Navigating Deaf/hearing dates

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No comment from me as I hate it that I'm deaf and I cannot get a deaf girlfriend while those hearing people can get deaf girlfriend.

Valentine


As ads for Princess Cut diamond rings, steak dinners, and Godiva truffles bombard our consciousness, we are reminded of our love lives - or lack thereof. Chances are you have fallen head over heels when a pheromone-tipped Cupid arrow struck. Chances are also that you’ve fought with a sweetie about the usual suspects (money, in-laws, sex, children, and even the toilet seat left up).

The minefield of love and heartbreak is an equal opportunity one. But there’s no mistaking that dating with a hearing loss presents unique challenges – and benefits – that advice gurus like Dr. Pepper Schwartz, Dr. Phil, Ann Landers (of the “Dear Abby” columns) may not have known. That’s why we contacted Shannon Ruane, M.S., CRC, LPC, an ASL-fluent counselor who has counseled numerous Deaf/HH clients, for the straight scoop.

This Philadelphia-based rehabilitation counselor is a cochlear implant recipient who works with CI candidates for pre and post surgical counseling. Her services include psychotherapy, hypnotherapy, counseling deaf and HH individuals and their families, as well as working on hearing loss and communication-related issues.

So we asked: Does being deaf/HH predispose a relationship to greater hardships than if we were hearing? A quick search on the Web shows there’s a statistic, (whether accurate or not) “90% divorce rate for deaf-hearing marriages”.

But let’s look at the bigger picture, Ruane said in an interview with deafREVIEW: “I think the major challenge that people face in relationships is being able to be comfortable with themselves, their own histories, their own 'damage.’ Successful relationships evolve between people who are able to work their damage and co-exist with someone else - in spite of their flaws or weird hang ups. This is true for all couples.”

Confronting this in a healthy way is what builds a strong, lasting relationship. So this Valentine’s Day, let’s cut across the consumerist gloss and add practical tactics into your interactions with the man or woman you love … or are just beginning to date. This week, we will focus on deaf/hearing pairings – next week, stay tuned for the inside scoop on deaf/deaf relationship dynamics!

Dating Tactic #487: Be Honest about Your ______-ness

A wise man once said, “You only get one chance to make a first impression.” So when we meet a new prospective mate, we arm ourselves with breath mints, wrap ourselves in Spanx (or, for denizens of the online dating world, fudge our weight by a pound or ten), and spiffed-up career credentials.

Don’t talk about politics, religion or your ex-wife, dating gurus say - focus on the positives. So it should only be natural that “sometimes the jitters of meeting someone new can create a downplay of someone’s barrier or challenge,” said Ruane.

“Taking an, ‘Oh, don't worry about it - I'm sure we'll communicate just fine' approach may set a tone of mistrust if communication doesn't go smoothly,” she added, noting that “an entire date of dodging awkward moments” may result.

Initially glossing over our needs is what leads many of us into the “nod and pretend we are master lip-readers” syndrome when we are eager to please. But if you’re not actually a master lip-reader (and most likely you’re not, as we discussed in a previous lipreading article), that could be a tough pill to swallow once the date becomes a long-term relationship.

Out … with our deaf-ness, or hard of hearing-ness.

In … with a potentially awesome relationship.

Dating Tactic #253: Take the Lead

It takes two to tango – and one to take the lead. It’s not so much about alphas and betas, as it is about teaching a hearing date how to communicate in a deaf realm. Or, in the case of an ASL-fluent deaf person dating someone who has hearing loss but was raised oral, it helps to set boundaries.

“Use this as an opportunity to help your date learn more about you,” says Ruane. “Make suggestions about what works for you and what doesn't. I say 'suggestions' because you're also scoping them out as a potential mate and you also want to see some willingness and interest on their part to work with you.”

Explain beforehand that dark restaurants and crowded house parties are a speechreading dud. Quickly demonstrate why naturally-paced, clear speech trumps exaggerated enunciation any day. If you need to write notes in a noisy date environment … so be it! Harken back to high school days of illicit note-passing: A notepad of people-watching doodles could be just the icebreaker you both need.

Speaking of more dating suggestions …

Dating Tactic #458: Find a Deaf-Friendly Date Spot

Location, location, location isn’t just a real estate mantra – it’s applicable to our love lives, too. After all, you want to tell your future grandchildren where to visit the site of your amazing first date, right?

“Stick to familiar stomping grounds such as a restaurant or coffee shop you know has good lighting and acoustics,” suggested Ruane. Also, consider going to a place where you’re a regular and the wait staff knows you (and knows how to take your order).

This applies whether your date is hearing or deaf, because being in a new place with a new person can be nerve-wracking. But for the more adventure-inclined, Groupon, Tippr and LivingSocial deals are your best friend. Ruane suggests indoor mini-golf, museum exhibits, rock climbing, and dance or acrobatic performances for fun first dates.

“Try and find something that would be fun for you, but you likely wouldn't do on your own - that way if the date is a bust and has you wanting to head for the hills, at least you had fun and can finally cross that *'glow in the dark country line dancing' off your bucket list!”

*EDITOR’S NOTE: She’s not kidding. Glow-in-the-dark country line dancing actually does exist in some parts of the country, and LivingSocial posted a deal last November!

Dating Tactic #587: Ditch the Group Date (and Dinner, For That Matter)

Elle’s agony aunt Auntie E. Jean wrote: “The best dating tip I've offered in my 19 years as an advice columnist: Never go to dinner on the first date. Go anywhere—the juke joint, the pool hall, the sculpture garden at the museum—but, by God, steer clear of restaurants!”

