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Jesus loves you and he died for our sins and he rose from dead ! Thank The amighty heavenly father for Jesus christ! praise God!

Jesus Christ is only way to go to heaven! you CAN accept Jesus Christ as your personal savior by saying a prayer!

Let me pray for you frist
Dear heavenly father,
Lord, i ask you in name of Jesus Christ to touch your children 's heart. i ask you to show them your way and please bless them. thank you! in name of Jesus christ i pray. AMEN!

IF YOU WANT TO ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR PERSONAL SAVIOR YOU CAN SAY THIS PRAYER:

DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, I CONFESS THAT I AM A SINNER AND PLEASE FORIVE ME AND WASH ALL MY SINS AWAY AND I INVITE YOUR ONLY SON JESUS CHRIST TO COME IN MY HEART NOW. IN NAME OF JESUS CHRIST I PRAY. AMEN!
 
Hello,


Welcome to Alldeaf and enjoy your stay here ;)
 
:welcome: I noted you're brand new, so welcome aboard!

You will find out there are many Christians here, so knock off the witnessing, alright?

Along those same lines, no one cares how much you know or care unless you SHOW them how much you care.
 
pek1 said:
:welcome: I noted you're brand new, so welcome aboard!

You will find out there are many Christians here, so knock off the witnessing, alright?

Along those same lines, no one cares how much you know or care unless you SHOW them how much you care.

Way to go, Pek! Your'e a champ welcoming someone new like ya did. I guess it would be presumptuous of me to ask ya not to sugar-coat it wouldn't it?
:D
 
But I don't want to pray to Bill Frist. He scares me. :(
 
pek1 said:
:welcome: I noted you're brand new, so welcome aboard!

You will find out there are many Christians here, so knock off the witnessing, alright?

Along those same lines, no one cares how much you know or care unless you SHOW them how much you care.

What a way to welcome somebody especially when you are a ex-preacher yourself.

Now I don't want to get into an agruement about that. It does set a bad example to anothers.

In the future give people a warm welcome. Don't tell them to knock it off.

That is cold, man !!!! You are an ex-preacher. You should know better. Of all people, you know there are souls at stake here for eternity.

If I was a preacher I would not tell people that myself either.

Show respect for another people. Just give them a warm welcome and talk to them.
 
Sigh...... I am a nonbeliever. I am NOT a nonbeliver b/c I have never been exposed to Christian teachings or to the Word. I know of Jesus. I am NOT willingly purposely turning away from being saved, or turning away from the light or what is Right. It is pretty hard to be sheltered away from Christian teachings in our society. I would bet you anything that NO American has NOT heard the gospel. You're not winning souls for Jesus by witnessing.....you're just repeating things people have heard TIME AFTER TIME!
People are not Christians b/c of the rampent hypocracy that abounds in Christianity, people are not christians b/c they see so many inconsistancies in the Bible.
One of the biggest reasons why I am not a christian is simple. If Christianity and getting SAVED by Jesus was THE ANSWER, do you not think that God would have planted the seeds for eirieally simalir creation stories and simlair regligions? Like religions like Shinto, Islam, Buddaism, nature religions, animanism etc would all have stories that were simalir to the Jesus story. Yet Christianity is the ONLY religion that insists that it is the RIGHT one!
 
deafdyke said:
.... I would bet you anything that NO American has NOT heard the gospel. You're not winning souls for Jesus by witnessing.....you're just repeating things people have heard TIME AFTER TIME!
I don't mind hearing the Good News again. :)

I wasn't saved the first time I heard the Gospel. Some of us are hard-headed and/or hard-hearted and it takes more than once to get the message thru. I'm glad that I was given more than one opportunity to hear the Gospel.
 
