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Let Fool be Fool

From time to time I've seen arguement gone bad and things got personal. This forum is a forum where we discuss about certain topics or concerns that we have concerning the deaf community, how we deal with things, current events and such. If you, yes I mean you, find anyone trying to offend you, or that you find it offensive, it is BEST not to retaliate (To return evil for evil), but to let things pass. Oftentimes when anybody find my statement offensive, EVEN IF I DON'T FIND IT OFFENSIVE, I just apologize and let begone BEGONE, regardless of who's fault and who's not. My best suggestion is this: Let Fool be Fool. I don't mean that you can say "I'll let you be a fool so I'll be quiet" or something similiar to that, just let it slide and move on into another thread. If anybody directly attack you, just ignore them and move on to another thread. Things will pass away.

PLEASE don't attack anybody over Private Messages either. PM is intended to communicate or/and to solve, NOT as a tool to retaliate.

Thank You,


Scott
 
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Since LinuxGold made a thread, and locked it I cannot respond back to it, So I made a thread to start with.;)

The past few days and recently, more and more, a person is insulting other people. I don't know what the reasons are for this person to do such things, if these views are out there then it is up to others to address and reply. This unfortunately can lead to what is referred to a "Flame" creating a bushfire of replies. For some reason, they don't "get" that they are hurting real people, now I am not talking about the ones who replies, I am talking about ones that made a view of opinion that has no common sense.

There are AllDeaf members here who would want to leave this community, because of what happened last night. It makes me angry because, Magatsu made really good points and I learned a lot by him. I would hate it if he leave here.:(

We need to keep this focus. People should come here to share some pointers, ask some questions, etc. What have I seen in here lately issues that some might consider offensive in nature? If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. Everyone is here to discuss a subject that is fun, exciting and deeply personal.
 
huh?

I honestly wasn't aware there was a situation going on last night, I must have missed it , but I wasn't on line last night anyhow...Magatsu leaving AD? Why???? :(

I've noticed when a mod created a sticky thread then suddenly closed/locked it....I personally think it's important to hear other members feedbacks, views, opinions, or advices because we CAN help solve a situation by working together as a team but that's just my personal opinion....

No matter what forum we go to, there always will be people coming in and out by insulting one other, and the only good advice is to ignore them and let it go, then hopefully mods will take care of whoever is causing the problem... ;)

I hope to see this forum a peaceful and friendly one!.... :grouphug:

btw Magatsu, You've created so many amazing, interesting threads and posts, Please do not leave just because someone is insulting you, I've been there before myself, and hey? I'm still hanging around!...I do hope you change your mind! :(
 
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I saw some of the posts yesterday, and I know where you're coming from, Cheri.

Mag ~ I love reading your posts in AllDeaf and have found them to be engrossing and informative. Please do not leave because of a few narrow-minded, opinated bigots. They are a dime a dozen, and you are a gold mine.

Please reconsider.
 
Im upset that Magastu took his leave :(

Why do a few rotten apples in a barrel of apples have to ruin it ALL for others :pissed:

Hope he will return soon.
 
I honestly wasn't aware there was a situation going on last night, I must have missed it , but I wasn't on line last night anyhow
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It's not only last night, There been before few days ago. For example a person made a post regarding about Indiana peers and that was uncall for. Some people got hurt by that respond and it is unacceptable. If you feel that you hurt someone, It shows mature to apology. Calling people lazy because they want to shop at stores instead of on line. it goes on and on and I am getting fed up with it. Why isn't he warned? Why isn't he banned? We are supposed to just ignored it like nothing happened?
 
Cheri said:
It's not only last night, There been before few days ago. For example a person made a post regarding about Indiana peers and that was uncall for. Some people got hurt by that respond and it is unacceptable. If you feel that you hurt someone, It shows mature to apology. Calling people lazy because they want to shop at stores instead of on line. it goes on and on and I am getting fed up with it. Why isn't he warned? Why isn't he banned? We are supposed to just ignored it like nothing happened?
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I agree, Cheri. I was peeved off with his Indian remarks and he wont apologize to us, Indians - he just likes to start fires and let all of us do the dirty work of cleaning up the fires.
 
I really don't want to post in here or any topics at this moment but I want to grab the opportunity before anyone start to point a finger at each other... Also I don't want to be dramatic about this so I am trying to be not.

I must admit that it is partly my fault. I went overboard with one guy (not ravensteve) and other one gal. 'One guy' and I was sort of 'good buddies' but at the end, well, unnecessary to say any more, you know the result. I have regretted what I said but I haven't regretted what I stand for. I tried to solve the problem by pm'ing but unfortunately it had to brought it up in the public or neglected instead (both of us have a bad day). That's where and when I made a decision and bid you all a good farewell. I probably will come back... probably never will. I am taking a time-out from this community so all of things can be simmer down. AD members can do whatever they want to do or say without having to deal with my thought-provoking comments and my brutally honesty. AD community is beyond wonderful, there is no doubt about it [Alex: You rock :thumb:]. It is due to my bluntness which tend to get me into trouble because of my 'speak my mind' attitude. It is entirely up to you to judge me based on my 'speak my mind' attitude and my posts or not. There, I share my side of this situation with all of you to reduce the confusion. I am taking the responsibility for it and leave this community (temporary or permanent) with pride that I know what I am making a right choice in this matter.

