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Hi ADers,

I was looking up the information about the boot camp for troubled teenagers or for the military training. But I would like everyone's POV about boot camp and if any of you know anyone whether any member of your family or your friends who experienced boot camp because they were out of control etc. What were your thoughts and experience that you learned from someone or anyone who went through there before would like to share experience.

I was watching the TV program about boot camp, and it sure is no fun being there. The drill instructor was being strict with discipline and to teach those a lesson about life and to try turn their life around for the better. Do any of you think that boot camp will help them change their behavior.. if not.. explain why.

I'd like everyone's POV or heard experience from someone they know who went through there before. Share and Discuss with respect please :ty:
 
Calvin said:
Hi ADers,

I was looking up the information about the boot camp for troubled teenagers or for the military training. But I would like everyone's POV about boot camp and if any of you know anyone whether any member of your family or your friends who experienced boot camp because they were out of control etc. What were your thoughts and experience that you learned from someone or anyone who went through there before would like to share experience.

I was watching the TV program about boot camp, and it sure is no fun being there. The drill instructor was being strict with discipline and to teach those a lesson about life and to try turn their life around for the better. Do any of you think that boot camp will help them change their behavior.. if not.. explain why.

I'd like everyone's POV or heard experience from someone they know who went through there before. Share and Discuss with respect please :ty:
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I'm support bootcamp to discipline on teenagers with behavior issues, most of them are successes to improve their behavior since some aren't, usually teenagers who have mental issue could cause conflict and rejection in bootcamp.
 
I went thru Navy boot camp in 1970. Military boot camp and so-called boot camps for troubled young people are not the same thing.
 
Reba said:
I went thru Navy boot camp in 1970. Military boot camp and so-called boot camps for troubled young people are not the same thing.
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Care to explain what's the difference between the 2 ? :)
 
Well, its ok as long they dont get too hard on the
kids. I once watched the story on TV and this
kid was in boot camp cuz he was out of control
but he died because the hard nosed discipliarin ignored
his cries of pain when he thought he was being whiny
or something but it was real physical pain. I think if i remember
right, it was due to his heart condition that was not detected
by doctors.
They just have to be careful not to go overboard on discipline,
thats all. I think it is worthwhile program if they just dont
get too hard on the kids and be sure they are in good
physical health.
 
I support boot camp for trouble teens....I don't want to see teens go to a wrong path when she/he gets older. I would only if my son keep rebel and not listen, get in trouble etc...but that cost $$. Oh boy!
 
One of my brothers was sent to boot camp when he was 15 years old but he ran away after a few weeks there...guess it didnt work for him.
 
I think that boot camp only scares teens into obedience but doesn't solve the root cause for their misbehavior. When people misbehave, they are acting out of pain. The pain needs to be dealt with. Boot camp tries decrease by the pain by putting tons of outside pressure on it. But it just makes the pain denser and more unstable...the pain needs to be let out in the open to breathe so the sufferer can process it. Once the pain is processed, the misbehaviors often end naturally, as part of the healing process.

In short, I prefer the compassionate approach over the disciplinarian approach. I went to an extremely strict school and I can tell you we were very well behaved but once we were no longer fearing authority we would lash out like crazy. And why is that? Being overly authoritarian/disciplinarian turns nice people into angry people. And now I that I have dealt with those feelings, I truly have no desire to "lash out." I don't need to be scared into submission to be behave well, the behavior is internally generated.
 
Whoops I guess my "in short" wasn't so short after all.
 
Maria said:
Care to explain what's the difference between the 2 ? :)
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The military's goal for boot camp or basic training is not to rehabilitate troubled young people. The military screens out troubled people (the best they can). They don't want people who are rebellious, addicted, emotionally unstable, unhealthy, or with a police record.

Military training takes individuals and shapes them into team members who can take orders from the chain of command. They teach self discipline, military history and philosophy, physical fitness, wearing of the uniform, military customs and courtesy, basic military skills, and UCMJ regulations.

Upon successful completion of boot camp, graduates either go to their first duty assignment or get sent to further training. That further training is usually skills training for a specific profession.

Recruits are committed to at least a couple years of active service.

