Massachusetts town weighs nation's 1st tobacco ban

This going to be tough on Mom and Pop stores , I know smoking it bad for your health and so it a lot junk food , I wonder that will be next .
Then no more "baked maple-candied bacon chocolate chip cookies" .
 
Havent they learn lesson from prohibition?

It is NOT a sensible solution!

Want sensible solution? INVEST in education.

The results would be predictible, if kids wants access tobacco products, they are encouraging kids to steal them cuz none nearby, and even worse, they could be gateway to drug problem. Think about it, once one drug taken away, others will become accessible. Why? Simple put when ban is in effect these mischievous kids curiousity will increase significant, kinda of encourage kids to try something to prove they were right (it didnt hurt me attitude, or being tough). Its all mentality, without education at early age, they Will figure out themselves, just like these prohibition.
Plain stupid idea!
 
I disagree. Education doesn't work with young kids who want to be cool. And, the product is made to addict people more so than other products.

I don't think it should be banned, but I also don't think education is a solution.

In the case of addiction, there is no one solution.
 
VacationGuy234 said:
I disagree. Education doesn't work with young kids who want to be cool. And, the product is made to addict people more so than other products.

I don't think it should be banned, but I also don't think education is a solution.

In the case of addiction, there is no one solution.
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i agree, its a tough one, it is more complex that this announcement media suggest, but one hand it is an interesting idea to impact as a 'social experiment' , New Zealand is particularly famous for many examples of these 'firsts', like women voting, ban on nuclear ships to NZ shores, ACC, land settlement, and name few or lots more (i cant remember it is, and not gonna bother google today, i got lots to do today) and so that sociologists, political scientists, marketeers always have their field day in NZ, also the media in NZ, mostly in popular magazines, Womens magazines, TV channels The Listener (which is historically, used to be radio channel magazine), Metro types, "Metro", "North and South" (we have North and South Islands)...these media interaction is a little more fluid and more detailed while there is still strong influential elements of political tactics and ploys used to attempt push ideas....(harder to see in NZs prints, unless you're well trained for it)....

yeah so....
I think its a good idea for a Massachusetts town to consider this, good on them!, it doesn't have to be a teeny weeny small NZ country, but an American town!, results may or may not succeed if not immediately , of course there will be some repercussions, but in my view, well worth it....America Needs this push to experiment for change...
also indeed, education is going to help bit more, as long as it brings in something NEW, like international studies of smoking , not America, and ideas of how changes are made, like as aforementioned I said, New Zealand's political history can give a good sense of encouragement and cerebral sense of the matter largely to combat insulting America's television and print medias which popularize, perpetuates smoking habits....

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Grummer said:
i agree, its a tough one, it is more complex that this announcement media suggest, but one hand it is an interesting idea to impact as a 'social experiment' , New Zealand is particularly famous for many examples of these 'firsts', like women voting, ban on nuclear ships to NZ shores, ACC, land settlement, and name few or lots more (i cant remember it is, and not gonna bother google today, i got lots to do today) and so that sociologists, political scientists, marketeers always have their field day in NZ, also the media in NZ, mostly in popular magazines, Womens magazines, TV channels The Listener (which is historically, used to be radio channel magazine), Metro types, "Metro", "North and South" (we have North and South Islands)...these media interaction is a little more fluid and more detailed while there is still strong influential elements of political tactics and ploys used to attempt push ideas....(harder to see in NZs prints, unless you're well trained for it)....

yeah so....
I think its a good idea for a Massachusetts town to consider this, good on them!, it doesn't have to be a teeny weeny small NZ country, but an American town!, results may or may not succeed if not immediately , of course there will be some repercussions, but in my view, well worth it....America Needs this push to experiment for change...
also indeed, education is going to help bit more, as long as it brings in something NEW, like international studies of smoking , not America, and ideas of how changes are made, like as aforementioned I said, New Zealand's political history can give a good sense of encouragement and cerebral sense of the matter largely to combat insulting America's television and print medias which popularize, perpetuates smoking habits....

G
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This kind of stuff mostly happen in California first , it would not work in my city b/c people would just drive to New Hampshire which is about a 20 minutes drive away. One person said she wiling to drive 25 miles to NH and I bet she will get other people to help with cost of gas and have her pick up some smoke for them too. I can't see this stopping people from smoking .
I guess the antismoking ads on TV are not working for a city to go and put a ban on tobacco .
 
whatdidyousay! said:
This kind of stuff mostly happen in California first , it would not work in my city b/c people would just drive to New Hampshire which is about a 20 minutes drive away. One person said she wiling to drive 25 miles to NH and I bet she will get other people to help with cost of gas and have her pick up some smoke for them too. I can't see this stopping people from smoking .
I guess the antismoking ads on TV are not working for a city to go and put a ban on tobacco .
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ok feel free to disagree, but when the LAW is factored, social impact is on another level, it WILL change how people THINK of the legitimacy of smokes itself, well it wont happen over night of course....
just think, its not ONE person or one group or one way of thinking as you have displayed or one possibility of how others would try counter it....people's opinions varies, their level of acceptance or stubbornness are going to be entirely different to what YOU may conceive of. Seriously law changes do really can alter the world. Think about IF Plastic is made illegal world wide, big impact ? YOU BET !!!
 
Grummer said:
ok feel free to disagree, but when the LAW is factored, social impact is on another level, it WILL change how people THINK of the legitimacy of smokes itself, well it wont happen over night of course....
just think, its not ONE person or one group or one way of thinking as you have displayed or one possibility of how others would try counter it....people's opinions varies, their level of acceptance or stubbornness are going to be entirely different to what YOU may conceive of. Seriously law changes do really can alter the world. Think about IF Plastic is made illegal world wide, big impact ? YOU BET !!!
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If Plastic is banned world wide we would not be able to buy computers and cell phones anymore. I disagree , you can't force people to stop smoking by banning it. It does not work with pot so it won't work with tobacco.
 
VacationGuy234 said:
I disagree. Education doesn't work with young kids who want to be cool. And, the product is made to addict people more so than other products.

I don't think it should be banned, but I also don't think education is a solution.

In the case of addiction, there is no one solution.
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Sometime when something is banned it made some kids want to try it , they want to know what the big fuss is all about.
 
whatdidyousay! said:
Sometime when something is banned it made some kids want to try it , they want to know what the big fuss is all about.
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yes, that's half the reason why cannabis is going to be legalised in many places....and other half is, that is not like alcohol......then its debatable because many people will raise that impairments DO occur in event of operating a motor vehicle....so it will be a bit tricky BUT again, prescriptions meds can and does do worse.....
 
Exactly, and since some members think education isnt going to work, its not the point, the point is the best solution is education EVEN though it does not work at 100% but it does help making kids think whether legal contrabands worth taking, banning them kills the value of education because it only make kids more curious.
If u think education isnt going work, what else is going to work? Honestly, I dont think other solution is going to work.
I even noticed that my kids are taking serious about eating health food. I asked where they learn from? They said school, I realized they were right, school now educates kids eat better. My kids are eating better than when I was kid.

whatdidyousay! said:
Sometime when something is banned it made some kids want to try it , they want to know what the big fuss is all about.
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