Chicago Starts The Week With 14 Shot In 15 Hours

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"We have way too many guns on the streets of the city of Chicago."

Chicago's bloody weekend spilled into the workweek, as 14 people were shot in the city over a 15-hour period from late Monday night to early Tuesday morning.

At least six people died. They included a pregnant woman and her mother, who were struck by a "barrage of bullets" in the Back of the Yards neighborhood, NBC Chicago reports. The woman's 11-month-old child was also injured in the shooting, although he is expected to recover.

Two men were injured in the same shooting and taken to the hospital, one of them in critical condition, WGN reports.

"You have an innocent family coming home from a family outing. Somebody opens fire on two women, a child and two men," Chicago Deputy Police Chief Eugene Roy told the media. "In a second, two generations of that child's family were wiped out."

The city has been suffering a series of late-summer shootings. This week's gun violence follows two weekends in a row during which more than 50 people were shot. According to the Chicago Tribune, that alarming statistic is a first since the paper began tracking shootings in the city four years ago.

Mayor Rahm Emanuel used the shootings to call for stricter gun control, which has been a central theme of his administration.

"I'm gonna try to control my anger," Emanuel said at a press conference on Tuesday. "We have way too many guns on the streets of the city of Chicago, with too little values, and the penalties that don't match the values of the city of Chicago."

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I am in the midst of baking cookies so am not taking time to lookup a place where this was published but my understanding is that the gun problem in Chicago does not come from those with legal guns but from illegal ones brought in from outside the city and stolen ones. So how are stricter gun laws going to change that?
 
I am in the midst of baking cookies so am not taking time to lookup a place where this was published but my understanding is that the gun problem in Chicago does not come from those with legal guns but from illegal ones brought in from outside the city and stolen ones. So how are stricter gun laws going to change that?

That is a very good question!

I would like to hear a good answer to that.

Hint: There isn't one!
 
I am in the midst of baking cookies so am not taking time to lookup a place where this was published but my understanding is that the gun problem in Chicago does not come from those with legal guns but from illegal ones brought in from outside the city and stolen ones. So how are stricter gun laws going to change that?

Exactly

Before JFK ERA, anybody can order firearms regardless of their age, background, etc and there wasnt any school shooting, after JFK, gun control came into politics, so is drug ban as well, guess what? We r seeing more and more shooting.

Ask yourself, howcome 25%, thats 1/4 of world prison inmates is in the United States, and we got 4 times more inmates in prison here than in China!
 
When the light going to come on.If it federal law no guns then all citizens adhere to it is that right.
what ever reason do anybody have carrying gun in a city
 
Most shootings and violence have to do with either gangs or domestic violence. And Chicago is a HUGE gang city.
 
When the light going to come on.If it federal law no guns then all citizens adhere to it is that right.
That would be unconstitutional. Our Constitution, Amendment 2, guarantees the right to bear arms.

what ever reason do anybody have carrying gun in a city
Protection.
 
This constitution go back many years and apilcable at the time is it not possible to update to thinking of this century.
Yes the gangs I don't know answer to that,I think people have some need to put themselves into groups or tribes.To easy for these young violent out of control boys get hold of them.do they feel margentalisebd..It is a problem some of our cities are getting but media block on us knowing to much
 
When the light going to come on.If it federal law no guns then all citizens adhere to it is that right.
what ever reason do anybody have carrying gun in a city

Drugs, crime, rape, robbery and so much else is banned by the federal government... So the US does not have any of these I guess?

It's pretty to think that gun control is the answer... With the American mind set it will only make things worse...

Guns are a passion and a life style for many Americans, why punish law abiding citizens when they are the only ones that will give them up... Not to mention it will create criminals out of otherwise law abiding citizens...
 
This constitution go back many years and apilcable at the time is it not possible to update to thinking of this century.
Yes the gangs I don't know answer to that,I think people have some need to put themselves into groups or tribes.To easy for these young violent out of control boys get hold of them.do they feel margentalisebd..It is a problem some of our cities are getting but media block on us knowing to much

The Constitution is the heart of the United States... To get rid of it, is to erase the US as a whole... It is still very applicable to the nation regardless of when it was written... That it the beauty of it. They knew in the begining that things would change as the years passed, so it can be flexible as well...
 
