Experts Debate Medicating Kids

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Increase In Behavior Drugs Sparks Major Debate


(CNN) -- Gavin Gorski, 11, opens his hands as his father dispenses the pills.

An orange tablet, a green pill, white oval shapes and oblong ones -- nine drugs total -- fall into his palm. The fifth-grader scoops them into his mouth. Later in the day, he takes eight more pills.

Gavin takes 119 pills every week.

The clozapine helps him with the hallucinations and voices he hears. The lithium stabilizes Gavin's mood. Without them, he stays up for nights and has no impulse control.

"We couldn't exist without him being medicated," said Rob Gorski, Gavin's father. "We struggled with it at first. Nobody wants to medicate their kids, but it comes to a quality of life issue. When he is un-medicated, his quality of life is really low."

Gavin started taking several drugs at age 5.

Increasingly more U.S. kids are taking behavioral drugs, according to several studies.

The majority of cases are not as severe as Gavin's. The most common reasons for use of antipsychotics by children are intellectual disability, attention deficit/hyperactivity disorder and disruptive behavior disorder.

But children's conditions could be misdiagnosed and drugs prescribed for minor symptoms, experts say. Putting kids on multiple drugs could put them at risk for drug interactions and side effects, they say.

There also is potential for abuse, with parents intentionally medicating their children to make their behavior more manageable.

"If the child is horrendously disruptive -- self-injury and hurting themselves -- yes, use medication in young children," said Dr. Mani Pavuluri, director of the Pediatric Brain Research and Intervention Center at the University of Illinois at Chicago. "But it's always cautious to wait until they're a bit older than 5."

Pharmaceuticals should be the last resort after therapies and behavioral interventions, Pavuluri said.

From 1999 to 2001, 0.78 per 1,000 children ages 2 through 5 used antipsychotic drugs. That rate increased to 1.59 by 2007, according to a study published in the Journal of the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry.

In a Columbia University study, the rates of antidepressant use increased among people age 6 and older from 5.84% in 1996 to 10.12% in 2005.

Six years ago, Gorski and his wife mulled whether to put their eldest son on several prescription drugs. The Gorskis felt uneasy about putting their then-young son on so many drugs.

Gavin has Asperger's syndrome and schizoaffective disorder, which is similar to schizophrenia.

Without taking 17 pills each day, Gavin boasts that he can jump out the window and fly. He can't differentiate between reality and hallucinations. He loses all fear and runs in front of cars. Sometimes, he becomes violent to his family members.

The drugs help him so much, his father said.

"There is stigma attached to it," Gorski said about putting his son on several drugs. "People think you can manage it with diet and that you're making your child worse, that they're poisoned. If you take meds for the right reasons, it serves a purpose. It gives them a better life."

Other parents have expressed shock at the number of pills Gavin needs to consume.

"We don't medicate him because it makes life easier. We medicate him because it's best for him," said Gorski, a father of three special-needs children in Canton, Ohio.

Medication for mental illnesses is the cornerstone of treatment, especially when patients are aggressive and manic, said Pavuluri, an American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry spokeswoman.

She recalled a dramatic case of a 6-year-old patient who was using Google to search the word suicide and trying to eat the carbon off a pencil to harm herself.

In such cases, medication may be necessary, but doctors should try to rely less on pills for milder psychological disorders and examine the child's life as a whole, Pavuluri said.

"It's very important to see that behavior is related to how kids are being parented," Pavuluri said.

One diagnosis that is rapidly growing is attention deficit hyperactivity disorder. Nearly one in 10 U.S. children has a diagnosis of ADHD, according to a 2010 report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Not all ADHD cases require medication, medical experts said. There are nonpharmaceutical routes such as making sure the child's home life is more organized. Parents can limit screen time and teach planning skills to overcome some distractions, several medical experts said.

There could be bigger issues affecting children's behavior and attention, like a death in the family, an abusive relationship and other life experiences, experts said.

The problem could be a result of poor parenting, said Dr. Elizabeth Roberts, a child and adolescent psychiatrist.

"We are medicating children sometimes for ferociously awful behavior based on poor parenting," she said.

