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how do i say "i use block sign language"?

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Would it not just be the letters spelled out on the palm then...
 
Never heard that term before, though I do explain POP by saying "writing block letters on my palm."
 
inmate23 said:
sg which would you use?
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Hard to tell because I'm not sure what are you referring to "block".

But the NZSL dictionary explained the meaning of each signs for "block" so you know which sign of Block to use it for.

block bar, be stuck, obstruct
(V) The path has been blocked by debris. The road is blocked by flooding. A fence barred our way. Debris obstructed the track.

block blockage, choke, obstruction
(V) Rust blocked the pipe. It choked the outlet.
(Nc) There's a blockage in the pipe. There's an obstruction in the pipe.

stuck barrier, block, obstacle, trap
(Adj) She was stuck at the side of the road.
(V) His promotion was blocked by the committee. I'm trapped in a low-paid job.
(Nc) He faced many barriers to employment.

block bar, can't do anything, obstruct
(V) The path has been blocked by debris. The road is blocked by flooding. A fence barred our way. Debris obstructed the track.
(Phr) I can't do anything about the situation.
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~SG~ said:
Hard to tell because I'm not sure what are you referring to "block".

But the NZSL dictionary explained the meaning of each signs for "block" so you know which sign of Block to use it for.
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sorry i mean deafblind signing how would you say "i use deafblind signing"
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inmate23 said:
sorry i mean deafblind signing how would you say "i use deafblind signing"
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As for Deafblind NZSL it is a bit different... I don't know NZ Deafblind sign language that very well enough.

But you can contact Blind and Low Vision Education network NZ (Formerly: Homai School for the Blind) in Auckland... They do have DeafBlinds there and where you can learn NZ DeafBlind sign language or find more information.
 
i no how to sign it thats not the issue

the issue is how do i sign "i use the deafblind alphabet" or "i use print on palm" in visual(sighted) nzsl.
 
Steinhauer said:
do you mean tactile sign?
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yes


Print-on-Palm (POP) is a simple method of communicating with a person who is deaf-blind and familiar with printed English.

To use POP: With your index finger, print your message in the palm of the hand of the person who is deaf-blind. To make each letter, follow the diagram below, which indicates the recommended direction, sequence and number of strokes for each letter.

Use capital letters only, except for the letter “i” which is lower case. Print only in the palm area. Do not connect letters. Pause after each word. If you make a mistake, "wipe" the palm, then print the correct letter.

If the person has speech, he or she may say each letter and word aloud as you spell it. This is a good way to know that your message is being understood. AllDeaf.com - View Single Post - what is print on palm (pop) and why i use it
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i need to how to sign 1 sentence in nzsl "i use print on palm signing"
 
since you know no nzsl why not just demonstrate (mime) using POP (hold one of your hands palm up and start writing the alphabet with the index finger of your other hand into your palm ?

(Forgive me if I'm mis understanding ... it sounds like you are trying to communicate via nzsl a specific message, without being familiar with nzsl? If you are able to converse in nzsl then I would just sign "I use deaf+blind sign called B+L+O+C+K." then demonstrate by spelling into your own hand.)

If you try to sign your statement in nszl without knowing any other nzsl - people may assume that you are familiar with at least some nzsl and start signing back to you ...however if you mime/demonstrate using BLOCK/POP then they will very quickly understand that you are able to communicate that way :)

Just an idea
 
BTW - just to clarify.

There are important differences between what the various systems of communication mentioned are.

BLOCK/POP - is a tactile communication system (but not a "sign language") that uses the hands as a form of "paper & pen". To write a sentence using BLOCK/POP you write upper case(capital) letters into the palm of the other person using your index finger. After each word you "wipe" the palm (or sometimes just pause for a 3-4 seconds) to signal the end of that word.

Tactile Sign Language
TSL is a slightly adapted form of the Sign Language used in that area (ASL,BSL,Auslan,NZSL etc). The deafblind person (A) "listening" rests their hands gently on the tops of the hands of the "speaker" (B) so that they are able to feel the movements and hand-shapes of the various signs (including fingerspelling). When the deafblind person(A) wishes to speak they will sign back to the other individual. If the other person (B) is also deafblind, person B will then rest their hands on top of the other person (A) to "listen". Tactile sign language IS a true language, because it is a tactile version of ASL, BSL, Auslan etc which are true languages. (You can also use PSE, MCE etc tacitly)

Another form of communicating with a deaf-blind person that hasn't been mentioned explicitly is fingerspelling into the deaf-blind person's hand - much like BLOCK/POP is done however instead of "printing visual forms of letters tactilely", you fingerspell the words (Rochester Method aka RM) while the Deaf-blind person rests their hand gently on the fingerspellers hand. This technique is more common for those who are unfamilar with visual writing and letters (those that are blind from birth or who learned braille exclusively for writing/reading). Like BLOCK/POP this isn't a "language" rather its a means of communication.

It wouldn't make sense - and would likely confuse people if one was to say " I use BLOCK/POP sign langauge" or "I use fingerspelling-in-hand sign langauge" - rather you'd just say "I can communicate using BLOCK/POP" or "I can communicate using fingerspelling-in-hand" etc

Hope that helps!!
 
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