Dinosaurs?

Believe in Dinosaurs?

  • yes, they are very real.

    Votes: 25 89.3%
  • no, myth as tooth fairy tale.

    Votes: 1 3.6%
  • maybe, I don't know

    Votes: 2 7.1%

  • Total voters
    28

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Dinosaurs

1. They are reptiles? Or Bird like?
2. They are cold blooded or warm blooded?
3. Fossil is a stone, only proof they exist?
4. They lived during ice age with no fur?
5. Do they shed their dead skin everywhere like snakes do??
6. Do they need to stay under water to let their skin be moist?
7. There is no real dinosaur bones?
8. Those bones in museum are not real?

I am unsure about Evolution.
And I don't think there were dinosaurs.
Why we didn't find any fossil or dinosaurs bones?
maybe some artists long time ago, draw or use tool to shape the fossil like that.
 
Miss*Pinocchio said:
Dinosaurs

1. They are reptiles? Or Bird like?

I'd say that the dinosaurs are a branch of the reptiles and the birds are a branch of the dinosaurs.

2. They are cold blooded or warm blooded?

There are some kinds of dinosaurs with body types that look like they have active lives, suggesting they were warm blooded. There were also dinosaur fossils found in Antarctica and Australia. Australia and Antarctica were together back then in the south polar region, so those dinosaur experienced long dark winters like modern Antarctica does, suggesting that they were warm blooded. Feathered dinosaurs with little feathers that would be good for keeping warm suggest warm bloodness because the feathers trap heat made by the body. It won't work well with cold blooded animals because they'd also need to be able to warm up if they're too cold and feathers would make that harder without the body making heat. It is possible that some were cold blooded and some were warm blooded.

3. Fossil is a stone, only proof they exist?

Fossils are not the only things we have from the dinosaurs. We also have footprints and fossil dinosaur poo. There's somebody out there I read about who looks at the fossil poo to see bits of stuff the dinosaurs ate. The fossils of the bones have structures from the blood vessels that were in them and marks from the muscles' attachments to them. There are also fossils of internal organs like this dinosaur heart. There are other examples out there.

4. They lived during ice age with no fur?

There is no known Mesozoic ice age. The ice ages we know about are the current ice age, some during the Paleozoic and one from 800 to 600 million years ago and possiblity another one over two billion years ago. All of those, except for the current one, happened before there were dinosaurs.

5. Do they shed their dead skin everywhere like snakes do??

I didn't think of this before. It's an interesting question. I wonder how allagator skin grows. They're bigger reptiles so I thought maybe their skin could be similar.

6. Do they need to stay under water to let their skin be moist?

No, they won't need to do that if they had reptile skin. We know the textures from fossil skin impressions like those. Amphibians are the ones that need to keep their skin moist unless they have more tough skin like toads.

7. There is no real dinosaur bones?

Sure they are real. We know that from things like this:

"Our conclusive evidence of the authenticity of the Archaeopteryx holotype, however, is provided by what appear to be a number of fine lines on the main slab that run in various directions across the feather impressions in the region of the forelimb; some of them extend through the bony elements ofthe skeleton and on to the tail. They are difficult to spot with the naked eye, but their presence is shown with great clarity by critically lit ultraviolet photography. Associated in a few places with the more easily visible linear staining of an orange-brown colour, they are presumably hairline cracks and are generally filled with mineral matter. These cracks are also present on the counterslab in precisely the same positions."

This indicates that there is no intervening cement layer between the two slabs, as does the presence of manganese dioxide dendrites which have grown over the feather impression in some areas. These too match precisely on the two slabs, even in microscopic detail (Charig et al. 1986).

This means that the fossilized bones and the rock around it had been together for long enough to have those mineral filled cracks to form like that. Somebody creating fake fossils would make the fake bones and then put it into stuff that would solidify around it soon.

8. Those bones in museum are not real?

Sure, they have real bones in the museums. Maybe they would put plaster casts on display so that the real ones could be studied in the back rooms or basement or wherever.

I am unsure about Evolution.
And I don't think there were dinosaurs.
Why we didn't find any fossil or dinosaurs bones?
maybe some artists long time ago, draw or use tool to shape the fossil like that.

If they were made by artists, there would be marks from the tools on them with charactistic marks for different kinds of tools. Nobody had noticed such a thing on all of the fossils. What they did notice were those cracks mentioned above, signs that it really did fossilize and stay around for long enough to have that happen.

Not all fossils were found long ago. They're still finding more now.
 
It is impossible for dinosaur bones to still be around on earth....

Because there are beetles and larva that
eat bones.

I will ask the people at the museum if those dinosaur bones are real or plastic.
 
Miss*Pinocchio said:
It is impossible for dinosaur bones to still be around on earth....

Because there are beetles and larva that
eat bones.

I will ask the people at the museum if those dinosaur bones are real or plastic.

Those bugs can't aways get to the bones like when the creatures get deeply buried quickly. There are large fossil despoits in stuff like volcanic ash and mud slides. I know about things that eat bones in the deep sea like those. Can you show me the ones living on land? I'm sure that those bugs can't live in every kind of environment, so if a creature gets buried in stuff that the local bone eating bugs can't live in, then they could be fossilized.
 
I believe in dinosaurs. I don't believe in the Bible. ;)
 
Yes, they are real... their fossils are the best proof... I saw original at museum in London.
 
