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The bitter irony of it all of course is isis exists due to american hubris, as well as support,

If one cared to look, one would easily find how american policy not just the invasion of iraq which alowed groups such as these to florish but actuall support for them against Asad. Isis is just a culmination of american bluders and horrible deads..irag is case in point, that invasion, was and truly was a horrible blunder, as well as illagal, contrary to international law,  and established rules for nations.

But...

Lets not let facts get in the way of a diScusion


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