deafdyke said:
Sigh...... I am a nonbeliever. I am NOT a nonbeliver b/c I have never been exposed to Christian teachings or to the Word. I know of Jesus. I am NOT willingly purposely turning away from being saved, or turning away from the light or what is Right. It is pretty hard to be sheltered away from Christian teachings in our society. I would bet you anything that NO American has NOT heard the gospel. You're not winning souls for Jesus by witnessing.....you're just repeating things people have heard TIME AFTER TIME!
People are not Christians b/c of the rampent hypocracy that abounds in Christianity, people are not christians b/c they see so many inconsistancies in the Bible.
One of the biggest reasons why I am not a christian is simple. If Christianity and getting SAVED by Jesus was THE ANSWER, do you not think that God would have planted the seeds for eirieally simalir creation stories and simlair regligions? Like religions like Shinto, Islam, Buddaism, nature religions, animanism etc would all have stories that were simalir to the Jesus story. Yet Christianity is the ONLY religion that insists that it is the RIGHT one!

I don't believe in silencin' Jesus. GodServant is more than welcome to share Jesus. He is sharin' Love ( Jesus ). :)
 
:wave: GodServant --

Welcome aboard and enjoy postin' with new/old friends here. :)
 
Tousi said:
Way to go, Pek! Your'e a champ welcoming someone new like ya did. I guess it would be presumptuous of me to ask ya not to sugar-coat it wouldn't it?
:D

I will respond to this by responding to Heath. I will go into full detail as to why I did that
 
Heath said:
What a way to welcome somebody especially when you are a ex-preacher yourself.

Now I don't want to get into an agruement about that. It does set a bad example to anothers.

In the future give people a warm welcome. Don't tell them to knock it off.

That is cold, man !!!! You are an ex-preacher. You should know better. Of all people, you know there are souls at stake here for eternity.

If I was a preacher I would not tell people that myself either.

Show respect for another people. Just give them a warm welcome and talk to them.

Heath,

I have seen so much already while being here and other Christians bashing everyone that isn't one. You have gone at it with a few people and seem to be quite persistent in actually forcing others to believe as you (and I) believe. We can't do that, as it's not our job. We can and should tell them of God's love, by all means, but we should never force it upon people (which is what the new thread here is). It is the Holy Spirit's job of convicting of sin, is it not? Since that be the case, we need to act accordingly.

Furthermore, when a newby does it and doesn't start posting in other peoples' threads, others get suspicious, and rightly so. Unfortunately, they do. Being a witness for Christ doesn't mean that we need to keep score and points as to who and how many we have shared the gospel with, as if actually matters. What matters is that we do share, but we do it constructively. Posting first and not getting to know everyone here is not the way to do it...you people know that.

If anyone was offended, I sincerely apologize for it. At the same time, I'd rather have a newby, as would all of you, post in other peoples' threads and get to know all of us (it's called feeling us out), then start posting. I could tell millions of people about God's love and salvation, but if I don't care about them, then what good is the work of telling them? There are billions of hurting people in different sizes and shapes, each is a unique individual with her/his own needs. If we don't care about their needs, then why should they care when we tell them that God loves them, sent His only Begotten Son and the entire story about salvation?

I'd rather have someone show me that they care about me than tell me that God loves me. I have always practiced this approach...it's called "show, then tell."
 
deafdyke said:
Sigh...... I am a nonbeliever. I am NOT a nonbeliver b/c I have never been exposed to Christian teachings or to the Word. I know of Jesus. I am NOT willingly purposely turning away from being saved, or turning away from the light or what is Right. It is pretty hard to be sheltered away from Christian teachings in our society. I would bet you anything that NO American has NOT heard the gospel. You're not winning souls for Jesus by witnessing.....you're just repeating things people have heard TIME AFTER TIME!
People are not Christians b/c of the rampent hypocracy that abounds in Christianity, people are not christians b/c they see so many inconsistancies in the Bible.
One of the biggest reasons why I am not a christian is simple. If Christianity and getting SAVED by Jesus was THE ANSWER, do you not think that God would have planted the seeds for eirieally simalir creation stories and simlair regligions? Like religions like Shinto, Islam, Buddaism, nature religions, animanism etc would all have stories that were simalir to the Jesus story. Yet Christianity is the ONLY religion that insists that it is the RIGHT one!

deafdyke, I'm going to continue on with what I was saying and answer you accordingly.