LinuxGold have a good point about 'Let Fool be Fool' but naturally, I disagree with one of his points... nevertheless I believe he know what he is talking about.

I could make a list about members for 'farewell'... but I think it is unnecessary since whoever know me will know what I think of them. And... I may will come back, who knows? I simply love this community beyond belief. Thank you, Cheri for bringing it up. It was surprise and it gave me an opportunity to tell my side before they get the wrong message. I just would like to have everything to simmer down. That's my major reason why I 'walk out'.

Lastly, AD is the BESTEST DEAF COMMUNITY ever. Keep it in your mind, people :) DEAF POWER!

Loves,
Magatsu
 
Magatsu;

I do not think it is your fault at all, You see these people in AllDeaf love you if you walking out of here then I am also walking out of here too. Anyone else?
 
Cheri said:
Magatsu;

I do not think it is your fault at all, You see these people in AllDeaf love you if you walking out of here then I am also walking out of here too. Anyone else?
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Come on, I don't think these people would when I do that. Seriously, I really need a break and could you just give me some time to myself... until then, I will come back or something like that. All I need is time to myself and less hang around here. You are very likeable around here :)
 
Cheri,

If someone feel offense by someone's else post then they can file a complain to the mods or Alex, and I'm sure they will take care of it but I don't think they are aware of what is going on....

And the only reason why I think that ignoring someone is a good advice cause once you respond back, you know that person is more likely to respond back by insulting more, and instead of making a war against that person, or having the thread flame up is just to walk away from it and pm a mod about that post...Sometimes they don't see anything wrong with that post but still we need to let it go even if it hurt our feelings....

I DO know it is hard to ignore someone when they keep going on and on, but the only best thing we can do is walk away from it, soon enough that person will be talking to themseleves LOL

I really DO know how you guys feel! :grouphug:
 
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Come on, I don't think these people would when I do that. Seriously, I really need a break and could you just give me some time to myself... until then, I will come back or something like that. All I need is time to myself and less hang around here. You are very likeable around here :)
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*Sigh*....

If you leave then I would too! cause I don't want to see the good ones leaving, and you have made so many good views in here and I had learn so much by you and the others as well....

So think about it for a moment, if you need a few days away that is fine but don't think of leaving here forever cause that would hurt us even more, when we need more people like you here in AD!!!!
 
angel and magastu

I agree with you angel, i think sometimes they get carried off.The best way to deal with this its to know wether you are giong to be insult or not is ignore it, go on to this next one
Magastuu i like your post alot and if you need a break I agree with you.Just make sure that you come back! Ok everyone lets give Magastu a aplaud for his goooodd posts lets give him his break KEWLie :cool:
 
Magatsu,

I hope you come back soon.
 
Magatsu,
As many know, the this has to do with what happened between you and myself. I never wanted you to leave, I never asked you to leave, and I have (and am now) encouraging you to stay. I was very upset with what was said in the private message and I truly feel that it was below the belt (again, those are my personal feelings and not the communities). People here love reading your posts and learning your thoughts and opinions and you have shown that you enjoy it here. So, I encourage you to stay.

In regards to what took place last night, I was very offended and let my emotions get the best of me. As LinuxGold pointed out, when things get like that, its time to move to the next thread and that is what I was referring to at the end of my thread. I have no intentions of leaving AD (unless I'm asked or instructed to do so), and I honestly feel the same about you.

I was looking through past PM's and you and i have had some very friendly discussions that were not politics based.

I do apologize if I was out of line, but I can't explain how offended I was. I also apologize to the other members for creating such a scene.

Magatsu, There is room enough for both of us and I really do hope you will stay.
 
I've merged this thread into "Let Fool Be Fool" thread. Hopefully we will work our problems out pretty soon. I would like to remind you that everyone had their bad day, even me. Sometimes I, as Database Programmer, had bad day and my Manager had me under control at Client Logic when I became overwhelmed. I've learned a thing or two to ignore anybody with bad attitude even when they insult people or something like that and to move on. They often came over to me to apologize, even me to them as well, and to forget about the problem that we had and to move on.
I'll start this way myself, I apologize for locking a thread as soon as it was created, I should've left it open for everyone and fustrated others.

Forgive me? :(

Let us get back together and work as a good community, by forgiving others and to move on.

Magatsu, can you forgive all of us and we'd welcome you back with big arms. :)

Nobody's perfect and everyone have their bad hair day sometime ;)

:grouphug:
 
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Things have a way of working out at the end.
 

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