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So you were attacking the topic, not the individual??? How about we just get back on topic and play nice ;)

Too bad Condi isn't an option ;)

I just don't think they are going to be able to enforce this policy. They already don't enforce lack of vehicle insurance and that affects more than just the person driving the car, as when they do get into an accident and cause bodily injury to another individual it causes all of our rates to...

Sorry, I couldn't find a transcript, so I asked my 16-yr-old to help transcribe the video....

then you need to open your eyes...you implied, no you stated that koko is "acting stupidly" simply because he disagrees with you on the matter

yes, i know it is not captioned, sorry, most youtubes aren't

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC2HpLceWzA

Refer to the chart. Obama had been directed on this issue before. Most presidents refer to their advisors on matters of foreign behaviors. He obviously hasn't followed their advice.

I posted a chart showing the intentions behind the level of each bow. I doubt one Asian friend would bow deeply to his buddy for a mere greeting.

If it were the first time he had made this "mistake" that would be one thing, but it's not. He did this before and obviously didn't learn from that "mistake".

yup

A head nod would have sufficed.

You, dear

I certainly didn't imply that GWB was a master of proper behavior, but I don't recall him ever showing subjection to foreign monarch. In fact, I don't recall ANY previous American president ever doing this until now.

I agree that respect should be shown, not subjection

If it were merely a greeting, it would only involve a nod of the head, not a full body contortion. Being from a "bowing" culture, you should know that. There is nothing ignorant or bigoted about this discussion. To imply that is just playing the "race card."

Jiro, dear, I thought there wouldn't be anymore personal attacks in this debate?

Miss Manners: "One does not bow or curtsy to a foreign monarch because the gesture symbolizes recognition of her power over her subjects."

That is not true. Bows relay much more than just a greeting. Saikeirei is a showing of subserviency.