newborns.
 
Egyptian newborns have to die because Pharaoh refused to let his Hebrew slaves free to Moses. God should do something to Pharaoh, not to firstborns, don't he?
Moses warned Pharaoh, and Pharaoh refused to obey. Pharaoh was responsible for his own people.

God also provided a way to escape death. It wasn't just for the Jews. If any Egyptians trusted God and followed His directions, then they would be spared from death. Each one made a decision, obey or disobey. The parents were responsible for their own children.


Look at kind of world we have at present time, there're good and bad people around the world. We have bad people who have babies and children... Why can't our law kill them to prevent them from become bad like their parents?
Because they aren't God. They don't know the future but God did and does.


I don't see why the people think God kill the innocent babies and children is okay and abortion is not okay? :confused:
God does what is best for the people because He knows their hearts, and He knows the future. Humans don't have that knowledge.


I ask question to myself: Is God really loving or not?
God loved us so much that He willingly made the ultimate sacrifice for all of us worthless rotten sinners.

God is loving because He has put you in a time and place where you can read His truth. He has given you many opportunities to trust Him. It's up to you to either accept or reject His love.


I hope this question doesn't mean to hurt you all but I need your help to understand why God killed children and newborns.
If your heart and mind are open and willing, the Holy Spirit will guide you. If your goal is accusation and criticism of God then the Holy Spirit will be shut out.
 
Intolerance in the Bible (Book of Mormon)
Bible: Intolerance
This website, The Skeptics Annotated Bible, approaches the Bible from not just a skeptical perspective but from a mocking, intellectually dishonest perspective. It's not a serious questioning by a willing heart.


WikiAnswers - Is God a killer

Please provide the link to support your claim if you disagree with those links, I provide here.
WikiAnswers are unregulated postings by unknown people with whatever axes to grind. What does that have to do with anything?

What is the point of posting my links against your links? Does the number of links each side posts prove anything?

I'm not going to play that game.
 
Death is part of life for everyone. God has a place for those little children and they are much happier than they were ever be here on earth. For instance baby Grace, she was brutal murdered by her mother and step father few months ago and it broke my heart what she went thru but she is at much better place than this so called evil world. Do u think God kill those children few years back, day after christmas big earthquake and big tidal wave kill thousand of children? No, God already knew and prepare to call them home long before it hit them. They already knew ahead but they do not remember when it hit them hard. It is called Life. We all going to die one way or other whether they are little or soooo old or in the middle.
 
I thought that you know it's wrong to kill the innocent children because their parents were bad?

They weren't supposed to be punished for the sins of their parents, don't they?

Egyptian newborns have to die because Pharaoh refused to let his Hebrew slaves free to Moses. God should do something to Pharaoh, not to firstborns, don't he?

Look at kind of world we have at present time, there're good and bad people around the world. We have bad people who have babies and children... Why can't our law kill them to prevent them from become bad like their parents?

I don't see why the people think God kill the innocent babies and children is okay and abortion is not okay? :confused:

I ask question to myself: Is God really loving or not?




I hope this question doesn't mean to hurt you all but I need your help to understand why God killed children and newborns.

I wish ( yeah just sinned for that feeling) God kill Hitler when he was a baby or little boy to save million of lives. But He did not and He allowed it happened and for that many people suffered greatly. Maybe this was one of many reason God did in bible time for same reason as what Hitler did to humanity.
 
Reba had some good answers. :)

We may not fully understand just why God did what He did, God doesn't need our approval, but God needs our trust. The ancient Egyptians served many false gods and disobedience to God is a serious offense. Those who served many false gods, would teach their children and newborns false gods too. Just like how Reba stated, We can't see the whole life the way God can.
 
I wanted to respond to your post, Liebling on another thread, but you say we shouldn't go off topic, and that you created a new thread. I brought one of your post here to respond.

Liebling said:
Yes, I know Christian's view over the difference between OT and NT but it doesn't mean that our view are wrong when we see different. I only express the difference in god's personality between the two testaments OT and NT, that's all.

It has nothing to do with Christianity's view, The Old Testament had no salvation to save anyone from death, Remember Adam and Eve story, You have to truly understand the roots of God's plan. Genesis tells us very specifically that God had gave Adam and Eve everything they could possibly need to be happy, with the exception of one tree (tree of the knowledge of good and evil) You know that story right?

