Exchange of Views/Discussion

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Eve, I want answer your thread where you created to ask for our opinions. Therefore your thread is lock. T

I prefer to create my thread with title "Exchange of Views/Discussion" because the way of this word is maturity. I hope you don't mind.
http://www.alldeaf.com/showthread.php?t=20509


Eve:
What is your opinion on this issue?

Here is answer on my opinion.

Eve:
Don't ya just hate it when someone starts a controversial topic, knowing full well that a heated debate is likely to ensue?

Oceanbreeze:
If you can't handle the responses your going to get in a controversial topic, don't start the controversial topic in the first place!

Well, all topics in the forum are nevertheless in first line is for discussion, not start or looking for an argument. Is it necessary to starts or looking for an arguement?

Example about those issues:
Abortion
Religions
Parent
Children
Homosexuals
CI
Judgment
And others

I would respect creator’s note of attention because it’s his/her thread, they create to ask anyone to discuss in neat way with no bash/insult etc.

I would leave creator’s thread alone if I see what I don’t like.

When the creators starts a controversial topic then they should get anyone’s attention to put their note to ask anyone to share discuss agree to disagree with no bash/insult but respectful in first place.

Yes, I know that Admin. ruled his forum but I still would advise the creators to note to get anyone’s attention to not bashing, insult, judge etc to get them to respect creator’s thread because the creators want his/her thread to be clean and neat which I always did that when I create my threads.

See the example of Eve's note of attention:

Eve:
What is your opinion on this issue?


What do you think?



Eve’s
only to throw a temper tantrum when others show a difference of opinion? Why is it that these people then aren't mature enough to handle the debate, but would rather go tattle to daddy (or in this case, mods), rather than handle the situation themselves, especially when they are guilty of the same behavior they are accusing others of?

I’m afraid yes; I see the problem is some of people who have difficult to respect people’s agree/disagree discussion posts and creator’s attention note, too. I'm agree that the people who have difficult emotional problem who can't handle exchange of views/discussions with agree/disagree well. All what they do is built more immature posts to mess to make their arguements on creator’s thread with disrespectful and judgment. The creator repeats to ask them to respect their thread or leave their thread; unfortunately they don’t want to see it so the creator sees the force to report Admin. and moderators. Yes, of course it's not just creator but members, too who pressed bad report, too.


Eve:
Furthermore, when said individual doesn't get the response they want from one mod, they look to the other mod to override the first mods decision. This would be a very DEFIANT action, and if one of my children went to Daddy to override Mommy's decision, it would probably end in a spanking for defiance.

Oceanbreeze:
Well, it seems that the action of one of the mods wasn't good enough for some people, so they brought in "a second opinion". Sounds like the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing. Figures.

WRONG!
See an exactly what Cheri said in her post that there is no second opinion as what you claimed. ;)


Cheri:
When members pressed a bad report, All the moderators included Alex get the report. It has nothing to do with bringing in a second opinion or how it wasn't good enough. Before amusing like you always do, Get your fact straight or you'll make a fool out of yourself.


Oceanbreeze:
I've said this to ad nauseum. Some people here need to grow a thick skin, and deal with the myriad of comments that are coming from the variety of people on this forum. My siggy says it all... "If you can't stand the heat, then, get out of the damn kitchen!", which basically means this....

I have no problem to handle hot debates without running Admin./moderators because I CAN deal with them myself. ;) but the problem is judgment/disrespectful to mess creator’s good thread with their immature posts which is not acceptance.


CyberRed:
LMAO I think that was funny!
Yeah, I know what you mean.
I can see some people are like that -- the only way I can do is just ignorin' them right after I done my pieces what the issue was all about, just to drop some lines what I believe IMO. If, I see someone whines about what an issue is all about or another, I wouldn't post to keep goin' over and over. It's just wastin' my time, ya know ? I will just move on to other thread to read.

I do admit that my eyes picked up pretty good by how they respond - can tell who they are sidin' on. I am losin' interested in that part... tryin' to avoid as much as I can from certain members.

