IRS scam costing victims $15 million

Reba said:
Time for Fair Tax. :)
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How does relevant to this thread?

This thread is about IRS scam that where person who are impersonating to be IRS agent and threaten anyone with jail time, getting sued or seizing the assets. That's not same as real agents that works at IRS.

Due to nature of gridlocked congress, Fair Tax will never going pass, even in decades or centuries.
 
Its harder to perform scams when the tax system would be very simple and fair. But because our tax codes are so complicated, very easy to get ones confuse, perfect opportunity for con artist pretending they are IRS agent.

Foxrac said:
How does relevant to this thread?

This thread is about IRS scam that where person who are impersonating to be IRS agent and threaten anyone with jail time, getting sued or seizing the assets. That's not same as real agents that works at IRS.

Due to nature of gridlocked congress, Fair Tax will never going pass, even in decades or centuries.
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diehardbiker said:
Its harder to perform scams when the tax system would be very simple and fair. But because our tax codes are so complicated, very easy to get ones confuse, perfect opportunity for con artist pretending they are IRS agent.
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Without IRS, scams will go after state income tax so it doesn't make much difference.
 
Foxrac said:
Without IRS, scams will go after state income tax so it doesn't make much difference.
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Google up and find out how many regular sheet of papers outlines us tax codes, be prepare drop your jaw when u discover the answer.
 
diehardbiker said:
Google up and find out how many regular sheet of papers outlines us tax codes, be prepare drop your jaw when u discover the answer.
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Again, there is no difference between federal income tax and state income tax.

There are plenty of ways to scam and impersonation without involved with tax purpose.

If you talk so you should bring up instead of tell me to looking, also I'm not wasting my time to looking about what you ask, so you should bring up.
 
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Better add "Calling list" too ;)
 
Progressive tax (income tax) is one of most fairest system if it is properly written that where you earn more, you pay more tax, so it means poor people should pay less tax and rich people should pay more tax. "Fair" Tax is national sale tax that where poor people have to pay more but they are facing more economic hardship, even hunger issues that where low income and middle income families usually buy similar food products, however, low income families may fell with junk food that cost cheaper.

The prebate that offered under "Fair" Tax isn't matter and it is just extra government bureaucracy as existing federal tax system, also it is probably once a year and all income get same amount of prebate so it isn't fair because poor people need larger amount of prebate and rich people need smaller amount of prebate or none at all.

There is no perfect tax system that end the government bureaucracy, unless they are abolishing all taxes together, also they won't unable to cover on government spending or pay interest rate. I don't believe that national sale tax solely will cover government spending, even more worse if customers are stopping spend or find way to avoid the taxes.

I'm favoring to reform the income tax to make more true progressive but nobody want to fix those system, so existing federal income tax is extremely complicated and unfair (not true progressive). There is simplified, true progressive income tax exists but there will no deduction, break, credit, even no annual filing and other additional to make more complicated.

I'm speaking out to opposing to national sale tax.

This thread is about people who are impersonating to be IRS agent so that's not cool to be impersonating that you are FBI agent, IRS agent, police officer, military, official government position. If we don't have tax filing system so IRS scam won't exists.
 
Wow! They are dumb enough to believe that IRS calls them to pay. I won't pay until I talk with IRS after I get an official letter from IRS. That's how it works.
 
Unless you have pending business to attend to, at least confirm some relevant info and nature of the call.
 
You misunderstand the whole point, here is the answer for you... ready...

How Many Pages Long Is the U.S. Income Tax Code in 2013? According to the CCH Standard Federal Tax Reporter, as of 2013, it now takes 73,954 regular 8-1/2" x 11" sheets of paper to explain the complexity of the U.S. federal tax code!Feb 13, 2013

Yes, you read it right, 73,954 pages of pages on tax books!!! With 74K pages, nobody is going to read it though, perfect opportunity for scammers because they KNOW nobody is going to look up though whopping 73,954 pages to verify whether the scammer is legit or not. Supposed book of tax code only 15 pages, then it is harder for scammer to fool anyone. It does not matter federal or state, what matter is how complicate the tax code is, not everybody is smart enough to do research, that is where the problem is. Why do we need whopping 74K pages of tax book?

Foxrac said:
Again, there is no difference between federal income tax and state income tax.

There are plenty of ways to scam and impersonation without involved with tax purpose.

If you talk so you should bring up instead of tell me to looking, also I'm not wasting my time to looking about what you ask, so you should bring up.
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With today's technology availability, it is easy and cheap to make fake official IRS letter.

CrazyPaul said:
Wow! They are dumb enough to believe that IRS calls them to pay. I won't pay until I talk with IRS after I get an official letter from IRS. That's how it works.
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diehardbiker said:
You misunderstand the whole point, here is the answer for you... ready...

How Many Pages Long Is the U.S. Income Tax Code in 2013? According to the CCH Standard Federal Tax Reporter, as of 2013, it now takes 73,954 regular 8-1/2" x 11" sheets of paper to explain the complexity of the U.S. federal tax code!Feb 13, 2013

Yes, you read it right, 73,954 pages of pages on tax books!!! With 74K pages, nobody is going to read it though, perfect opportunity for scammers because they KNOW nobody is going to look up though whopping 73,954 pages to verify whether the scammer is legit or not. Supposed book of tax code only 15 pages, then it is harder for scammer to fool anyone. It does not matter federal or state, what matter is how complicate the tax code is, not everybody is smart enough to do research, that is where the problem is. Why do we need whopping 74K pages of tax book?
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Misunderstood? not really, you miscommunicated about what is my point. :ugh:
 
diehardbiker said:
With today's technology availability, it is easy and cheap to make fake official IRS letter.
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That's why I said that after I get a letter, I make a call to IRS to see what's up with the letter. If IRS says "No, we didn't send you a letter.", then I send a copy of the fake letter to FBI or throw the letter away. If IRS said "Yes, we sent you a letter because blah, blah, blah.", then I pay what I owe or dispute it. Always get the ph # (TTY #) through IRS official website since the # provided in the letter may be different (possibly not an official IRS #).
 
Not everyone has the brain to do what your suggested.

CrazyPaul said:
That's why I said that after I get a letter, I make a call to IRS to see what's up with the letter. If IRS says "No, we didn't send you a letter.", then I send a copy of the fake letter to FBI or throw the letter away. If IRS said "Yes, we sent you a letter because blah, blah, blah.", then I pay what I owe or dispute it. Always get the ph # (TTY #) through IRS official website since the # provided in the letter may be different (possibly not an official IRS #).
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diehardbiker said:
73,984 pages? Nah, I am too lazy reading it.
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Everybody doesn't read it that long because it's so full of sh*t. Unfortunately, a lot of people have no common sense.

If someone IDing him/herself as an IRS agent tells you that you owe IRS, contact IRS. We don't have to read 73,984 pages. Nobody except lawyers does.
 
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