Yes, God made this test to see if Adam and Eve would obey God. Satan is the one who tempt them to disobey God. What did they do? They listened to Satan not God who gave them happiest. God sits back and watches Adam and Eve hoping they will refused Satan's temptation. It didn't happened that way as God was hoping for. Study these very carefully, God did warned them, sinning against God is death. There is nobody that could saved them.

New Testament when there was a Savior that could saved us all from death. Jesus died for us. Did anyone die for those people in the past tense? No.

If you want to blame somebody, God is not the one you should blame. All that had happened was because of the curse of Adam and Eve and Satan. :)

If you understand the story, You'll understand God. :)
 
Reba is absolutely correct what she stated on her post.
 
Exodus 1:22- Then Pharaoh, the king of Egypt, gave this order to the Hebrew midwives, Shiphrah and Puah: "When you help the Hebrew women give birth, kill all the boys as soon as they are born. Allow only the baby girls to live." But because the midwives feared God, they refused to obey the king and allowed the boys to live too. Then the king called for the midwives. "Why have you done this?" he demanded. "Why have you allowed the boys to live?"

"Sir", they told him, "the Hebrew women are very strong. They have their babies so quickly that we cannot get there in time! They are not slow in giving birth like Egyptian women"

So God blessed the midwives, and the Isrelites continued to multiply, growing more and more powerful And because the midwives feared God, he gave them families of their own. Then Pharaoh gave this order to all his people: "Throw all the newborn Israelite boys into the Nile River but you may spare the baby girls."
 
The Birth Of Moses.

Exodus 2:1-15

During the time, a man and a woman from the tribe of Levi got married. The woman became pregnant and gave birth to a son. She saw what a beautiful baby he was and kept him hidden for three months. But when she could no longer hide him, she got a little basket made of papyrus reeds and waterproofed it with tar and pitch. She put the baby in the basket and laid it among the reeds along the edge of the Nile River. The baby's sister then stood by a sistance, watching to see wht would happen to him.

Soon after this, one of Pharaoh's daughters came down to bathe in the river, and her servant girls walked along the riverbank, When the princess saw the little basket among the reeds, she told one of her servant girls to get it for her. As the princess opened it, she found the baby boy. His helpless cries touched her heart. "He must be one of the Hebrew children," she said.

Then the baby's sister approached the princess, "Should I go and find one of the Hebrew women to nurse the baby for you?" she asked.

"Yes, do!" the princess replied, so the girl rushed home and called the baby's mother. "Take this child home and nurse him for me" the princess told her. " I will pay for your help". So the baby's mother took her baby home and nursed him.

Later when he was older, the child's mother brought him back to the princess, who adopted him as her son. The princess named him Moses, for she said "I drew him out of the water."

Many years later, when Moses had grown up, he went out to visit his people, the Israelites, and he saw how hard they were forced to work. During his visit, he saw an Egyptian beating one of the Hebrew slaves. After looking around to make sure no one was watching, Moses killed the Egyptian and buried him in the sand.

The next day as Moses was out visiting his people again, he saw two Hebrew men fighting, "What are you doing, hitting your neighbor like that? " Moses said to the one in the wrong.

"Who do you think you are? " man replied. "Who appointed you to be our prince and judge? Do you plan to kill me as you killed that Egyptian yesterday?"

Moses was badly frightened because he realized that everyone knew what he had done. And sure enough, when Pharaoh heard about it, he gave orders to have Moses arrested and killed, But Moses fled from Pharaoh and escaped to the land of Midian.


2:23-25 Years passed, and the king of Egypt died. But the Israelites still groaned beneath their burden of slavery. They cried out for help, and their pleas for deliverance rose up to God. God heard their cries and remembered his covenant promise to Abraham, Isaac, and Jocob. He looked down on the Israelites and felt deep concern for their welfare.
 
:ty: for response to this thread. I can see that the answer to each question is not exact what I want to ask about but I like Cheri´s answer "We may not fully understand just why God did what He did"

Angel, :ty: for post the story about Moses. Yes it´s an exact same what I have bible here.
 
Moses warned Pharaoh, and Pharaoh refused to obey. Pharaoh was responsible for his own people.

God also provided a way to escape death. It wasn't just for the Jews. If any Egyptians trusted God and followed His directions, then they would be spared from death. Each one made a decision, obey or disobey. The parents were responsible for their own children.

I disagree because it´s Pharaoh who reject, not his own people. God should do something direct Pharaoh, not his people.

Because they aren't God. They don't know the future but God did and does.

but it´s not okay to kill anyone.


God does what is best for the people because He knows their hearts, and He knows the future. Humans don't have that knowledge.