Interesting, look yourself what you made your posts at Religions threads here. ;)

Anyway, you has a right point:


the only way I can do is just ignorin' them right after I done my pieces what the issue was all about, just to drop some lines what I believe IMO.

If, I see someone whines about what an issue is all about or another, I wouldn't post to keep goin' over and over. It's just wastin' my time, ya know ? I will just move on to other thread to read

That’s exactly what I avoid most of threads and also drop few lines what I stand with IMO but it’s different story when there are creators who want their good threads to be neat and clean.

I have the rights to ask DFers for their opinions. Why not ? It doesn't mean that I complaint. I also could go to another forum where there is a religion and ask as well. I am sure they will agree with me...of course, not this site !


Yes, that’s right. I see no problem because it’s your decision what you pick whatever you like but the problem is how the lurkers feels when they saw your public posts at other forum.
Example: One person created her/his thread here to ask for opinion. You saw what you don’t like and then answered his/her thread and then run to other forum to get their opinions.


Look at me, I did not run to other forums to get their opinions like what I just create a new thread HERE to ASK Eve for her opinion directly because Eve’s lock thread is HERE, not running to other forum to get others’s opinions. This is maturity way to ask anyone directly.

Oceanbreeze:
I stand up for myself and what I believe in!

Exactly!
 
I would like to ask you all bit more questions.

As you know that all topics in the forum are nevertheless in first line is for discussion, not start or looking for an argument. Right?

Is it necessary to starts or looking for an arguement?


What do you think?
 
Liebling:-))) said:
Eve, I want answer your thread where you created to ask for our opinions. Therefore your thread is lock. T

I prefer to create my thread with title "Exchange of Views/Discussion" because the way of this word is maturity. I hope you don't mind.
http://www.alldeaf.com/showthread.php?t=20509




Here is answer on my opinion.





Well, all topics in the forum are nevertheless in first line is for discussion, not start or looking for an argument. Is it necessary to starts or looking for an arguement?

Example about those issues:
Abortion
Religions
Parent
Children
Homosexuals
CI
Judgment
And others

I would respect creator’s note of attention because it’s his/her thread, they create to ask anyone to discuss in neat way with no bash/insult etc.

I would leave creator’s thread alone if I see what I don’t like.

When the creators starts a controversial topic then they should get anyone’s attention to put their note to ask anyone to share discuss agree to disagree with no bash/insult but respectful in first place.

Yes, I know that Admin. ruled his forum but I still would advise the creators to note to get anyone’s attention to not bashing, insult, judge etc to get them to respect creator’s thread because the creators want his/her thread to be clean and neat which I always did that when I create my threads.

See the example of Eve's note of attention:




What do you think?





I’m afraid yes; I see the problem is some of people who have difficult to respect people’s agree/disagree discussion posts and creator’s attention note, too. I'm agree that the people who have difficult emotional problem who can't handle exchange of views/discussions with agree/disagree well. All what they do is built more immature posts to mess to make their arguements on creator’s thread with disrespectful and judgment. The creator repeats to ask them to respect their thread or leave their thread; unfortunately they don’t want to see it so the creator sees the force to report Admin. and moderators. Yes, of course it's not just creator but members, too who pressed bad report, too.






WRONG!
See an exactly what Cheri said in her post that there is no second opinion as what you claimed. ;)







I have no problem to handle hot debates without running Admin./moderators because I CAN deal with them myself. ;) but the problem is judgment/disrespectful to mess creator’s good thread with their immature posts which is not acceptance.




Interesting, look yourself what you made your posts at Religions threads here. ;)

Anyway, you has a right point:






That’s exactly what I avoid most of threads and also drop few lines what I stand with IMO but it’s different story when there are creators who want their good threads to be neat and clean.




Yes, that’s right. I see no problem because it’s your decision what you pick whatever you like but the problem is how the lurkers feels when they saw your public posts at other forum.
Example: One person created her/his thread here to ask for opinion. You saw what you don’t like and then answered his/her thread and then run to other forum to get their opinions.


