Like speechreading? How well do you really use visual cues?

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Welcome to Sense Synergy | Sense Synergy | : Can't vouch for it, but came across mention of this program -- readmyquips -- on sarasera.com, and she often unearths some pretty cool information.
 
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Over here (Aus) most deaf centres run lipreading courses. Is it not the same in the US?
 
SpeechReading courses are taught here in Toronto and various locations around the Province by the Canadian Hearing Society.
That is where I took all courses-some time ago.

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SimonJ said:
Over here (Aus) most deaf centres run lipreading courses. Is it not the same in the US?
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Usually included in speech therapy and the like.

Generally, a deaf child will be speech reading phrases before they are even diagnosed. It really is not so much a learned skill, as a natural adaptation.
 
jillio said:
Usually included in speech therapy and the like.

Generally, a deaf child will be speech reading phrases before they are even diagnosed. It really is not so much a learned skill, as a natural adaptation.
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Exactly. I do it without even thinking about it, and I never received any training, but it is still exhausting.
 
TheWriteAlex said:
Exactly. I do it without even thinking about it, and I never received any training, but it is still exhausting.
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Agreed. It is exhausting, and not the best way to compensate. But I do think it is amazing that even a very young child will naturally use their visual sense to figure out the world around them in this way. Adaptation is amazing.

ASL is also a natural adaptation. Exactly why it fits the needs of the deaf better than anything anyone else has ever been able to come up with. The brain knows what it needs, and it will find a way to fulfill those needs.
 
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First - Couldnt install that on a Linux system.

Second - A lot of it relies on many other factors - what is the setting, what is the conversation about, who you're talking to, and visual cues.

Build that together and you get a sense of what other person is talking about.
 
I use to read people lips when I was in the car. I would tell my dad " that driver called you a bad word daddy!" My dad would LOL!!
 
TheWriteAlex said:
Exactly. I do it without even thinking about it, and I never received any training, but it is still exhausting.
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I will only read lips if I think a peson it saying worth while! I found it to be exhausting to, and I find some people are not easy to read their lips.
 
jillio said:
Usually included in speech therapy and the like.

Generally, a deaf child will be speech reading phrases before they are even diagnosed. It really is not so much a learned skill, as a natural adaptation.
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Yes, That's how it was for me.

TheWriteAlex said:
Exactly. I do it without even thinking about it, and I never received any training, but it is still exhausting.
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That is so true! A hearing person just needs to try and lipread a whole movie with no sound and they will get some idea if they can also imagine doing that day in and day out, everyday with everything.

jillio said:
Agreed. It is exhausting, and not the best way to compensate. But I do think it is amazing that even a very young child will naturally use their visual sense to figure out the world around them in this way. Adaptation is amazing.

ASL is also a natural adaptation. Exactly why it fits the needs of the deaf better than anything anyone else has ever been able to come up with. The brain knows what it needs, and it will find a way to fulfill those needs.
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+1 Well said Jillio.

May I also add in answer to Grendel's OP, visual cues are used all the time in conjunction with lip/speech-reading. Written word, facial expressions, body language, surrounding environment, people present, activities. The deaf person has to be take in all of these to speechread well. It helps if you know the person well and what vocabulary they use. If you don't know it is harder to discipher on speech-reading alone.

That is the main reason why I do not like sudden surprises. It takes me a lot longer to process what is happening and what is being said. I have been wrongly mistaken as being 'slow' because of this.
 
posts from hell said:
First - Couldnt install that on a Linux system.

Second - A lot of it relies on many other factors - what is the setting, what is the conversation about, who you're talking to, and visual cues.

Build that together and you get a sense of what other person is talking about.
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In social setting, it is probably not too difficult but in the educational setting where new concepts are constantly being discussed, it is very very easy to get lost. At least that was what happened to me.
 
I adapted by learning to read people's faces. I'm actually looking at the speaker's whole face, including the mouth. Not only is it exhausting, it's not very practical because people turn their heads, have accents, have mustaches, talk into bags, etc. It's like the difference between a hearing test in a sound proof booth versus hearing in the real world.
 
When I was younger (10 or so) I was told that I would eventually lose all of my hearing. From that point on, I worked on reading lips. No lessons, just being ever vigilant. It is exhausting and not very reliable for me. I find that these many years later, it is harder and harder. I am losing so much on daily conversations at home that I generally stay online or read books. Out in public, I try to write notes, but most people are not receptive to that. I have taken my netbook with me to use Word or Notepad, but still, they are not receptive.

When having to read lips for various nationalities it gets harder as well as the various dialects for regional differences.
 
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