Ape to Man

[Mookie]

History Channel: Ape to Man

Hmm, I do believe in evolution. May i remind you that Koko can sign in our sign language...

 

[IcedTeaRulz]

Sorry, i don't beleive in evolution.

 

[Reba]

Sorry, i don't beleive in evolution.

Same here.

 

[rjr2006]

Same here.

me too

 

[Mistyrose]

*Waving my hand* count me in...I dont believe it either!!!!

 

[Mookie]

Koko: (sniffs) Why....you.....(sniffs)...hurt..............me????????

 

[Steel X]

isn't that enough proof to show you "evloution"...?

 

[Levonian]

Chimpanzees and bonobos are a closer genetic match to humans than they are to gorillas and orangutans—how much more evidence do you need? There is just no way to dispute the fact that chimps and bonobos should be subsumed under the genus Homo.Take a good look at my avatar. He looks more human than some of Mayflower’s old boyfriends. *ducks for cover*

 

[apathrev]

Not really. Alot of scientist will argue that our DNA is 97% similar to apes. But ask them who our cloest match is, and they'll tell you we're closer to dogs. I'm not quite sure how I feel on Evolution. I haven't studied it truly enough to have an opinion on Macroevolution, but I do believe that Microevolution is a possibility, as suggested by Darwin's studies.

 

[Levonian]

But ask them who our cloest match is, and they'll tell you we're closer to dogs.

Reliable cite, por favor?

 

[apathrev]

It wasn't a written source, but a quote I've heard from several shows on Discovery Channel, Animal Planet, Etc.

 

[apathrev]

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/09/0925_030925_doggenes.html
http://www.rednova.com/news/general/9117/dog_more_similar_to_humans_than_is_mouse/

They do not directly state it, but in rearching this, I found several sites discrediting the belief of how similar man and ape are.

http://www.disinfo.com/archive/pages/article/id3194/pg1/
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/09/0924_020924_dnachimp.html

 

[Mookie]

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/09/0925_030925_doggenes.html
http://www.rednova.com/news/general/9117/dog_more_similar_to_humans_than_is_mouse/

They do not directly state it, but in rearching this, I found several sites discrediting the belief of how similar man and ape are.

http://www.disinfo.com/archive/pages/article/id3194/pg1/
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/09/0924_020924_dnachimp.html

Ape eats meat then he becomes human 99.99999%

Ow! Something pokes my rib.....Ahhhh. Something growing bigger than a wart....Ohhh....ahhhh. Please contact i911.....(pass out)

5 hours later...

(Open eyes) Whoa, a nude lady stands by me....

 

[apathrev]

Well, if you're going to put it like that then, I guess all my vegetarian friends are already apes, and all my vegan friends are beyond apes. Interesting.

 

[Reba]

isn't that enough proof to show you "evloution"...?

Nope. They don't even look close.

 

[Reba]

...Take a good look at my avatar. He looks more human than some of Mayflower’s old boyfriends. *ducks for cover*

 

[ravensteve1961]

The only show lev watches about chimps is planet of the apes.

 

[Levonian]

Here’s a female bonobo in estrus, from Frans De Waal’s book Bonobo: the Forgotten Ape. Not only do bonobos sometimes bear an extremely strong resemblance to humans, sexual behaviors amongst the two species are so similar that one primatologist I know refers to De Waal’s book as ‘coffee table porn’.

 

[ravensteve1961]

Apes are not in porn. Prove it to me lev

 

[Mookie]

Apes are not in porn. Prove it to me lev

Frans de Waal - Bonobo: The Forgotten Ape

This remarkable primate with the curious name is challenging established views on human evolution. The bonobo, least known of the great apes, is a female-centered, egalitarian species that has been dubbed the "make-love-not-war" primate by specialists. In bonobo society, females form alliances to intimidate males, sexual behavior (in virtually every partner combination) replaces aggression and serves many social functions, and unrelated groups mingle instead of fighting. The species's most striking achievement is not tool use or warfare but sensitivity to others.

Bonobos are just as related to people as are chimps. But the females are clearly in charge. They're peaceful. More intriguing: They have sex all the time, not to procreate but to settle conflict or get to know each other -- and unlike other animals, they have it face-to-face with some French kissing thrown in.

Chimps often fight viciously, especially with strangers, even taking over territory by killing the adult males. Bonobos rarely fight. Videos of groups meeting in the wild show them nervous and shrieking but not physically attacking. Gradually, the females approach each other and initiate cautious sexual contact.

And sex among bonobos is reminiscent of the Kamasutra. It's not just male-female -- they have same-gender sex, oral sex, masturbation, group sex. Like humans, they have face-to-face intercourse, making scientists wonder if they're more emotionally intimate than other animals. In zoos, the average bonobo initiates sexual contact every 1 1/2 hours.