Look at me, I did not run to other forums to get their opinions like what I just create a new thread HERE to ASK Eve for her opinion directly because Eve’s lock thread is HERE, not running to other forum to get others’s opinions. This is maturity way to ask anyone directly.



Exactly!

Well, you forgot one thing. I am STILL standin' on the ground for Jesus Christ. I don't believe in tarnishin' Him when some people say negative things about Him. It has nothin' to do with people here - it has to do with Jesus Himself. Just Him. It's why I go over to other forum and ask for their opinions - because, I feel that Jesus is # 1 priority in my life.

For example : If, anythin' should happen to anyone or this country ( USA ) or other country like yours, I am sure people will turn around and pray, askin' God for help or somethin' to comfort them -- why God ?? They say negative things about Him, sayin' that His Words has flaw or sayin' that humans wrote that book, not God. It hurts me enough to see people sayin' negative things about Him. Why hurt Him ?? What for ?? He gave people their Life and everythin' they could chose.

FYI, I do love people - any race. But, I don't like to see people sayin' disrespectful things about Him. I've experienced His Hand before. And, no I am not kiddin'.

He is the One who changed my life, my perspective, and understandin'. I already experienced Him.

About lurkers seein' my public posts in another forum - are they trollin' ?? A cop ?? You know what's funny ? I can sense that some lurkers are gossipin' behind this screen when they read my posts or say things that they roll their eyes at. Why should it bother them ? I saw one BIG post that was written by one certain member from HERE to another forum.... that person was talkin' about me. I already read that person's forum and I don't attempt to create another forum against that person AFTER I read that person's post about me. I just leave there and will always keep that in mind for a loooong time about that person, the one I will avoid at all time. I am not goin' to create a "friendship" with that person to start talkin' like to make new friends again. I know maybe you didn't know about this part. Sooo - just leave it as is. :)
 
Liebling:-))) said:
I would like to ask you all bit more questions.

As you know that all topics in the forum are nevertheless in first line is for discussion, not start or looking for an argument. Right?

Is it necessary to starts or looking for an arguement?

What do you think?

The formal definition of an argument is different from "arguing" and means a method of reasoning that attempts to demonstrate the truth or falsehood of something. Even more strictly, in logic, an argument is a set of statements where one statement follows the other logically.

You can have a polite discussion where both parties offer arguments, but at the same time they avoid arguing. :smoking:
 
The Heretic said:
The formal definition of an argument is different from "arguing" and means a method of reasoning that attempts to demonstrate the truth or falsehood of something. Even more strictly, in logic, an argument is a set of statements where one statement follows the other logically.

You can have a polite discussion where both parties offer arguments, but at the same time they avoid arguing. :smoking:

Logically yes, this is an exactly example:

http://www.alldeaf.com/showthread.php?t=95
Even though we support freedom of speech, show some respect, use common sense, and keep an open mind when participating in discussions.

That's an exactly what we do is keep our open mind, respect, common sense etc when the exchange of views/discussion comes.

Yes, depend on form of arguments where they offer with agree to disagree. All what we do is limit our polite exchange of views/discussion with logic but the problem is some of people can’t handle it, no matter how hard we tried to limit them because of their exaggeratedly – form of “aggressive” argument.


Thank you for share your feedback here. :thumb:
 
CyberRed said:
Well, you forgot one thing. I am STILL standin' on the ground for Jesus Christ. I don't believe in tarnishin' Him when some people say negative things about Him. It has nothin' to do with people here - it has to do with Jesus Himself. Just Him. It's why I go over to other forum and ask for their opinions - because, I feel that Jesus is # 1 priority in my life.

FYI, I do love people - any race.

Huh?