Unless you’re both certified foodies who can talk non-stop about food, first-time dinner dates feel like job interviews. You are being sussed out from head to toe, for long-term mating potential (the latest urban dating trend: dating by credit score) … before your house salad arrives.

Group dates are the best first dates! is the logic we were taught by many a dating guru. But the dynamic is different when one of you is deaf/HH, and the other is hearing.

“It's often best to do one-on-one dates in the beginning before diving into group settings,” says Ruane. “You want to become comfortable with one another and learn how to best communicate before attempting a social setting where you're surrounded by all deaf or all hearing - that could add unnecessary stress in the beginning before you've developed coping skills as a couple and are familiar with how to help you support one another.”

Dating Tactic #524: Bad First Date? Don’t Throw in the Towel (Yet)

Disastrous dates are the stuff of Hollywood cinema, following every formula imaginable: Questionable hair gel, a mismatched blind date between an unimpressed nine and a star-struck four, lackluster chemistry, and so on. But they’re not the end of the world.

“If the motivation is not evident with the very first date, don't throw in the towel - some of the best relationships are the ones where couples fumble about in the beginning and grow stronger together over time,” Ruane said.

Stay Tuned For Our Next Two Relationship Articles

Whether we’re eternal singletons or halves of happily married pairs, we’re always evolving – and so are our relationships (or pursuit thereof). Stay tuned for our follow-up articles in the coming weeks- about dating tips for deaf/deaf relationships, how to handle breakups and exes within the tight-knit Deaf Community, dealing with extended social networks (like in-laws), and language barriers. After all, isn’t your love life worth constructive self-examination, long after your Valentine roses have wilted?
 
Yah the dinner date. I am glad they slammed that idea to the curb. I have experienced some nightmarish dinner dates in fact do not remember one that was ever good- not in the beginning anyway.
They do make for a built in easy way out. Just be weird at the table. Eat with your face three inches from the plate. Undress the waitress with your eyes. Put way too much salt on your food. Do a rooster pantomine complete with chesty strut and cockadoodle doo.
In fact do anything or do nothing either way you are hosed the critical eye of the human female is upon you - even if they are laughing at your jokes and showing no sign of being critical at all believe me brother you are in laser beam focus being cooked. Not only that paying for the privilege. Sucks bigtime.
 
Dating Tactic #487: Be Honest about Your ______-ness

Good advice. However, there are a few pitfalls with this one.
1. If you put down you are deaf on a hearing dating site, you are NOT going to get a lot of mail(or any).
2. If you leave it out, make sure you put in you would rather meet before talking on the phone so you can explain your position.
3. If she needs to talk on the phone, throw the fish back and cast the line again.
Dating Tactic #253: Take the Lead

I agree. I can only add that you use a cell phone instead of a pad of paper.
Dating Tactic #458: Find a Deaf-Friendly Date Spot

I agree. You have to suggest the first place to meet. Very important.


And, never pick a place or activity you don't want to do.

Dating Tactic #587: Ditch the Group Date (and Dinner, For That Matter)

Also agree. No group dates. It should be just you and her.


Suggest coffee or activity first(drink is fine, but don't get drunk)

However, if she asks for dinner and you say no you are already off to a bad start. So, if this happens, find places that are within your price range and are suitable to your condition(no live bands).
Dating Tactic #524: Bad First Date? Don’t Throw in the Towel (Yet)

Agree. However, if she can’t deal with your hearing loss it’s a deal breaker, she’s done. Stay Tuned For Our Next Two Relationship Articles
 
No comment from me as I hate it that I'm deaf and I cannot get a deaf girlfriend while those hearing people can get deaf girlfriend.

This isn't confined to the deaf community; I have siblings that haven't married yet, myself included. No one can just run out and get a girlfriend or boyfriend. No matter the circumstances, it all requires work.

Laura
 
No comment from me as I hate it that I'm deaf and I cannot get a deaf girlfriend while those hearing people can get deaf girlfriend.

Don't be so glum, derek. You can get a deaf girlfriend. It is just only a matter of time. Don't push yourself too hard on that. Just let it be and let it happen naturally. Be patient and who knows, Ms. Right will come along.
 
The real problem with dating for me was alway getting the dates in the first place then being a desirable enough date that she would want me around again. After that it was easy.

Of course I had other strikes against me besides being way hard of hearing. I always had a lousy job or was it that I was a lousy worker? No matter it never seemed to work out right. I often smell bad and my jokes suck. I am sociallly awkward and often say what I really think. Am not interested in competitive sports at all. I am the worst muffdiver in the world. I go away easy. I don't blame women for not wanting me there are times I don't want me either. Somehow with all of that going on I have one. Miracles do happen.
 
The real problem with dating for me was alway getting the dates in the first place then being a desirable enough date that she would want me around again. After that it was easy.

Of course I had other strikes against me besides being way hard of hearing. I always had a lousy job or was it that I was a lousy worker? No matter it never seemed to work out right. I often smell bad and my jokes suck. I am sociallly awkward and often say what I really think. Am not interested in competitive sports at all. I am the worst muffdiver in the world. I go away easy. I don't blame women for not wanting me there are times I don't want me either. Somehow with all of that going on I have one. Miracles do happen.

Oh, dang. Before I got to the bolded, I was going to ask you out. :wave: :)
 
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