Move over cyborg queen! The Ambling Rambler sets new CI record at -5db!

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I was told that 10db was the best possible CI score and that 0db was impossible with CI and for the matter, with HA. Note that -5db is better than 0db! I will need an official HA test to confirm the 0db aided score at 125Hz. However at that frequency, I hear better than hearing people. I don't have enough residual hearing to achieve 0db at above 250Hz. However I am interested in those with only a mild/moderate HL getting their HAs programmed for gains equal to their HL and ending up with 0db aided. Don't you want to hear great at 0db?

I would be very interested to see how it was possible for her to achieve this record breaking CI results. Her audiologists and surgeon(s) should investigate and discover the factors contributing to such a steller result. They then can learn and share the knowlege with others and help improve CI technology. This will allow more people to end up hearing better with CI over what the best HAs with maximum gains could offer. It would also decrease the number of people who hear worse after CI, especially the borderline candidates with plenty of residual hearing and who should benefit great from HAs.

You can check my blog per the link in my sig. I have given her credit and recognition and linked to her blog from my blog.
 
Yea man I was saying the same thing! I nearly fell out of my chair when I saw her CI score. But it does prove that 0db and even -5db is possible with CI. Been a while since we talked. Hope to see you online soon.
 
But is this even possible? A few people have told me it is not
 
They also said it was impossible for man to fly. But he did. They also said it was impossible that the earth was NOT the center of the universe/solar system. But that was also proven wrong. They said it was impossible for humanity to harness the power of lightning (electricity). But it was done. They also said it was impossible for the colonies to become free from British Rule and establish a new nation. But they did.

Okay I'm getting a bit out there with examples, but there are plenty more out there of people saying "It's Impossible" but proving that assertion wrong.

You can't say "it's impossible" when the results are proven with actual data on an audiogram. Obviously different results are going to be obtained from different people with different levels of HL, of course. But their assertion? My professional opinion in the face of such awesome results? Hogwash. :)
 
This is a bad idea. The reason you shouldn't go that low is because there is a limited dynamic range. If you hear down to -5 db, you won't be able to hear louder tha 75 db. That isn't much louder than conversation speech.

This person doesn't have a responsible audiologist.
 
faire_jour said:
This is a bad idea. The reason you shouldn't go that low is because there is a limited dynamic range. If you hear down to -5 db, you won't be able to hear louder tha 75 db. That isn't much louder than conversation speech.

This person doesn't have a responsible audiologist.
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Is this true, people? It does not seem true about not being able to hear louder than 75db. I know for a fact the woman CAN hear louder than 75
 
DeafLissa90 said:
Is this true, people? It does not seem true about not being able to hear louder than 75db. I know for a fact the woman CAN hear louder than 75
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The CI can only capture sound in a 80db "window". So if she is hearing down to -5, the CI can't process sound louder than 75 db.
 
faire_jour said:
This is a bad idea. The reason you shouldn't go that low is because there is a limited dynamic range. If you hear down to -5 db, you won't be able to hear louder tha 75 db. That isn't much louder than conversation speech.

This person doesn't have a responsible audiologist.
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Her CI probably has compression where it reduces the "gain" of loud sounds. All sounds louder than 75db very well may sound the same 75db loudness. Who cares about uncomfortably loud sounds? What's important is hearing the faintest sounds and she is the current world record holder of this. I remember you saying 0db was impossible with HA or even CI for the matter, guess it's possible after all.


faire_jour said:
The CI can only capture sound in a 80db "window". So if she is hearing down to -5, the CI can't process sound louder than 75 db.
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So doesn't her CI simply reduce any sounds louder than 75db down to 75db? I know my HAs have something called MPO/SPL which is the ceiling. I use 100% compression to simulate a larger dynamic range. What compression does is give the max gain for faint sounds but the gain isn't linear as sounds get louder. Sounds that are already very loud recive little gain and will never exceed the SPL/MPO, say it's set at 120 then the loudest ill hear is 120db which is enough and any higher would exceed the UCL. For CI, this is called the C or comfort levels.
 
FEI (for everyone's information) Ambling rambler has Freedom Implant (her third implant in 15 years).

Freedom has smallest DR I think about 50db or so, Will ask SLT this afternoon.

AB 80db (although I found one info stating 95db)
MED-EL 75db
 
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