People in any race are in the types of religion:

Aboriginal Dreamtime
Adidam
African Religions
Afro-Brazilian Religions
Afro-Caribbean Religions
Agnosticism
Animism
Asatru
Atheism
Aum Shinri Kyo
Baha'i Faith
Buddhism
Candombl鼯b
Cao Dai
Channeling
Christianity
Confucianism
Cyberculture Religions
Deism
Divination
Ethical Culture
Firewalking
Fourth Way
Gnosticism
Hinduism
Humanism
Ifa
International Raelian Movement
Islam
Jainism
Judaism
Mazdaznan
Meditation
Messianic Judaism
Mithraism
Monasticism
Mysticism
Native American Religions
New Age
Occult
Paganism
Pantheism
Process, The
Rastafarian
Religious Science
Santer/b>
Satanism
Scientology
Shamanism
Shinto
Sikhism
Sky Kingdom
Spiritualism
Taoism
Tenrikyo
Theosophy
Umbanda
Unitarian-Universalism
Universal Life Church
Vedism
Voodoo
Wicca and Witchcraft
Yezidism
Zoroastrianism
 
Exchange of views/discussion:

Good thread there Liebling, I have a few things I would like to say/add to this topic...;)

Some people think that freedom of speech, You could say anything you want, But that's not true not in AllDeaf, there is a line to draw when it's inappropriate and not showing respect to another member while discussing a topic of the thread. That's why there is a rule applied that when you involved in an discussion, that AllDeaf accept freedom of speech, but show respect and use common sense.

If someone doesn't have anything nice to say or debates in a nicer way instead of down-right rude, then maybe that person should find another thread that would interested them. I would hate to see a thread going down a drain, that nobody would want to read. Sometimes it does embarrassed me how some deaf people/nor hearing people act, in fact when someone click onto AllDeaf and read some topics, seeing flaming war going on, and seeing members not getting along as agreeing to disagree in a respectful way, What is it worthily to read? Nothing. It's a turn-off. Correct? (That's how I feel) ;)

I have to prepare ourselves what we will get into, when we created a thread, What to expect and what not to expect. There are gotta be members coming in and just ruin it all for the fun of it. But, then your (anyone's) good thread is gone under, which wouldn't be a good thread anymore.

That's all I wanted to say at this time. Thank-you Liebling for allowing me to share my point of view on this. ;)
 
mld4ds said:
Huh?

People in any race are in the types of religion:

Aboriginal Dreamtime
Adidam
African Religions
Afro-Brazilian Religions
Afro-Caribbean Religions
Agnosticism
Animism
Asatru
Atheism
Aum Shinri Kyo
Baha'i Faith
Buddhism
Candombl鼯b
Cao Dai
Channeling
Christianity
Confucianism
Cyberculture Religions
Deism
Divination
Ethical Culture
Firewalking
Fourth Way
Gnosticism
Hinduism
Humanism
Ifa
International Raelian Movement
Islam
Jainism
Judaism
Mazdaznan
Meditation
Messianic Judaism
Mithraism
Monasticism
Mysticism
Native American Religions
New Age
Occult
Paganism
Pantheism
Process, The
Rastafarian
Religious Science
Santer/b>
Satanism
Scientology
Shamanism
Shinto
Sikhism
Sky Kingdom
Spiritualism
Taoism
Tenrikyo
Theosophy
Umbanda
Unitarian-Universalism
Universal Life Church
Vedism
Voodoo
Wicca and Witchcraft
Yezidism
Zoroastrianism

LOL No, that's not what I mean.
I mean I love people as persons. :)
 
Cheri said:
Exchange of views/discussion:

Good thread there Liebling, I have a few things I would like to say/add to this topic...;)

Some people think that freedom of speech, You could say anything you want, But that's not true not in AllDeaf, there is a line to draw when it's inappropriate and not showing respect to another member while discussing a topic of the thread. That's why there is a rule applied that when you involved in an discussion, that AllDeaf accept freedom of speech, but show respect and use common sense.

If someone doesn't have anything nice to say or debates in a nicer way instead of down-right rude, then maybe that person should find another thread that would interested them. I would hate to see a thread going down a drain, that nobody would want to read. Sometimes it does embarrassed me how some deaf people/nor hearing people act, in fact when someone click onto AllDeaf and read some topics, seeing flaming war going on, and seeing members not getting along as agreeing to disagree in a respectful way, What is it worthily to read? Nothing. It's a turn-off. Correct? (That's how I feel) ;)

I have to prepare ourselves what we will get into, when we created a thread, What to expect and what not to expect. There are gotta be members coming in and just ruin it all for the fun of it. But, then your (anyone's) good thread is gone under, which wouldn't be a good thread anymore.