I don't know what happens at "boot camps" for troubled teens but I know they aren't there for the same reasons, under the same commitments, as military recruits are. Military recruits aren't there for punishment or rehab.

Also, military recruits are not minors, and they are under a legally binding contract, so they can be forced to do things that can't be done with minor teens.
 
I don't agree with boot camp for troubled teens.

How can you truly get to the root of the cause or the source of the problem with screaming/barking orders by superiors at youngsters?

You really need to communicate with troubled teens these days and get down to the root of their issues. Some may say some obese teenagers are lazy to exercise whereas I disagree because some teenagers use emotional eating to mask their issues.

Some violent teenagers use anger and violence to mask their issues.

It's always the minor actions that masks the major actions.
 
Interesting... yes, the boot camp and military boot camp are different while both do teach self discipline. It almost like military style but they teach about self respect, obedience, and behavior issues so it's different from actual military.

Like Mistyrose mentioned there is some boot camp that are more harsh and cruel punishment that was in the headlines few years back that a 14 years old boy died there. Some boot camps are good some are bad, it depends on where it is.

Some interesting information I found here: Boot Camps For Teens
 
Mrs Bucket said:
I don't agree with boot camp for troubled teens.

How can you truly get to the root of the cause or the source of the problem with screaming/barking orders by superiors at youngsters?

You really need to communicate with troubled teens these days and get down to the root of their issues. Some may say some obese teenagers are lazy to exercise whereas I disagree because some teenagers use emotional eating to mask their issues.

Some violent teenagers use anger and violence to mask their issues.

It's always the minor actions that masks the major actions.
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That's true and you have a valid point. :)
 
I think the "boot camp" atmosphere is nothing short of abusive. I think a troubled teen needs love and compassion, not abuse.
 
love and compassion got nowhere. Think about how family members and counselors have tried with love & compassion. It got nowhere so Boot Camp is the last resort. Most troubled teens have one same problem - lack of respect to authority and rules. It's the first step to tackling the problems.
 
I disagree, Jiro.

Boot camp situations is what led to my lack of respect for authority and rules. Authority figures abusing their positions of power, doing things that they should be in jail for, all in the name of "respect and authority."

I believe in a different kind of respect. The kind of respect that says that each and every person is a valuable person and that no one person is inherently better than another.
 
Reba said:
The military's goal for boot camp or basic training is not to rehabilitate troubled young people. The military screens out troubled people (the best they can). They don't want people who are rebellious, addicted, emotionally unstable, unhealthy, or with a police record.

Military training takes individuals and shapes them into team members who can take orders from the chain of command. They teach self discipline, military history and philosophy, physical fitness, wearing of the uniform, military customs and courtesy, basic military skills, and UCMJ regulations.

Upon successful completion of boot camp, graduates either go to their first duty assignment or get sent to further training. That further training is usually skills training for a specific profession.

Recruits are committed to at least a couple years of active service.

I don't know what happens at "boot camps" for troubled teens but I know they aren't there for the same reasons, under the same commitments, as military recruits are. Military recruits aren't there for punishment or rehab.

Also, military recruits are not minors, and they are under a legally binding contract, so they can be forced to do things that can't be done with minor teens.
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:ty:
 
Nika said:
I disagree, Jiro.

Boot camp situations is what led to my lack of respect for authority and rules. Authority figures abusing their positions of power, doing things that they should be in jail for, all in the name of "respect and authority."

I believe in a different kind of respect. The kind of respect that says that each and every person is a valuable person and that no one person is inherently better than another.
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sorry but no. it's other way around. you are confusing typical Boot Camp with something else. I don't know what happened to you but just because you had bad experience with one boot camp doesn't mean all boot camps are abusive. Not all Boot Camps do produce result. They have kicked out "troubled teen beyond repair." I don't like to say this but there are some troubled teens who are better off dead because they are far far too damaged to be fix.

Do you not understand that Boot Camp is usually the last resort? Do you not understand that troubled teens are the one with repeated criminal records, drug addictions, and have gone thru many therapists/psychologists/professionals for years? Nothing works. They all have one same symptom - they do not respect the authority. You ask me what authority. First - their parents. Second - the law. Third - the professionals (teachers, therapists, etc.)

Please do tell me what do you propose for that kind of troubled teens?
 
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