:-o

God loved us so much that He willingly made the ultimate sacrifice for all of us worthless rotten sinners.

I doubt because if he really love us then he should accept what we are.

God is loving because He has put you in a time and place where you can read His truth. He has given you many opportunities to trust Him. It's up to you to either accept or reject His love.


Is it belong loving when he killed the people including children and newborns?


If your heart and mind are open and willing, the Holy Spirit will guide you. If your goal is accusation and criticism of God then the Holy Spirit will be shut out.

I know you said "If" but I do not see anything over our accusation and criticism of God but we all learn from the Bible history what and how God did. If you disagree something then blame the bibical religion author who interpreted the Bible about God and Jesus´s history.

I accept God and Jesus as history what and how they did etc. It doesn´t affect me to know that God is a killer accord the bible. The bible explain the reason why God killed the people.


 
This website, The Skeptics Annotated Bible, approaches the Bible from not just a skeptical perspective but from a mocking, intellectually dishonest perspective. It's not a serious questioning by a willing heart.

I focus this webiste "The Skeptics Annotated Bible". I do not see anything that they mocking and false or make fun of religion beliefs but interpret in their way differently than any bibles what they view from the scriptures. I find interesting.

WikiAnswers are unregulated postings by unknown people with whatever axes to grind. What does that have to do with anything?

I do not see anything wrong with that. LIke what I say before they have their own view.

What is the point of posting my links against your links? Does the number of links each side posts prove anything?

Because it´s too many websites to support that God killed people including children and newborns. I don´t know which one right... If you know which right website to support your belief then provide any links because I want to understand it.

I'm not going to play that game.

I do not force you to provide the link to support your claim if you disagree with both links, I provide here but asking you in polite way. You don´t have to if you don´t want.
 
Death is part of life for everyone. God has a place for those little children and they are much happier than they were ever be here on earth.

I respect your view but I respectfully disagree because killing is not okay.

For instance baby Grace, she was brutal murdered by her mother and step father few months ago and it broke my heart what she went thru but she is at much better place than this so called evil world.

First of all, I am very sad to learn about this because Grace should not die. God has nothing do with those situation but mother & step father. Yeah, what a kind of world we have... Oh well...

Do u think God kill those children few years back, day after christmas big earthquake and big tidal wave kill thousand of children?

No, God has nothing do with this but mother nature itself.
 
I disagree because it´s Pharaoh who reject, not his own people. God should do something direct Pharaoh, not his people.
Leaders are responsible for their people.

You can disagree if you want, that's fine. I'm just telling you like it was.


I doubt because if he really love us then he should accept what we are.
God doesn't want us to live in a world overwhelmed with criminals, hate, and evil.

Do you really want to live in a world where every kind of behavior is allowed, where laws aren't enforced, and no one protects you?



Is it belong loving when he killed the people including children and newborns?
If I explain again, does it really make any difference to you?
 
I focus this webiste "The Skeptics Annotated Bible". I do not see anything that they mocking and false or make fun of religion beliefs but interpret in their way differently than any bibles what they view from the scriptures. I find interesting.
If you don't understand mockery then that would explain why you don't see it.

Anyway, everyone can read your links and see what's there for themselves.


I do not see anything wrong with that. LIke what I say before they have their own view.
As long as you understand and honestly state that those are just personal opinions by unknown people.


Because it´s too many websites to support that God killed people including children and newborns. I don´t know which one right... If you know which right website to support your belief then provide any links because I want to understand it.
The number of websites pro or con any topic prove absolutely nothing. The number of hits you get on a Google search prove nothing.


I do not force you to provide the link to support your claim if you disagree with both links, I provide here but asking you in polite way. You don´t have to if you don´t want.
If God Himself had a website you wouldn't believe it, so what's the point? I do post links but you don't believe them, so what's the point?
 
I wish ( yeah just sinned for that feeling) God kill Hitler when he was a baby or little boy to save million of lives. But He did not and He allowed it happened and for that many people suffered greatly. Maybe this was one of many reason God did in bible time for same reason as what Hitler did to humanity.

:lol: I agree that Hilter is the mainly worst but I must say that he was not only one... check this Killers of the 20th Century

Well, Hilter raised by Catholic parents and was a good and idealistic man ... He was a good painter... and took care of his people, country and make sure that they get job... etc. etc. until he had everything successful and then turn into racism.... bad person.. WWII, .............. because he is a very pride man and think he can rule the world...
 
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