VamPyroX said:
I believe in dinosaurs. I don't believe in the Bible. ;)

good point there. Bible/Religion is just a story-fable to keep spirits honored like faith. That's all I can say. Dinos r real. I am sorry this is another stupid thread set up by P.
 
Liebling:-))) said:
Yes, they are real... their fossils are the best proof... I saw original at museum in London.
So, we have proof that dinosaurs exist. Yet, we don't have proof that the Bible is the truth.
 
The museum said some of the dinosaurs' bones are real....
But still I don't believe.
I don't understand why they didn't live today.

What if they are dragons, like the Bible said and the Chineses said too?

Maybe the knights killed every one of those dragons...

Dragons have wings too.

So if they were dragons, then that means that those dragons, so called dinosaurs weren't here billion or million of years ago... And they were here before Christ....

1000 BC.... Something like that.
 
Dragon


A dragon is a mythological creature, typically depicted as a large and powerful serpent or other reptile, with magical or spiritual qualities.


The various figures now called dragons most likely have no single origin, but spontaneously came to be in several different cultures around the world, based loosely on the appearance of a snake and possibly fossilizeddinosaur and Tertiary mammal megafauna remains.

Chinese dragons (among others) are generally seen as benevolent, whereas European dragons are usually malevolent. However, malevolent dragons are not restricted to Europe and also occur in Persian mythology (see Azi Dahaka) and other cultures.

Malevolent dragons are prominent figures in Christian belief. In Revelation 12:3, an enormous red dragon with seven heads is described, whose tail sweeps one third of the stars from heaven down to earth (held to be symbolic of the fall of the angels). In Revelation 12:9, Satan is identified as this "great red dragon", who was cast down to earth along with his angels.

The biblical dragon carries over thirty possible references, with the fire-breathing leviathan described in Job 41. Strong's Hebrew 03882: [1], 08568, 08577, and Greek 1404.

In iconography, some Christian Saints are depicted in the act of killing a dragon: for instance, Saint George in EgyptianCoptic iconography [2], at the coat of arms of Moscow, or, in Italy, Saint Mercurialis, who was the first bishop of the city of Forlì. In the Book of Job Chapter 41, the sea monster Leviathan, which has some dragonlike characteristics, is described as God talks about the "king of beasts" that lived upon the Earth at a former time. God fed Leviathan to Israel while they wandered in the wilderness for forty years (Psalm 74:14).

In medieval symbolism, dragons were often symbolic of apostasy and treachery, but also of anger and envy, and eventfully symbolised great calamity. Several heads were symbolic of decadence and oppression, and also of heresy. But they also served as symbols for independence, leadership and strength. Colours often determined what symbolism a dragon carried.

Dragons are often held to have major spiritual significance in various religions and cultures around the world. In many oriental cultures dragons were, and in some cultures still are, revered as representative of the primal forces of nature and the universe.

Some believe that the dragon may have had a real-life counterpart from which the legends around the world arose
 
Miss P.
Please don't change the subject..
Let's stick with the
dinosaur.gif
not the
dragon.gif
.
 
VamPyroX said:
So, we have proof that dinosaurs exist. Yet, we don't have proof that the Bible is the truth.


Unfortunlately I has to admit that I agree with you totally... I alway thought bible is true until I learn alot from those forum............. I don't know what should I say... all what I say that you are right.
 
Why we all can't say dinosaurs are dragons?

Just because scientists didn't say so?

So we should believe everything scientists say? :deal:
 
Miss*Pinocchio said:
Why we all can't say dinosaurs are dragons?

Just because scientists didn't say so?

So we should believe everything scientists say? :deal:

If you take a diamond to the jeweler to find out how much it's worth, do you ignore his advice because he's a jeweler?

My point is that biologists and even literature people will tell you that dinosaurs and dragons are very different and they should know better than we do. They study this stuff more than us. If anyone is wrong, we are more likely to be wrong than they are.
 
I might ignore the jewerlyer advice because if I go get 2nd opinion, that other jeweryer might say something else.

Same thing with docter, if he said I got stomach virus and then I go get 2nd opinion the other doctor might say food poisoning.

So scientists might have different opinions.

Same thing with preachers, they all have some different views about so and so.

The Bible doesn't describe animals the way we see.... For example, locust with a lion head.... We all know that it is a riddle....

So yeah the Bible is talking about dinosaur by calling it a dragon... In riddle and overexaggerated about dinosaurs...
So I think we and scientists should study deeply about it.
 
P, Have u been to tar pit park in LA? They found old dinosaur fossil in that tar pit so they do existed. How can u call that false? Also we have many fossils still out there waiting to be digging out. anyway do what u want to believe it or not.
 
I believe in dinosaurs, they're real. They found the bones, fossils, etc. If there weren't any. We won't know about the past, anyhow.
 
Okay I believe there were dinosaurs...

My conclusion is I don't think dinosaurs live billions or millions years ago...
I think they live during Biblical times, Chinese dynasty, and during Knighthood times because why did these people draw dragons that resemble dinosaurs?
Darwin may have discovered the dinosaurs' bones and fossil, the people during Biblical times may have saw live dinosaurs.
And I believe humans hunt them down and killing them all.
Remember the phrase, "the last dragon".
That is when all the dinosaurs died.

That is my opinion.
 
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