In the United States, we are truly blessed beyond measure with churches, as almost every town has one within blocks of each other. Therefore, not hearing the gospel, by what you said, according to the Bible and when you as an individual stand before God, each person will be without excuse. Now, I'm not excusing Christians from this, as they should be asking you to attend church with them, as they have their own reasons and they will be held accountable for that, as well.

As for the other religions and why God didn't, well, basically insist on His way...He chose not to for a reason. He didn't want any of us humans to be robots and to think with our own minds. Would you rather have Him stand over you and bonk you on the head when you go 56 miles per hour in a 55 zone? This is a lame argument, but you, I'm sure, get my point.

Now, regarding the hypocrisy, I don't doubt that and I've seen and experienced it. However, pointing back to what the Bible says, "all are without excuse" (Romans 1:20), so the argument of hypocrites is lame. There are hypocrites at the grocery store, too, did you know that? They say they buy a certain brand because they believe it's the best...but, when they tire of it, they buy something else and flip-flop. You are going to see people who are not honest in all walks of life...preachers, too. There are people in your own life, as well as here on alldeaf.com, that do questionable things or say something that doesn't sound "Christian." Just because various ones of us here are Christians doesn't mean we are perfect and we start doing good to others and quit all sinful and bad practices. Far from it, my cyberfriend, far from it. I don't sit around all day singing "Kum By Yah," either...I was being facecious on that last one. ;) But, I think you know what I mean.

deafdyke, I would never, ever try to convince you that Christianity is the truth, as it's not my job to do so. That job belongs to the Holy Spirit of God to meet you right where you're at and take care of that. Since I'm sensing you're asking, I'm going to refer you to your local telephone directory's yellow pages and look under the heading for churches. You will see many of them. I would invite you to call whichever ones you choose to and ask the pastor about salvation. He or she would be delighted to talk with you. If one pastor 't want to, don't waste your time on him/her and call another one. Keep calling and asking questions until you...I said YOU, are satisfied with the understanding of salvation. If you so choose not to, that is your decision and no one will force you to do something you don't want to.

Feel free to pm me if you'd like. :)

By the way, if you can believe it, yes there are people in the United States that have never heard the name of Christ except maybe as a swear word. Preaching at someone and grinding their nose into the ground about their "sin" won't win converts.
 
All of us need to hear the Gospel of Jesus Christ as many as they have receive a message. They choose to accept or reject Jesus Christ as a personal Savior.

Welcome GodServant to the AD. I love to hear a wonderful news about anyone share the Gospel with us. :)
 
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pek,
You miss my point. I know about free will, and the choice about whether to believe or not to believe. My point was that if Jesus WAS the answer, if Christianity was THE ONE TRUE RELIGION, then how come the only religion that has a Savoir story is Christianity? Would not God have seeded the religions of the world with simalir stories of a Savoiur coming to save mankind? Like for example, there are stories about Great Floods (like the one that Noah survived) in many of the literature of the religions of the world. Therefore, there was probaly a Great Flood sometime in the past.
Yet, there's ONLY ONE bit of literature that says that Jesus is God/ the Savoiur for the human race. ONE. That bit of literature has ALSO been heavily edited, and is the result of politicizing/power grab by powerful MEN. I remember reading (can't remember where thou) that back in the old days when Christianity was first getting started, the church fathers had hold of tons and tons of stories and books of what would later become the Bible.......but they only picked a very limited number of books and writings to be included in what would become the Bible. What about those books and writings that WEREN'T included in the Bible?
 
If God is what everyone says He is, then there is no point in saying it in public... cuz he will hear you. NO MATTER WHAT!

