N.J. senator proposes toy gun ban

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Would make it illegal for anyone under 18 to purchase toy gun

(New Jersey- WABC, July 11, 2007) - A New Jersey senator wants to make it illegal to sell or give to anyone under age 18 toy guns that look so realistic they can be mistaken for a real firearm.
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"The margin between a child's stupid mistake and a tragic ending is far too thin," said Sen. Nicholas Scutari.

Scutari, D-Union, introduced the proposal in late June and plans to push it when the Legislature reconvenes late this year. He said the bill stems from an incident in a Union Township where four students were suspended after bringing a cap gun to school.

"We need to stress to our children that guns are not toys, but deadly weapons which should always be regarded with extreme caution and handled with respect," Scutari said. "Restricting access to imitation firearms will help to drive that point home."

Gun rights advocates plan to fight the bill.

"It misses the mark because it demonizes toys instead of criminal behavior," said Scott Bach, president of the New Jersey Association of Rifle and Pistol Clubs, which is the National Rifle Association's New Jersey organization.

If the measure is enacted, New Jersey would join several states that have restricted access to realistic toy guns to minors.

New York, for instance, got Wal-Mart in 2003 to stop selling toy guns that fail to have a non-removable orange stripe along the barrel. The retailer also agreed to stop selling toy guns in realistic colors such as black, blue and silver and paid $200,000 in civil penalties.

Scutari's bill would make it illegal to sell or give to anyone under 18 and imitation firearm, which is defined as anything "reasonably capable of being mistaken for a firearm."

The bill is based on a 1987 New Jersey law that bars the sale of hunting, fishing, combat and survival knives with blades of more than five inches to anyone under 18.

Violators would face a fine of up to $1,000 and up to six months in prison.

Scutari said the bill would help police and school officials figure out whether a firearm is either fake or real, but Bach said it would intrude upon retailers and parents.

"This bill seeks to intimidate retailers of even toy water pistols rather than to address the bad acts of criminals who use imitation guns in furtherance of crime," Bach said. "A parent who gives a child a toy firearm as a gift would be guilty under this legislation."

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If I was under 18, I will have to carry a banana for my protection if it passes. :-b
 
Does it include with water gun? Children has fun with water gun at summer time.
 
Water guns are toy guns. Water guns would be included if they look realistic.
 
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Oh, thankfully, I don't live in NJ.
 
Water guns are toy guns. Water guns would be included if they look realistic.

unless water gun is neon green, orange, yellow or red would be fine. not black or made gun look a real same water gun. <----banned.
I like in 70's style water guns but for today they make look real gun <---nuts.
 
unless water gun is neon green, orange, yellow or red would be fine. not black or made gun look a real same water gun. <----banned.
I like in 70's style water guns but for today they make look real gun <---nuts.

Water guns would be fine if they look neon. Unfortunately, you can make a water gun look realistic if you paint it with a black spray. :hmm:
 
Water guns would be fine if they look neon. Unfortunately, you can make a water gun look realistic if you paint it with a black spray. :hmm:

I give you a basic sample what look likely between color gun and look real one.

here show plastic color gun
http://images.jupiterimages.com/common/detail/57/62/23376257.jpg

here show look real gun (water gun)
http://www.costumesinc.com/Costumes/images/medium/392.jpg


so you can paint cover plastic color gun as it is fake and other one was uzi machine gun look real but actual itself water gun. much different.
 
you seem don't understand what i give you sample that i provide second link show look real one same as you give a link. Not like in 1970's law where they don't make real one. They use colors. Today is too lax laws. They need modified and restriction law about guns to prevent being confession look real gun is actual water gun. They need go back to 1970's colors water guns. People is retard behave. That is real stinks!.
 
This reminds me of a toy I wish I had when I was a kid... Megatron, leader of the Decepticons Transformers.

That's probably the only Transformers they were never allowed to remake. :(
 
you seem don't understand what i give you sample that i provide second link show look real one same as you give a link. Not like in 1970's law where they don't make real one. They use colors. Today is too lax laws. They need modified and restriction law about guns to prevent being confession look real gun is actual water gun. They need go back to 1970's colors water guns. People is retard behave. That is real stinks!.


I have been trying to read your earlier statement. Can you rephrase for me, please?

are you saying that if you can spray paint all over a water gun, but it looks fake, and uzi machine gun looks real is water gun, right?
 
This reminds me of a toy I wish I had when I was a kid... Megatron, leader of the Decepticons Transformers.

That's probably the only Transformers they were never allowed to remake. :(

lol! Oh, gosh. I used to watch the original Transformers when I was a kid. That show was the best.
 
Despite being (possibly because I am) an NRA trainer, and gun rights activist, I understand some of where this bill is going.

I feel desperately sorry for Law Enforcement personel who see a kid with what looks like a gun, behaving in a threatening manner (possibly in play, possibly not).

They have a split second to decide "Am I going to shoot at, possibly kill, this kid for what might be a toy gun, or am I going to risk getting killed by what might be a real gun."

Anyone can paint an orange/red band black, equally, (and less talked about) there's nothing to stop a real villain painting a red band on a real gun to gain a few extra seconds so he can kill the poor confused officer.

I've nothing against kids playing with guns, but I'm not sure how to keep them off the streets with them - and that's what we need to do.
 
Sigh...ban the toy gun isn't going to help reduce the problem with guns out there. They need to get rid of all real guns. Violence on TV or have toy gun is not going to affect children's behavior but having a real gun and coming from irresponsibility family does have a big impact on children.

Japan have so many violence on television for young children but yet children won't touch the gun. Why? Because it's illegal in Japan! Their crime rate is very low. Yet, in US, we have soccer moms that work to reduce violence on TV for children and violence on television is low in compare to Japan's, but yet our crime rate is so bad here. What have went wrong? Certainly not a toy gun. :roll:

No wonder US is the leading country in the world in death from gun-related incidents. After all we are one of very few developed countries that allowed people to own a gun.
 
...Anyone can paint an orange/red band black, equally, (and less talked about) there's nothing to stop a real villain painting a red band on a real gun to gain a few extra seconds so he can kill the poor confused officer.
Good points.
 
"No wonder US is the leading country in the world in death from gun-related incidents."

Not true.

NationMaster - Statistics > Gun violence > Homicides > % homicides with firearms (Latest available) by country

We do, however, have the dubious honor of being first for assaults, car thefts and rapes. Is this also because we own too many guns? Like many liberals, you put the cart before the horse.

US is still ranked number 7 and this is still bad. Those situations you mentioned probably happened often because bad guy had a gun to threat the victims, otherwise they could have fought back (that is just my guess). I don't know a lot about them since stats does not offer a lot of information other than just numbers.

My point is, by allowing people to own a gun is making thing heck a lot easier for bad guy and children to screw up.

As long as the guns are available no one is going to stop buy em, especially not bad guys.
 
...As long as the guns are available no one is going to stop buy em, especially not bad guys.
If the guns are taken from the law-abiding "good" guys, who will be safe from the guns of all the criminal "bad" guys?

I'm thankful for our Second Amendment rights. :)
 
If you are referring to polices and soldiers. Yeah, they should have guns.


It's sort of like a cycle thing. Good guy said they need a gun for protection, then that means bad guy can have it too.

I just think (of course it's my opinion, not other people's) it's a lot more safe to depend on cops rather than on citizens for protection which is what lot of people did in other countries.

But even if we ban guns, there's already too many guns in America to do anything about it. We are pretty much stuck with it whether people like it or not. And we are already pretty used to hear news about victims of gun-related incidents anyway.
 
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