starrygaze
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Ever you see the most beautiful sight of milky Way in the sky on high mounation over 8,000 ft? It was so awesome when you can feel like you were there!
Theseus said:No, have never seen it from an elev. of 8,000 feet before. Sounds like the remote desert! In the desert, stars give the illusion of being so close that you think you can touch them. My dad works in the desert in Algeria and when I look at the photos, the desert sky is a pasty blue during the daytime making it look almost fake.
Endymion, it seems you are a huge fan of what lies outside the Local Group of galaxy clusters. Have you ever heard of dark matter? It is said that as much as 90% of the universe may be dark matter. The naked human eye cannot see it because dark matter lies outside the eye's visible light spectrum but can include planets, stars, galaxies, black holes and more.
VamPyroX said:Umm... how can we see the Milky Way? Aren't we in the Milky Way?
Boult said:Here's a awesome photo that was snapped back in Arizona by Astrophoto by Tony and Daphne Hallas of Astro Photo
http://www.ngcic.org/milkyway/default.htm
more on milky way
http://seds.lpl.arizona.edu/messier/more/mw.html
gnarlydorkette said:Saw the stars and milky way last Saturday as we drove through the desert between Palm Springs and POway. No city lights to glare out the starry skies. it was wonderful to see the stars again. I have to say my favorite spot to stargaze is somewhere between Mammoth Mountains and Bishop at 4am on Janurary 2nd... saw a lot of shooting stars! and it was gorgeous to see the snow-white mountains reaching into the dark sky...
Endymion said:Theseus, it's excellent that you brought up dark matter! Dark matter is a fascinating subject, especially since only about 4% of the matter in the universe is baryonic ("normal"). 22% is dark matter, and the remaining 74% is an even stranger substance called dark energy.
The kind of dark matter you mention (which is excellent, I'm impressed!) is called baryonic dark matter and comprises of objects like brown dwarfs and other large cosmological things that we can't easily observe.
Non-baryonic dark matter is what's especially interesting. This kind of matter doesn't emit any sort of electromagnetic radiation, even outside of the part of the spectrum that we do see.
The presence of is somewhat controversial, but is generally accepted. There have been other theories to try and explain the effects we see in galaxy structures without the presence of dark matter. Two notable classes of theories are Modified Newtonian Dynamics (MOND) and theories that attempt to reconcile gravitation and quantum mechanics. It's all fascinating!
This should give you a general idea of where they are in California. Yahoo Map - Southern CA - Palm Springs and Powaystarrygaze said:dont you mind where? Palm Spring and POway? I will look up in google
Yeah, me too. When I was in the service out on the ocean I never realized how many stars there are out there because you just cant see them all because of the city lights. I wonder if you see more stars on the ocean than you do on the mountain tops. Perhaps it depends on how close the nearest city is. I have always been facinated by astronomy.Endymion said:Ooh! Another astronomy buff!
I'm a huge fan of the night sky, but like exploring beyond the Local Group galaxy cluster.
starrygaze said:Yes I believe there is a life out there but possibly more than life out there too. there are billion stars in our Milky Way galaxy if there is no life then they are waste but beautiful. I am saving money to buy telescope.
I watched Contact, my favorite movie.
I believe there are in work to build Terrestrial Planet Finder. They will find earth-like planets. Maybe next decade will tell? I will be 45 years old. There will be big technology to see the life out there.
http://planetquest.jpl.nasa.gov/TPF/detectionMilestone.cfm