Let's look at this phrase... "Praise the Lord Almighty! Jesus Christ is King!"
  • Person #1 writes this down on paper.
  • Person #2 prays this out loud alone in her room.
  • Person #3 yells this in a crowded cafeteria.
  • Person #4 says this to her class during her presentation.
  • Person #5 thinks this in her head.
Now, which one was the "loudest"? NONE! They are all exactly the same. God will still hear all of them, no matter what.
 
deafdyke said:
pek,
You miss my point. I know about free will, and the choice about whether to believe or not to believe. OKAY, CHECK...THIS IS ASIDE.

My point was that if Jesus WAS the answer, if Christianity was THE ONE TRUE RELIGION, then how come the only religion that has a Savoir story is Christianity? THE OTHERS DO, TOO, BUT THE DIFFERENCE WITH CHRISTIANITY IS THAT OUR SAVIOR, JESUS CHRIST, ROSE FROM THE DEAD AND IS NO LONGER IN A GRAVE. HE WAS ALSO BORN OF A WOMAN WHO WAS A VIRGIN WHILE SHE WAS PREGNANT IN ADDITION TO AFTER JESUS WAS BORN. IN OTHER WORDS, JOSEPH, WHO WAS ENGAGED TO MARY, AFTER JESUS WAS BORN, MARRIED MARY AND SHE WAS STILL A VIRGIN.

Would not God have seeded the religions of the world with simalir stories of a Savoiur coming to save mankind? NO. THAT'S LIKE SAYING THAT SINCE FORD THINKS THEY HAVE THE BEST AND SAFEST CARS AND TRUCKS, WHY NOT MAKE ALL VEHICLES THAT TRAVEL THE ROADWAYS IN THE WORLD FORDS. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IN OTHER WORDS, FORD IS ONLY INTERESTED IN FORD, NOT IN GM OR TOYOTA, ONLY FORD.

Like for example, there are stories about Great Floods (like the one that Noah survived) in many of the literature of the religions of the world. Therefore, there was probaly a Great Flood sometime in the past. MOUNT ARARAT, IN TURKEY, HOLDS THE ARK WHICH IS BURIED IN ICE. EXPLORERS HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO GET TO THE AREA DUE TO POLITICAL UNREST (MUSLIMS WON'T ALLOW IT).

Yet, there's ONLY ONE bit of literature that says that Jesus is God/ the Savoiur for the human race. ONE. That bit of literature has ALSO been heavily edited, and is the result of politicizing/power grab by powerful MEN. I remember reading (can't remember where thou) that back in the old days when Christianity was first getting started, the church fathers had hold of tons and tons of stories and books of what would later become the Bible
I DON'T RECALL EXACTLY WHAT ALL THE WRITINGS ARE CALLED, BUT AM AWARE OF THEM. GOD, IN HIS INFINITE WISDOM, IS ABLE TO SAVE HIS WORD NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES IT'S EDITED.

.......but they only picked a very limited number of books and writings to be included in what would become the Bible. What about those books and writings that WEREN'T included in the Bible? THOSE BOOKS ARE NOT RECOGNIZED AS BEING DIVINELY INSPIRED. SOMETIMES, DEAFDYKE, WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE THAT GOD HAS ALL THE ANSWERS, AS HE ALONE IS OMNIPOTENT AND HUMANS DON'T KNOW SQUAT ABOUT ANYTHING. THIS IS CALLED "FAITH."

deafdyke,

Through your quotes I will answer. My answers will be in caps and does not signify that I am yelling.
 
deafdyke said:
You're not winning souls for Jesus by witnessing.....you're just repeating things people have heard TIME AFTER TIME!

Jesus command us this:

The Great Commission
16Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. 17When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted. 18Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."

Yea it may have been something that's been heard time after time. . It still is sweet to repeat that the Wonder of all wonders that thrills our souls is the Wonder that God loves us and wants to save us. .

Better than going to the "BBQ party" where you're what they're cooking forever without ceasing instead of waiting to be fed with food for the stomach. .
 
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