Opinion: No Child Left Behind Act

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No Child Left Behind been signed Jan 2002 by George W Bush.

• More progress was made by nine-year-olds in reading in the last five years than in the previous 28 years combined.
• America's nine-year-olds posted the best scores in reading (since 1971) and math (since 1973) in the history of the report. America's 13-year-olds earned the highest math scores the test ever recorded.
• Reading and math scores for African American and Hispanic nine-year-olds reached an all-time high.
• Math scores for African American and Hispanic 13-year-olds reached an all-time high.
• Achievement gaps in reading and math between white and African American nine-year-olds and between white and Hispanic nine-year-olds are at an all-time low.
• Forty-three states and the District of Columbia either improved academically or held steady in all categories (fourth- and eighth-grade reading and fourth- and eighth-grade math).
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Since I don't see anyone mention about NCLB. What's your thought about it?
 
PowerON said:
Since I don't see anyone mention about NCLB. What's your thought about it?
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Personally, I have mixed feelings about it. In some ways it's been beneficial, but the strong focus on standardized testing is being used as a reason to limit or reduce the arts.
 
i somewhat support it.. but the problem i see is that they only focus on the kids who are in danger in education.... mostly minorites (black, mexicans, learning disabilies, DHH, etc..) but it means that they're giving them more presure to learn, otherwise they can't move on to next grade level or graduate.

i'm not a teacher, or working with any school districts or whatever you call it...

i don't know ttheir opionion on this i don't see myself any improvement. or anything so i don't know.
 
Many Advanced Placement classes were closed and the AP teachers either had to quit or downgrade their curriculum to a lower standard just to keep their jobs. The smart kids are hurt in this process, also the slower kids are given more pressure to do better.
 
Aleser said:
Yup. I'll admit I had my hopes at first, but when the practical issues reared their ugly heads, I saw it for how useless and even damaging it was.
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Not only to the children but to the teachers too. Making us go back to school for a lot more classes or taking more rigorous tests even after some of us have been teaching for 20+ years but not increasing our salaries when we become "highly qualified". It is such a crock of BS. Due to this issue, young people seeking careers turn away from the education field cuz this profession has just become way less appealing due to this law. As a result, teacher shortage could become a crisis in a few years.
 
^I admire the educators that stick around through it. You're doing something great, and deserve to know that. I can't personally imagine having the patience for teaching. :rofl:
 
Aleser said:
^I admire the educators that stick around through it. You're doing something great, and deserve to know that. I can't personally imagine having the patience for teaching. :rofl:
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While I was studying to become a teacher, I was so nervous about having the patience for it cuz I had a short fuse...once I became a teacher, I learned patience and now I dont have a short fuse like I did before with my family and friends. It was a nice surprise! I thought I would become even worse in having no patience. Whew!!!! :wiggle:

U are right...teachers need to have a lot of patience for this job or they will get burnt out quickly. I have seen it happen with others..usually takes them 5 years before they quit or just find a different position in the educational system. I am now in my 5th year and so far dont feel burnt out but a little more frustrated with some of the politics going on. I try not to let them get to be too much.
 
DeafSCUBA98 said:
i somewhat support it.. but the problem i see is that they only focus on the kids who are in danger in education.... mostly minorites (black, mexicans, learning disabilies, DHH, etc..) but it means that they're giving them more presure to learn, otherwise they can't move on to next grade level or graduate.

i'm not a teacher, or working with any school districts or whatever you call it...

i don't know ttheir opionion on this i don't see myself any improvement. or anything so i don't know.
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You made white kids as master and make other races like black or latino looks bad.

That's wrong since I had been at high school with heavily of Mexican students, not all of them are bad as white people does but not right to talk about race colors.

I had seen that some white students are worse than Mexican students does, such as lacking of skill and issue with social.
 
NCLB ACT is full of BS, it won't help with anything.

