Life....with no Parole

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A measure that would allow prosecutors to seek life without parole sentences in non-death penalty murder cases awaits Gov. Sonny Perdue's signature after the measure passed unanimously in the Georgia House and Senate.

Purdue hasn't commented publicly about the measure that passed last week, but lawyers on both side of murder cases have.

Georgia's district attorneys support the bill, but many defense lawyers oppose it.

"We backed the life without parole bill because some murderers never deserve to see the light of day ... This legislation gives us a way to see that a person never gets out of prison to kill someone else," said Rick Currie, district attorney of the Waycross Judicial Circuit and president of the District Attorney's Association of Georgia.

In Georgia, life without parole is now a sentencing option only in death penalty cases. Regardless of the evidence or wishes of the victim's family, prosecutors first have to seek the death penalty - a lengthy and expensive process - in order to get a sentence of life without parole.

The association asserts the change will allow prosecutors to put more killers in prison and keep them there. It also will save taxpayers' money because prosecutors no longer will have to mount a lengthy and expensive death penalty prosecution when life without parole is the sentence they want.

"District attorneys can't seek the death penalty in every case. It may be because of not enough evidence to prove the [legally mandated] aggravating circumstance or because of the input of the victim's family. Or it may be because some counties simply can't afford a death penalty trial," Currie said.

The measure is unconstitutional and will only create more problems than it purports to solve, said John Thigpen, a veteran Southeast Georgia criminal defense attorney.

"I'm absolutely opposed to it because it's cruel and unusual punishment to lock someone up for life with no hope," Thigpen said.

He said prosecutors will seek life without parole too often.

"It's going to lead to extreme overcrowding in our prisons," Thigpen said.

If Perdue signs the legislation on life without parole, it won't be until the legislative session is over, his spokesman Bert Brantley said.

And as the session is just days from its close, other death penalty legislation remains in limbo.

A proposal that would allow a jury to impose the death sentence by a non-unanimous verdict has hit a legislative brick wall. The bill would allow a judge to impose the death sentence if at least 10 of 12 jurors support it.

Georgia law states only a jury can impose the death penalty, and its verdict must be unanimous.

Prosecutors statewide have mixed opinions about the measure. Because of the diversity of opinions among its members, the association didn't take a position on the measure, Currie said.

District Attorney Stephen Kelley of the five-county Brunswick Judicial Circuit supports the non-unanimous verdict proposal.
 
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"I'm absolutely opposed to it because it's cruel and unusual punishment to lock someone up for life with no hope," Thigpen said.

I support the life without parole sentences. Thigpen has such nerve to say that it's cruel...hello...the person killed somebody...why should she or he see the outside world ever again? Dead people do not rise from the dead...so why should murderers be allowed out of prison? Murderers do not deserve any hope at all. All they deserve is a bare room 5x5 room with bars. Nowadays "life sentences" are about 40 years (I read this in another thread) and I think that is not good enough...if you are going to call it a life sentence, make it the entire person's LIFE! Til the day the murderer dies! We do not want murderers out in society, they are dangerous, and must be put away til the day they die, for our safety. One murder can make a LOT of innocent people suffer...the person who was killed, and that person's family AND friends...they all suffer the loss. That's huge. Put the murderer away for LIFE, not just 40 years! How can anyone support a murderer? I cannot imagine that. I have contempt for the lawyers who defend the murderers and the rapists, how can they do that, don't they have a conscience? Or is it just the money they want? If it's only the money they want, then they do not have a conscience at all, and just are greedy, and that is sad. I would never want to be a lawyer for murderers and for the rapists....no way. I would much rather be paid less to defend the victims than to be paid a lot to defend the murderers and the rapists. I grew up in Milwaukee, and you all know that Milwaukee is where Jeffrey Dahmer grew up in and did most of his killings, and I lived no more than half an hour away from where he lived for 17 years (I lived all over the city), and I grew up hearing about him ALL THE TIME on the news, and was ALWAYS frightened at night, had nightmares, and could not sleep. The day he was killed in prison in Portage, was the day I was able to sleep at night. I said, "thank goodness" when I heard that he was dead. I was always scared that he would come after us and kill me and my family. There was one dream in particular that I had, that completely freaked my mom out, so I believe our family might have had a run-in with him at one time, cause my mom was crying and said "how did Lucia remember that, how did she dream all that?!" when I told her about the dream. She was bawling to all our relatives. She was VERY upset. I don't really know anything about it, but I do remember the dream. I had that dream when I was about 8 years old. A few years ago, there was a movie made about him, and I could not watch it, it was horrific. It was a very sick movie. Too many familiar scenes in the movie just because I grew up in the city, and so I recognized so many things in the movie. People who rape and kill people are the sickest people on Earth, and I ain't talking mental illnesses...I'm talking about a very SICK AND SADISTIC HEART AND SOUL...I would feel much better if the federal laws are made so that no person who has killed somebody (not out of self-defense - I can understand self-defense) are put away and never allowed to see the light of day ever again. The less killers and rapists on the steets, the better. I would say that the overcrowding in prisons and jails are not due to too many murderers and rapists, but because there are too many drug addicts and mentally ill people and people with "minor crimes" such as stealing a car or something like that where no human life has been taken (unless a human life has been threatened or taken) who really should be in drug treatment and drug rehab centers, and in mental hospitals. My heart goes out to all the poor innocent victims of the murderers and the rapists.
 
Thats pretty effin' stupid if you ask me. If you lock someone up without parole then they have no need to care anymore. They can shank 100 inmates and the sentence is the same. At least with the option of knowing theres always a chance of "getting out", then theres that chance they can try to turn their lives around and learn from their mistakes.
 
Im sorry, I gotta to agree with lucia,

I do support this over death penalty.

It is NOT really 100% without hope.

Reason I support Life without Parole over Death penalty is that because not all justice is accurate. In the event where there is evidence that came in light proving this person innocent, we have chance to give this person another chance, rather than execute them and oops can't get this innocent person back life.
 
Thats pretty effin' stupid if you ask me. If you lock someone up without parole then they have no need to care anymore. They can shank 100 inmates and the sentence is the same. At least with the option of knowing theres always a chance of "getting out", then theres that chance they can try to turn their lives around and learn from their mistakes.

Let the inmates who are murderers and rapists shank each other...it would definitely take care of the overcrowding in prisons.
 
Exactly!

However for seriously violent ones I would rather 100% solitary confidement with minimal administrative. This will twist the convicts mind! No one likes to be 100% lonely.

Example? ADMAX, the Alcatraz on the rockies

Let the inmates who are murderers and rapists shank each other...it would definitely take care of the overcrowding in prisons.
 
Not everyone who commit murder are send to ADMAX due their capacity is nearly 500 and they have go to other max security prisons, otherwise ADMAX is usually for people who commit to be terrorist and attack our country, especially some Al Qaeda members are sent to ADMAX after found guilty and other serious crime, such as betray on government.

I support death penalty for citizens, non-terrorist but not always applies to anyone who commit to kill one adult person, they are usually sentence to life in prison with no parole at most cases.
 
Let the inmates who are murderers and rapists shank each other...it would definitely take care of the overcrowding in prisons.

While I agree with you on that....the harsh reality is that 70% of prison populations, people are incarcinated on crimes not having to do with murder and rape. I do believe in 2nd chances..... for some people obviously.
 
I DO support the death penalty btw. Unfortunatly the process is way too weak and way too slow processing-wise to my satisfaction. Some states have inmates sentenced to death and just end up serving a life sentence anyway. Pretty retarded if you ask me.
 
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