Bush = a plain IDIOT? This evidence says so.

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Before I can paste few important points, to some republicans/conservatives, the source of article is CNN... yes, your lovely Religious Right-leaning biased non-partisan news. Here it is:

CNN said:
"President Bush told black leaders Tuesday that his plan to add private accounts to Social Security would benefit blacks since they tend to have shorter lives than some other Americans and end up paying in more than they get out."
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CNN said:
"African-American males have a -- have had a shorter life span than other sectors of America," said White House press secretary Scott McClellan. "And this will enable them to build a nest egg of their own and be able to pass that nest egg on to their survivors."
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Source: http://www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/01/25/bush.meeting.ap/index.html


So he labelled that African-Americans have shorter lives than Caucasians? :roll: His idiocy and lies has never ceased to amaze me. It made me glad that 89% of African-Americans voted against Bush.
 
Eh? Bush said that? That really didn't surprise me at all. :roll:
 
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bush is a complete idiot for sure.

however I cant seem to find any sources that say caucasians live longer than african american's either....so i dont see the point of this

besides...at least for once he's helping african americans get more money for social security or pass it on to others.
 
Cjanik said:
however I cant seem to find any sources that say caucasians live longer than african american's either....so i dont see the point of this
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Based on Bush's words, that is pretty obvious. But actually, I found this article at one of conservative-leaning sites and several conservative-members made the remarks that caucasians does live longer than african-americans which I found it very ridiculous.
 
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Magatsu said:
Before I can paste few important points, to some republicans/conservatives, the source of article is CNN... yes, your lovely Religious Right-leaning biased non-partisan news.
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I never watch CNN because of its left-wing bias.
 
Cjanik said:
however I cant seem to find any sources that say caucasians live longer than african american's either....so i dont see the point of this.
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"However, average life expectancy rates do differ by gender and ethnicity. For example, life expectancy for American white males is age 73; for white females, age 79. Life expectancy for African-American males is 65, and age 74 for the African-American females."
http://sun.science.wayne.edu/~wpoff/cor/gro/longevty.html

Therefore, on average, black males die 8 years sooner than white males.
 
Reba said:
I never watch CNN because of its left-wing bias.
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Hahaha! It is right-wing bias. How do I know because ton of religious right-leaning sites heavily depends on CNN due to its support Religious Right and its politics.

but again, if you say so.
 
Magatsu said:
But actually, I found this article at one of conservative-leaning sites and several conservative-members made the remarks that caucasians does live longer than african-americans which I found it very ridiculous.
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What part do you find ridiculous?
 
I have seen, and not from Bush, that African Americans do have a shorter average life span. I'm not sure what the fuss is all about. He wasn't pulling something out of his butt. There are numerous differences between ethnic groups other than color. African Americans, on average, have higher blood pressure than their white counter parts. That has been a health concern for a number of years.
 
Bush actually said that? *Shakes head* No wonder he didn't do his homework at college. :P
 
Magatsu said:
Hahaha! It is right-wing bias. How do I know because ton of religious right-leaning sites heavily depends on CNN due to its support Religious Right and its politics.

but again, if you say so.
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That is bizarre. Every conservative individual and group that I know considers CNN extremely liberal because it supports liberal causes and Democrats. Most conservatives prefer to watch Foxnews or MSNBC.
 
mspottedhorse said:
I have seen, and not from Bush, that African Americans do have a shorter average life span. I'm not sure what the fuss is all about. He wasn't pulling something out of his butt. There are numerous differences between ethnic groups other than color. African Americans, on average, have higher blood pressure than their white counter parts. That has been a health concern for a number of years.
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:gpost:

Yeah, this does have nothing to do with Bush..
This is true when I first heard about it
a few years ago I thought it was just
a false hoax/rumor about African Americans, but then
I found out it's TRUE about higher percent of these
African Americans die earlier than white people...
Many African Americans died from similar health problems
only because of what kind of food
they tend to eat (especially fried chickens, etc)
 
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Reba said:
What part do you find ridiculous?
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Logic-based studies in Germany, Sweden, England, Canada, etc etc.. said otherwise about African-Americans and their lifespan. The problem is about America and their studies, they tend to alter the scientific results to 'fit' to inspire their 'Caucasians pride'. Just like what they did with drugs and its side effects.

But new studies reveal that Caucasians and their lifespan are starting to get shorter and shorter due to improperly food consumption.

Also it is seemingly deemed that republicans/conservatives are, in fact, racists?
 
Reba said:
That is bizarre. Every conservative individual and group that I know considers CNN extremely liberal because it supports liberal causes and Democrats. Most conservatives prefer to watch Foxnews or MSNBC.
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It does not even extremely liberal.. nowhere near liberal-view.

Here's information:

That CNN would run such transparantly partisan advocacy masquerading as journalism shows one thing - CNN's bias is not a liberal one.
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Source: http://www.webpan.com/dsinclair/myths.html
 
mspottedhorse said:
I have seen, and not from Bush, that African Americans do have a shorter average life span. I'm not sure what the fuss is all about. He wasn't pulling something out of his butt. There are numerous differences between ethnic groups other than color. African Americans, on average, have higher blood pressure than their white counter parts. That has been a health concern for a number of years.
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That's America and its studies for you. only few countries will jump on wagon and support America's twisted pride.

Nothing more really.
 
Magatsu said:
That's America and its studies for you. only few countries will jump on wagon and support America's twisted pride.

Nothing more really.
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But Americans live different lifestyles than other countries. These statements could be true when we talking about African-Americans in America and may not be the same in another country. Just because the average lifespan of an African-American male is 65 years old in America doesn't mean the average would be the same for a black person in the UK.

Because it is a shorter life span in American doesn't make the studies twisted at all.
 
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CATO INSTITUTE POLICY FORUM SOCIAL SECURITY AND AFRICAN AMERICANS Race, Retirement, and Reform Tuesday, March 19, 2002 Panel 1: Is Social Security Fair to African Americans? ...

"...the unintended consequences of our country's devotion to this program and its continuation in its exact iteration. It has many flaws. But in particular one that today's focus brings to our attention is a very, very pernicious flaw. And that is that it exacerbates race-based income disparities. Today, elderly blacks are much more likely than almost any other group in our country to be dependent on Social Security as their primary source of income during their retirement... It's a fact that blacks receive a substantially lower return on their contribution -- called taxes -- to Social Security than other race groups. Add to this the fact that blacks in general have a substantially shorter lifespan than whites and you see the truly perverse circumstance that we face. The minority group pays in at the same rate as everyone else but receives substantially less than everyone else.
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Think of it this way -- if you live to be 90, you'll get more benefits than people who live to be 70. The life expectancy for black males is 66. For white males it's 74. Even if we could shrink that to as little as a three-year difference, that can mean as much as $30,000 in lost income. According to a study by the RAND Corporation, the net effect of just the age and life expectancy differential is the equivalent of a lifetime transfer of $10,000 per black person to white people. The typical black male receives 88 cents for every dollar that he contributes to the Social Security program...."
http://www.cato.org/events/transcripts/020319et.pdf
 
mspottedhorse said:
But Americans live different lifestyles than other countries. These statements could be true when we talking about African-Americans in America and may not be the same in another country. Just because the average lifespan of an African-American male is 65 years old in America doesn't mean the average would be the same for a black person in the UK.

Because it is a shorter life span in American doesn't make the studies twisted at all.
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No no, that's not what I mean. I was speaking of other countries and their studies on Americans which counter America and its studies repeatedly in past and present, possibly will be in future.
 
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