The behavior is construed as ADHD, and more severe cases are diagnosed as bipolar disorder, she said.

While stressing there are legitimate cases that call for medicating children, Roberts, who practices in Murrietta, California, warned against throwing pills at a problem.

Sometimes, parents fake a condition for the child in hopes of getting drugs for themselves, she said.

Some parents request prescription drugs because their kids misbehave in school, get low grades or got a lower SAT score than they had hoped for, Roberts said.

ADHD drugs such as Adderall and Ritalin have become popular on college campuses for students who don't have the condition but want to boost their academic performance through better focusing.

A 2010 CDC survey found that one in five U.S. high school students said they had taken a prescription drug such as OxyContin, Percocet, Vicodin, Adderall, Ritalin or Xanax without a physician's prescription.

"Who holds the key to the medicine?" Roberts said, about who controls access to the prescription drugs. "Not the drug companies, the parents, the teachers -- the doctors. They should stop this in the tracks."

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What happens when the kids are no longer minors and maybe decide not to continue with the drugs?

The family has three special needs children. Do they have the same or similar problems? Is it genetic?

I hope they are careful about monitoring for side effects.
 
Honestly, I wonder WHY it's on the rise. I suspect it's overdiagnosis.
 
definintely overdiagnosis! also most of teachers rather not to take care of kids but teaching them. Some teachers are great but some teachers are somehting I dont like about. Like they did not want to deal with kids behaviors without checking and sent a note to parents to have kids to see doctors. FINE but some of the results that kids are fine. There are something to do with teachers attitudes toward to kids. so more likely doctors assume right away to give them some medicines. god.
 
Also, I wonder how much effect their diet play in their rise of "mental illnesses."
 
Schizophrenia is genetic. I have 2 cousins who have it. It's hard to keep them on meds because of the disease itself. They tend to get paranoid and stop taking their meds. But for the meds, they'd be dead. As it is, the illness, even with the meds, robs them of a quality of life.
 
What happens when the kids are no longer minors and maybe decide not to continue with the drugs?

The family has three special needs children. Do they have the same or similar problems? Is it genetic?

I hope they are careful about monitoring for side effects.

A kid such as the one in the article would no doubt end up in a long term committment.
 
I am not in favor of medicating any child where a less effective, non-invasive intervention could help. By the same token, there are some children who are so sick that they cannot survive without the medications, and this article is definately referring to a child of that category.
 
Schizophrenia is genetic. I have 2 cousins who have it. It's hard to keep them on meds because of the disease itself. They tend to get paranoid and stop taking their meds. But for the meds, they'd be dead. As it is, the illness, even with the meds, robs them of a quality of life.

Know exactly where you are comining from. I have a relative who was diagnosed with childhood onset schizophrenia. People who have not experienced it first hand have no idea what the person with schizophrenia deals with on a daily basis...even medicated.
 
My aunt begged a judge to keep one of my cousins and the judge let him out on his own. Now, he lives in squalor, and he depends on the food that kind people leave outside his door (when he's not too paranoid to eat it).
 
My aunt begged a judge to keep one of my cousins and the judge let him out on his own. Now, he lives in squalor, and he depends on the food that kind people leave outside his door (when he's not too paranoid to eat it).

It is unfortunate that there are many that would fit this description. It creates an ethical dilemma for those of us charged with treatment and helping people like your cousin to stay safe. If I have learned anything, it is that there is no right or wrong answer, and what often seems like the wrong decision in society's eyes is the right decision for the individual.
 
What happens when the kids are no longer minors and maybe decide not to continue with the drugs?

The family has three special needs children. Do they have the same or similar problems? Is it genetic?

I hope they are careful about monitoring for side effects.

One of my brothers decided to stop taking his meds...ended up in and out jail for 4 years and just got out last November.
 
One of my brothers decided to stop taking his meds...ended up in and out jail for 4 years and just got out last November.

**nodding** It is generally either jail or a long term committment to a state hospital. Sometimes, both. I find it very sad. And all because society has a tendency to tell those with very real mental illnesses that do need medication that they wouldn't need medication if they would just "try harder".
 