That's all I wanted to say at this time. Thank-you Liebling for allowing me to share my point of view on this. ;)

Welcome :hug:

:gpost: Yes, it´s important to limit our response post in polite way to positive anyone´s negative posts.

Be relax, take time yourself for a while then you will be surprised that you forget your anger before you are able to calm their negatives posts with your positive posts.
 
In my own opinion, the ones who couldn't handle the heat in the kitchen would be the ones who couldn't hold their own tempers....If a member can't handle a hot debate by taking a deep breath before replying to a thread or a post otherwise it can result of breaking one single rule here....

It funni that same people who said " respect goes both ways " , maybe they should practice what they preach cause all I see is they have a lack for respecting others...

:nono: Tsk Tsk
 
DeafSCUBA98 said:
even people who worship satan?

Satan is not Sovereign God. God created him as an angel before Satan rebelled God.

To answer to your question : I do love people, but I don't love Satan they worship.
 
CyberRed, what you made your post here is :topic: because it´s not relate to my thread.

If you want to talk about God then create your own thread. :ty:
 
I have said this before, and I will repeat it one more time. If you throw the first stone, you should expect to have them thrown back. You placed a label on me and others as being "abusive" but couldn't handle it when I retorted.

We have already been over and over and over this and I still think it is immature to go running to the mods when you are guilty of the same thing you are accusing others of.

At this time, this is the best and only response you are going to get from me on the subject because I have more important things going on in my life which deserve more attention than this thread does (i.e. friends and family stranded in Texas). So, when things calm down there I may be able to devote more attention to this crap, but for now, I don't think so.
 
Eve said:
I have said this before, and I will repeat it one more time. If you throw the first stone, you should expect to have them thrown back. You placed a label on me and others as being "abusive" but couldn't handle it when I retorted.

They didn't throw a stone at you Eve, they simply posted their view on how they see spanking as a form of an abuse when you, I and the others don't see it as an abuse, yet it doesn't give you a right to throw your temper and insult them just cause they label us as an abuser since we do spank our own children...Do you see me and the others throwing our tempers and insulting them? no, that's because we can agree and disagree in a civil manner and see it from where theyre coming from too...

I don't expect others to agree with me all the time, but still I have to keep an open mind on both sides otherwise the thread will just simple go out of hand...


:::holding up a peace sign::: :o
 
Thank you Angel for your clarify to Eve. I appreciate it very much :hug:

Yes I knew I didnt say anything to upset/label everyone as abusive parent in my thread since they read my note of attention in my first thread and know there´s view of exchange with agree to disagree respectful. I have no problem with them because they are open mind and knows my limit.
See now, Eve. We are open mind to handle our view of exchange with agree to disagree because we knows our limits. They know there´re no accussing, attacking, etc. as what you label me or others who beleives spanking as form of abuse. I really have no idea why you kept on acuss us to label you or others as abusive parents who beleive spanking is not belong form of abuse because I never say but you. Sorry, I really has no idea/clue what you talking about, Eve.

If you can´t handle view of exchange then leave thread and look other thread. This is a simple.


I still think it is immature to go running to the mods when you are guilty of the same thing you are accusing others of.

No, I´m not guilty for accusing anyone in my thread because I knows my limit. ;)

Me and immature? You show it yourself. I had already to say you over and over to respect my thread or leave to look other thread please. You choose to disrespect it so I see the force to press bad report on you after have been tried to limit your posts. I can see that I´m not only one who press bad report on you.

If you want to be respect, then you should show your respect first for yourself.


 
*bump for the newbies*

Come and discuss about those subject:
"Exchange of Views/Discussion"

One ADer at other thread got my attention and agree with her point today. Because of this, I pulled those old thread out to here since I noticed some ADers have the problem to take debate posts serious. They can't see that each person has feeling and view which is different as other person. We have to accept the fact that we all have different feeling and views on any posts.
 
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