Following "fast" manual alphabet

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I notice early in my training that my instructor is quite rapid in the manual alphabet - sometime so much so that I have difficulty following him. Are there any tips or tricks useful in helping me grasp his fingerspelling more quickly?
 
Great for you I see good for you pretty learn it. what kind of "fast"? tell me thank
 
I notice early in my training that my instructor is quite rapid in the manual alphabet - sometime so much so that I have difficulty following him. Are there any tips or tricks useful in helping me grasp his fingerspelling more quickly?

yes, if you taken lessons, your ASL teachers should be able tell you some rules and tips about fingerspelling. Like the rules of double letters such as b-a-LL
 
Hard to quantify - his speed is pretty rapid, sometimes. I think it just may be that I've only had *one* lesson thus far, and my eye is being challenged to follow his fingers. I'll let you know how I adjust. Thanks for your help!
 
Hard to quantify - his speed is pretty rapid, sometimes. I think it just may be that I've only had *one* lesson thus far, and my eye is being challenged to follow his fingers. I'll let you know how I adjust. Thanks for your help!

Here's a video (selected because I had it bookmarked from another alldeaf thread it was in)...
The rate of the fingerspelling in the video is what most people would consider "average" (but not "fast") fingerspelling speed for those who are reasonably fluent in ASL.

how does his fingerspelling speed compare to the woman in this video??

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The idea behind reading fingerspelling is to read the "word" not the individual letters. It takes a little effort not to look for individual letters. Think of reading a book. You eye/ mind can adjust to be able to read fingerspelling the same way
 
Here's a video (selected because I had it bookmarked from another alldeaf thread it was in)...
The rate of the fingerspelling in the video is what most people would consider "average" (but not "fast") fingerspelling speed for those who are reasonably fluent in ASL.

how does his fingerspelling speed compare to the woman in this video??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q32f0Bk0VLw

oh how hearty... "blew that poor soul to heaven"... Not a Texan. I wonder where she's from? Vermont?
 
I was taught that when watching someone fingerspell you should not try to say the letters in your mind but sound them out. in other words for someone fingerspelling the word "FAST" you should sound the letters out in your head fff aaa ssss ttt instead of F....A....S....T. That way if you miss a letter you could still possibly pick up the word. Anyone please correct me if I am wrong.
 
I was taught that when watching someone fingerspell you should not try to say the letters in your mind but sound them out. in other words for someone fingerspelling the word "FAST" you should sound the letters out in your head fff aaa ssss ttt instead of F....A....S....T. That way if you miss a letter you could still possibly pick up the word. Anyone please correct me if I am wrong.

Yup - that's the way that it's typically taught here too - provided the student is hearing of Hoh of course.

Another way that is often very helpful is to watch for and recognize patterns (basically the shape of the word, or part of the word).
For "patterns" you practice seeing common letter combinations as "a unit" regardless of where they are found in a word (beginning, middle, end) for example:
TH , THE, GTH, ING, ED, ORE, EIGHT, STR, ONG, LY etc.

Just like young children are taught "memory words" or "sight words" - practice learning to see small common fingerspelled words as "sight words" as well - loan signs/ lexicalized fingerspelling (BANK, BACK, OWN, WHAT,JOB, DO, VEG, SO, IF, OR,) are good "ASL equivalent" examples of English "sight words".

Also, look for the "shape changes" in fingerspelled words, just like you would in written English. Some words have a lot of shape change (APPLE, FARM, BACK, BANK) others have very little shape change (TOAST, SEE, ME,).


Basically when trying to "get" fingerspelling:

1) sounding the words out as they are being spelled (provided you have in internal aural memory, I'd can sound things out in your head)

2) learning and recognizing frequently used letter combinations (and seeing them as a "unit")

3) noticing and taking advantage of the shape changes in how letters are formed

Then it's just a matter of Practice, Practice, Practice, Practice.
 
I betcha that PFH can spell much faster than she. Just a guess ya know..
 
Here's a video (selected because I had it bookmarked from another alldeaf thread it was in)...
The rate of the fingerspelling in the video is what most people would consider "average" (but not "fast") fingerspelling speed for those who are reasonably fluent in ASL.

how does his fingerspelling speed compare to the woman in this video??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q32f0Bk0VLw

wish I can fingerspell smoothly (don't care about speed) but I can't for now. my hands hurt like hell when fingerspelling certain thing.
 
Fingerspelling articulation is not a problem for me. It's the receptive part that is. I still have a hard time with that "look for the whole word" thing. Maybe it has something to do with my background in English that forces me to look for individual phonemes instead of morphemes. I dunno. :dunno:
 
Fingerspelling articulation is not a problem for me. It's the receptive part that is. I still have a hard time with that "look for the whole word" thing. Maybe it has something to do with my background in English that forces me to look for individual phonemes instead of morphemes. I dunno. :dunno:

same.
 
I finally figured out that I need to focus on syllables for finger spelling. Took me a while to figure that out. lol
 
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