It does cause more teachers to resign from job and older students are changing their future planning, such as from teacher into nurse and whatever.

I'm against on NCLB and need to be lifted soon, or abandon the law.
 
shel90 said:
While I was studying to become a teacher, I was so nervous about having the patience for it cuz I had a short fuse...once I became a teacher, I learned patience and now I dont have a short fuse like I did before with my family and friends. It was a nice surprise! I thought I would become even worse in having no patience. Whew!!!! :wiggle:

U are right...teachers need to have a lot of patience for this job or they will get burnt out quickly. I have seen it happen with others..usually takes them 5 years before they quit or just find a different position in the educational system. I am now in my 5th year and so far dont feel burnt out but a little more frustrated with some of the politics going on. I try not to let them get to be too much.
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Oh, Your decision for future career was in 90's since NCLB isn't adopted until 2002.
 
Pacman said:
Oh, Your decision for future career was in 90's since NCLB isn't adopted until 2002.
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I graduated with my MA in 2002...wrong timing! Oh well! I still love my job though so no regrets..just wish this stupid law didnt exist.
 
shel90 said:
I graduated with my MA in 2002...wrong timing! Oh well! I still love my job though so no regrets..just wish this stupid law didnt exist.
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Numerous of school districts have violate the NCLB as well, also some of them are losing the federal funding that support school district.

I had seen about what happen in Florida, when Miami school district don't well then governor refuse to give the funds, or even take their funds then give to private school, such as chrsitian school with bunch of conservative christian kids and some of them that gave to great school system with bunch of conservative white kids too. That's fucking not fair to me but racial issue is still existing then they need give so enough funds to school with mostly minorities like black, latino, asian and white immigrant (Russian).
 
besemiasno said:
Many Advanced Placement classes were closed and the AP teachers either had to quit or downgrade their curriculum to a lower standard just to keep their jobs. The smart kids are hurt in this process, also the slower kids are given more pressure to do better.
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Yep, I agree. It has gotten to a point where things are too flexible.

The deaf program in my high school was already doing that to the deaf students. If a deaf student failed a mainstream class, they would simply put "Grades Modified" on their report cards and let them move on to the next grade.

Normally, they do allow that for some non-required classes depending on the circumstance and the class.They did that to me... ONCE. No, I didn't do horribly like 50% of 30%. It was more like 68% or 69%. Unfortunately, the school system I was in didn't have 'D' in their curriculum. It was basically 'A', 'B', 'C', & 'F'. Some hearing students would have some grades modified for similar reasons.

However, they don't do that for required classes. I did fail one section of English, but I took summer school for that.

Back to the "Grades Modified" aspect in regards to deaf students, a lot of these deaf students had their grades modified... even in the required classes. As a result, we had a lot of deaf students graduating from high school with 3rd grade math, reading, and writing.

To make things worse, the deaf department would degrade me every time I made a mistake or got a low grade... and compare me to the other deaf students who were doing better. "You will never get anywhere after high school with grades like that! Look at this boy. He's getting A's and B's on his math test as well as his writing tests! He will succeed! You won't!" Let me remind you, I was taking Trignometry, Pre-Calculus, and English 4 (Senior English). That other guy was doing multiplications (involving numbers from 0 to 100) and writing stuff like "See Dick Run. Run Dick Run." or "The red (adjective) car (noun) drove (verb) on a bumpy (adjective) road (noun)." Psst... he hadn't gotten to the proper/improper noun part or the pronouns part yet.

Before you accuse me of being mean, I honestly think that guy could have done better. His only problem was that he was never really given anything negative. If he did something wrong, they let him. If he failed, they passed him. If he cried, they blamed other people.
 
PowerON said:
Since I don't see anyone mention about NCLB. What's your thought about it?
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As a high school student, I have to say that quite frankly, it sucks. We spend the entire year studying for standardized tests. It's stupid. We're never able to do anything fun because there isn't any time. :(
 
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