Just to add, gun rights are part of the Second Amendment to the Constitution, which is one of the amendments that make up the Bill of Rights, the most sacrosanct of the Constitution's elements.
 
Just to add, gun rights are part of the Second Amendment to the Constitution, which is one of the amendments that make up the Bill of Rights, the most sacrosanct of the Constitution's elements.

That's correct about US Supreme Court ruled that - it is not part of regulated militias (National Guard).

Anti-gun advocates said 2nd Amendment limit the gun rights to regulated militias only - that how 2nd Amendment wrote that.
 
There is no easy awsner.
Its not the availibity of guns which is the issue..mexico has some of most strict and draconin gun control laws in the world....we all know how low mexicos murder rate is.....

.the real issue is culture.

Gangland.culture, and american culture.

The plms clearly and obviously cannot and will not be solved by prohibiting firaems...
As criminals dont follow laws.

Prohibiting drugs hasnt stopped drug use or dealing has it?
The plm is an american one...

Canada has gun control as well as legal means for citizens to aquire them. And law abiding citizens can aquire all kinds of guns...few are prohibited...
We still have murders...but our population is 30 million spread from the atlantic to pacific to artic...most on the border

Gun control worked here due to cultural reasons first and formost..
It wont work in america...

Thus another way needs to be found...
 
There is no easy awsner.
Its not the availibity of guns which is the issue..mexico has some of most strict and draconin gun control laws in the world....we all know how low mexicos murder rate is.....

.the real issue is culture.

Gangland.culture, and american culture.

The plms clearly and obviously cannot and will not be solved by prohibiting firaems...
As criminals dont follow laws.

Prohibiting drugs hasnt stopped drug use or dealing has it?
The plm is an american one...

Canada has gun control as well as legal means for citizens to aquire them. And law abiding citizens can aquire all kinds of guns...few are prohibited...
We still have murders...but our population is 30 million spread from the atlantic to pacific to artic...most on the border

Gun control worked here due to cultural reasons first and formost..
It wont work in america...

Thus another way needs to be found...

You bring up very valid points about culture.

At various points they try blame media and the like, but I do not see it.

But Canada does have stricter laws on fighting and other violence towards others it seems... or is this a misconception on my part...
 
You bring up very valid points about culture.

At various points they try blame media and the like, but I do not see it.

But Canada does have stricter laws on fighting and other violence towards others it seems... or is this a misconception on my part...

On the books yes...
But really here. It depends where you are..
In the interior, or north, or frontier....its a very very very very different place then say. Down town toronto

And thus while the same laws federal criminal code apply, the application of of the code varies...
The rule of thunb here is
The more north you go, the more violent a place youll encounter
More in the sense old school saloon fights....and assults so on...not so much shootings...
Guns prevalent, up there but used on beasts as canadian meat tastes great...

Reservs are a different place...
And there is plenty of murders thriught the nation interior..mainly just tagged missing in the bush...

We have all kinds of plms too...just different ones...
 
On the books yes...
But really here. It depends where you are..
In the interior, or north, or frontier....its a very very very very different place then say. Down town toronto

And thus while the same laws federal criminal code apply, the application of of the code varies...
The rule of thunb here is
The more north you go, the more violent a place youll encounter
More in the sense old school saloon fights....and assults so on...not so much shootings...
Guns prevalent, up there but used on beasts as canadian meat tastes great...

Reservs are a different place...
And there is plenty of murders thriught the nation interior..mainly just tagged missing in the bush...

We have all kinds of plms too...just different ones...

Lol not sure about the Canadian meat tasting better, but we are all a bit bias on things :p

I am wondering if the strictness, even if it is just on the books has something to do with it... For it would affect the mind frame and thinking process...
The US has such a laid back attitude about it that it takes a mass shooting for people to notice. While contrary to common belief it is blunt objects and stabbings that account for most murders. . Then again it could be that the most common shooting have people with horrible aim and hospitals nearby.
 
Kinda funny that in Obama's Chicago where there's some of the strictest gun control laws, over 10 times the number of people shot in Oregon were shot in Chicago just in the last couple of weeks.
 
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