"Had" and "Have" Sign

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I am familiar with "have", "has" and "had" signs. I don't sign V, S, and D letters unless they ask me to sign them. My preference is I usually place the fingertips of both bent hands on the chest.

Anyway, I met a few Deaf friends who are much older than me who sign "had" or "have" in a different way. The sign is similar to "already".

Where did that sign come from? SEE 2 or ASL?

Thanks.
 
Barbaro said:
I am familiar with "have", "has" and "had" signs. I don't sign V, S, and D letters unless they ask me to sign them. My preference is I usually place the fingertips of both bent hands on the chest.

Anyway, I met a few Deaf friends who are much older than me who sign "had" or "have" in a different way. The sign is similar to "already".

Where did that sign come from? SEE 2 or ASL?

Thanks.
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Two different concepts, two different signs, one English word--that's the confusion.

The English word "have" can mean either possession or it can be used as the helper/auxiliary verb showing a continuous completed act of another verb. Examples:

1. I have a Jeep. (possession)

2. I have paid my rent on time every month. (the completed action--paid)

In the first case, that would be the HAVE sign.

In the second case, that would be the FINISH sign.
 
Mrs Bucket said:
"Had"

ASL GLOSS

#HAD - ALREADY

"Have"

ASL GLOSS

HAVE
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Reba said:
Two different concepts, two different signs, one English word--that's the confusion.

The English word "have" can mean either possession or it can be used as the helper verb showing a continuous completed act of another verb. Examples:

1. I have a Jeep. (possession)

2. I have paid my rent on time every month. (the completed action--paid)

In the first case, that would be the HAVE sign.

In the second case, that would be the FINISH sign.
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That makes sense. I am not fluent in ASL. I was confused by my Deaf friends' ASL, because when they read sentences from the book. For example," I have a dog." But they did sign the FINISH sign. I was very confused by that. It's been a while since I took ASL lessons. That's why I asked for clarification.
 
As for "have been", Would that be the FINISH sign, right?
 
Oh, disregard my last question. Reba, I did not see your last post.
 
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