**nodding** It is generally either jail or a long term committment to a state hospital. Sometimes, both. I find it very sad. And all because society has a tendency to tell those with very real mental illnesses that do need medication that they wouldn't need medication if they would just "try harder".

Well, my brother is definitely violent and is a danger to the public as of now. My dad and stepmom have tried and tried to get him help when he was a minor..had him medicated, sent to boarding school, and intensive therapy. He has to want to get better, I guess.
 
Well, my brother is definitely violent and is a danger to the public as of now. My dad and stepmom have tried and tried to get him help when he was a minor..had him medicated, sent to boarding school, and intensive therapy. He has to want to get better, I guess.

Sorry that it has been such a long road for him and for your family, but you are absolutely right. He has to want it. And, many times, people such as your brother are not convinced that they are needing help...they believe that there is nothing wrong with them.
 
Irony in demonstration:

We have one thread about over medicating kids, and another proposing that we put lithium in the drinking water!:laugh2:
 
Irony...oh yes!...My son, Matthew (16), I took him to the doctor for a sports physical....the nurse (or an assistant) took his blood pressure, pulse, etc....The doctor came in later, looked at the chart...decided to take his blood pressure again....

He turned to me and asked if high blood pressure was in the family...I said not to my knowledge....he said, "well, Matthew has a very high reading here, I'm concerned."...He scheduled an MRI, a cat scan for his liver & kidneys, etc. Several tests were done the following week....

He also gave Matthew 2 prescriptions to be filled....and said Matthew would not b e able to play sports...of course, that was a big blow to my son....

I made sure he took his meds daily....took him back for another check...blood pressure had not changed..was higher.....the doctor came in, had trouble with the blood pressure clasp/cuff (?)....to find that the nurse had been putting a "child's" clasp on my son, not an adults!...When he changed the clasps/cuff...my son's blood pressure was "normal"!...Matthew has very muscular arms!....Say what????

My son took those Meds for 2 or 3 months....for nothing!...and all those tests he had done, missing school...and of course being denied to play football!...I was very angry about this...but what could I do?....

So....I do feel many kids are diagnosed incorrectly, and given meds they do not need!
 
I made sure he took his meds daily....took him back for another check...blood pressure had not changed..was higher.....the doctor came in, had trouble with the blood pressure clasp/cuff (?)....to find that the nurse had been putting a "child's" clasp on my son, not an adults!...When he changed the clasps/cuff...my son's blood pressure was "normal"!...Matthew has very muscular arms!....Say what????

Oh no. I cannot believe they didn't think of that sooner.
 
Irony...oh yes!...My son, Matthew (16), I took him to the doctor for a sports physical....the nurse (or an assistant) took his blood pressure, pulse, etc....The doctor came in later, looked at the chart...decided to take his blood pressure again....

He turned to me and asked if high blood pressure was in the family...I said not to my knowledge....he said, "well, Matthew has a very high reading here, I'm concerned."...He scheduled an MRI, a cat scan for his liver & kidneys, etc. Several tests were done the following week....

He also gave Matthew 2 prescriptions to be filled....and said Matthew would not b e able to play sports...of course, that was a big blow to my son....

I made sure he took his meds daily....took him back for another check...blood pressure had not changed..was higher.....the doctor came in, had trouble with the blood pressure clasp/cuff (?)....to find that the nurse had been putting a "child's" clasp on my son, not an adults!...When he changed the clasps/cuff...my son's blood pressure was "normal"!...Matthew has very muscular arms!....Say what????

My son took those Meds for 2 or 3 months....for nothing!...and all those tests he had done, missing school...and of course being denied to play football!...I was very angry about this...but what could I do?....

So....I do feel many kids are diagnosed incorrectly, and given meds they do not need!

Wow, reminds me of my broken leg that "wasn't broken". BTW.....I think I mentioned this before. I missed 26 days my junior year having different tests done for HBP....they never found a cause.

I am shocked when a Dr. gets something right,
 
And these incidents have to do with medicating for diagnosed mental illness how?
 
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